anyone tell me what caused this?

the leaves on one of my plant are messed up, the main vien stays straight then the sides of the leaves droop you can see it in the below pic, and a shot of some more buds

man do my pics look like crap... my camera takes crappy pics under my hps light

dull1554 said:

the leaves on one of my plant are messed up, the main vien stays straight then the sides of the leaves droop you can see it in the below pic, and a shot of some more buds

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What's your temp & humidity at?

My first thought when I look at them is over-watering. What's your watering schedule?

i water when they need it, its normally every 2-3 days.

they are in grow bags

temp is 78-80 lights on, and 67-72 lights off

humidity is 35% and thats as high as i can get it with my ventilation

Too much Nitrogen looks like that.

and they are all a bit droopy because the lights came on 10 minutes before i took the pics.

i have used hardly any nutes, all plants are starting to show a N deff. the larger lower fans are starting to yellow.

dull1554 said:

i have used hardly any nutes, all plants are starting to show a N deff. the larger lower fans are starting to yellow.

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guess you can cross that off your list then, lol.
(old fan leafs do turn yellow and die, naturally though).

yea im kinda lost...

i dont think its over watering because i use a 16oz cup to water, so all the plants get the same amount, and they are all very similar in size....

i thought maybe heat stress because the effected plant was closer to the light the the others... i raised the light and rearranged the plants and in 2 days it hasnt gotten any better...

the leaves that are affected started at the top of the plant and are slowly progressing downward. and the affected leaves seem slightly dry, not crunchy but not normal either.

frmrboi said:

guess you can cross that off your list then, lol.
(old fan leafs do turn yellow and die, naturally though).

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frmrboi is right, they naturally do that as your plant grows..basically just using its energy and directing it somewhere else. At least thats what i been told. They look a little over watered if you have barely gave them any nutes. Ive never seen over nute do that anyhow. Was youre lights about to turn off so they can sleep? Mine at one point looked like that..everything was kinda drooping and I thought I was going to puke. Then the next day they just perked back up.

Hard to tell with that picture. Have you ever reset your white balance? Most half way decent cameras let you do that. That allows you to take good pictures under an HPS.

that 1st pic looks like it had or has a mite problem. 2nd pic looks like the drop is from lights being off. if your eeing a sighn of a deff.youshould start feeding them.

I had the same problem,i read up on here and found out it was my humidity is too low. Put a bowl of water in there, they should perk up in a day or sooner. Mines did. I hope it helps.

ill check out my camera, ive been using my wifes which doesnt have that setting ($80 camera) i have a cybershot (sony) and i think it does but that gets lines across the pic under that light. and yea i gave them nutes after i took the picture so hopefully that helps.

im rather sure its not mites. i had black flies at the get go but that was from overwatering, i wait for the soil to dry and now i have no flies.

dull1554 said:

ill check out my camera, ive been using my wifes which doesnt have that setting ($80 camera) i have a cybershot (sony) and i think it does but that gets lines across the pic under that light. and yea i gave them nutes after i took the picture so hopefully that helps.

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Those lines are caused by non-digital ballasts.

dull1554 said:

yea im kinda lost...

i dont think its over watering because i use a 16oz cup to water, so all the plants get the same amount, and they are all very similar in size....

i thought maybe heat stress because the effected plant was closer to the light the the others... i raised the light and rearranged the plants and in 2 days it hasnt gotten any better...

the leaves that are affected started at the top of the plant and are slowly progressing downward. and the affected leaves seem slightly dry, not crunchy but not normal either.

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YEah man your right on the money..
Looks like way too much water..
i recommend you get a water meter or just use your
fingers, remember roots need air to breath too.. even if the soil is
a little dry thats ok dont worry, your plants should never be drooping
even when light are off... yeah i use Coco and fox farm soil, my soil planters
are 4 gallons and i only water once a week sometimes longer depending on plant size.
my coco i water more frequently because its hydroponic but i water all by hand i find it easier and
more trust worthy but we all have our methods.. So good luck and keep on growing brother...

well ill cut back and see what happens.

thanks guys for the help, ill be back on later...

EFF WORK!

dull1554 said:

well ill cut back and see what happens.

thanks guys for the help, ill be back on later...

EFF WORK!

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Your humidity is to low bro! Raise it to 45-50% at least! If u water every 2-3 days how can it be over watering?35% humidity is to low!

the clawing is usually too much nutes.