Anyone want to back my thoughts on this???

xsavier

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2012-09-01_16-28-44_441.jpg Ok so if you see the leaves in the picture, You will see that they are withering (sp?), or curling/foling inward. Just off of sight with no details anyone want to give this a shot. I know everyone will have questions as to what nutes, light, feed schedule, last watered date, etc. All I want to say right now is they are in soil... So anyone want to throw a comment as to what is going on.
 

xsavier

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WOW, that's nasty dude.
Gotta give details if you want suggestions, not descriptions :)
HAHAHA I know it was a dirty move. I'm the guy that says.... ALWAYS.... I need more info then that to help you out. I just sometimes feel that when people get to much info they go with their gut not their expierence. Usually if someone see a picture and they have went throught the same thing they can say hands down what it is or a few things it could be for sure.

I will give ya more details.

Grow media Amazon Bloom organic soil
Nutes 850ppm using Earth Juice line
Tap water bubbled for days
Ph of nute 7.2
Ph run off 6.0-6.8 I know a little low for soil but I think I got that taken care of will know next watering
Last fed 2 days ago with nute solution
Temp was 88 the last 3 days at the top of the plant due to ac going out just got new one installed lastnight\
Temp at night 70
RH day 37-45 Night 50-55

Anything else you wanna know
 

HeartlandHank

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My guess is you a have a circulation fan blowing a little hard on the area of the plant that has the claw-like leaf. It's really not a big deal.
It happens to the upper growth of plants that are kept very close to the circulation fan.
 

xsavier

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Damn You guys have some awesome replys. This is really kinda a tricky question and I never really see it posted so I wanted to post it and see if anyone else has had this issue. After a few more people throw up a guess or their knowledge fact I will let you know what the problem is.
 

HeartlandHank

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I'm not convinced you know yourself...

I have heard people attribute it to ph fluctuations. I don't know if that was the case in my experiences.

It could also be what they call "N-clawing".

I would think that there is more than just one "issue" that will lead to that symptom. Also, many precursors to your "issue". Let's back it all the way up and just say... "the plant is not seeing optimal growth".

Riddle me this? Good luck.
 

xsavier

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I'm not convinced you know yourself...

I have heard people attribute it to ph fluctuations. I don't know if that was the case in my experiences.

It could also be what they call "N-clawing".

Riddle me this? Good luck. Later.
You are 100% correct. I dont know 100% but I have went throught the regular steps to figure out the issue at hand and believe I have found the issue, but wanted others to give me their thoughts. So let me give you a run down.

This started to happen about roughly 5 days ago..... So Heat stress not so much as it did worsen slightly when the ac crashed in this flower room.
This Flower room holds at this moment 53 flowering girls with 5 different strains inside.
Out of the 5 different strains only one strain is having this issue
What I didnt say was that there is also 2 hydro setups in this room with the same strain that is having the same issue using different nutes.
Everything that is in soil was watered with the same amount of water at the same ph and ppm.

Ok so with this being said what do you think now. Keep in mind I do believe I have figured out the problem but then again Im no GOD to MJ. Im also not always right and you should know that sometimes a second look opens your eyes to something you werent thinking about.
 

xsavier

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Ok well what I believe it to be is a combination of two different things, with everything considering. First off my Fan loosened and fell a little but enough to blow to hard on a few plants. The reason I say that this is one issue is because it is worse in a direct line with the fan. I personally didnt know that my low rate of speed fan would do this to the girls because it starts close to the fan and run a direct line with it and nothing else around it. Also I believe that is a little to much N due to the fact that the leaves are a dark green color ( almost black) and on another girl same strain in the hydro it didnt get the N and is doing fine but not exactly in direct line of the fan but close enough to get the damage as the others.

So heartlandhank the reason I posted this is because I believe that different strains handle different conditions. As to where other strains in the direct line of the fan with the same nutes and same watering schedule only one strain was effected. The other reason is I wasnt aware of the fan creating a leaf problem as so, so I did some research and found it but this is the first time I have seen or heard of it. Again no GOD of the MJ but I do what I can and sometimes I like another pair of eyes incase I missed something or overlooked it.
 

imchucky666

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HAHAHA I know it was a dirty move. I'm the guy that says.... ALWAYS.... I need more info then that to help you out. I just sometimes feel that when people get to much info they go with their gut not their expierence. Usually if someone see a picture and they have went throught the same thing they can say hands down what it is or a few things it could be for sure.

I will give ya more details.

Grow media Amazon Bloom organic soil
Nutes 850ppm using Earth Juice line
Tap water bubbled for days
Ph of nute 7.2
Ph run off 6.0-6.8 I know a little low for soil but I think I got that taken care of will know next watering
Last fed 2 days ago with nute solution
Temp was 88 the last 3 days at the top of the plant due to ac going out just got new one installed lastnight\
Temp at night 70
RH day 37-45 Night 50-55

Anything else you wanna know
RH sounds kinda low to me, and it looks like your temp was a BIT above 88:sad:
 

xsavier

Active Member
Ok.. So anyone that cares I was right on target with a combination of wind burn and to much N. I flushed the girls after a soil test which was showing a surplus of N just in the SSSDH plants and two days after the flush and moving the fan the girls are looking good. So for anyone that has seen the leaves folding in this manner I hope this helps you. Like I said I really havent ran into this problem and never really seen it or most people assume overwatering, I just wanted to share my expierence.
 
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