Anyone like ron paul?

Carthoris

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A lot of people love him. If you love him make sure you vote in the Republican primaries for him so he can become the next president. Keep in mind he doesn't support people getting high. What he supports is essentially minding your own business. He thinks people should be able to get high if they want as long as they are willing to be responsible for the outcome. Here is a short video which explains why he supports legalization of marijuana. His support of marijuana is really a support of your right to make choices for yourself. Essentially, he supports freedom. I think if he makes it to being president that he will promptly dismantle the war on drugs. He doesn't need Congress or the House to do so. The president controls the DEA, EPA, ATF, ect ect. Policy changes at department level can make a huge difference in the actual situations in the country without the laws changing. Look at how Obama approached medical marijuana - it is still illegal but they were just deciding to mostly ignore it.

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A lot of people love him. If you love him make sure you vote in the Republican primaries for him so he can become the next president. Keep in mind he doesn't support people getting high. What he supports is essentially minding your own business. He thinks people should be able to get high if they want as long as they are willing to be responsible for the outcome. Here is a short video which explains why he supports legalization of marijuana. His support of marijuana is really a support of your right to make choices for yourself. Essentially, he supports freedom. I think if he makes it to being president that he will promptly dismantle the war on drugs. He doesn't need Congress or the House to do so. The president controls the DEA, EPA, ATF, ect ect. Policy changes at department level can make a huge difference in the actual situations in the country without the laws changing. Look at how Obama approached medical marijuana - it is still illegal but they were just deciding to mostly ignore it.

[video=youtube;EupRuxwuMLE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EupRuxwuMLE&feature=related[/video]
THanks! i will
 

ozman

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Ron Paul ROX he WILL B GETTING MY VOTE.cannabis is not for everybody.He also co sponsored with Barney Frank for HR 2306,support it by writing your state Congressman.


GO RON PAUL GO!!!!!!!
 

spandy

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Yeah, with Ron Paul there is no question about what his stance on the drug war and how quickly he will end it all.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
 

Carthoris

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Yeah, with Ron Paul there is no question about what his stance on the drug war and how quickly he will end it all.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
He never minces words about what he will do. If there is any question that you have about Ron Paul then ask it this way "What does the constitution say about (insert your question here)" That will give you Ron Paul's answer. One time, when I was just starting to hear about him and I was insanely impressed by his honesty. I saw that he did not support abortion. I, being a Libertarian, could not accept that at first as in line with what I believed. Then I looked at his answers about his views on abortion. He would leave it to states to decide about abortion. The reason he does not support it is because he feels that once a baby is a baby it is murder to abort it. He said he watched an abortion when he was in med school and they cut the baby out and left it to die in a bucket. A fully formed baby that could of lived. He delivers babies for a living. He is a doctor, he would get sued if he accidentally killed the same baby doing the wrong thing. How can it be ok to kill it if someone wants it killed? They abort babies all the time that could very well live even if delivered right then. It depends on your beliefs on what a baby is I guess.
 

stumps

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I like most of what he says. But not enough people want to see the USA stop being a hand out state. At this point he'll get maybe 25% of the vote. Just enough to screw what ever other Rep is running. Then Oh look another Obama in office. As a government the US has had a good run. I don't think it's going to last much longer.
 

dam612

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the ron paul talk on this forum is relentless. someone needs to merge them all into one super ron paul thread.
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Carthoris

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I like most of what he says. But not enough people want to see the USA stop being a hand out state. At this point he'll get maybe 25% of the vote. Just enough to screw what ever other Rep is running. Then Oh look another Obama in office. As a government the US has had a good run. I don't think it's going to last much longer.
All he has to do is get the republican primary win and he goes against Obama. Reps will all vote Ron Paul. Most Independents will vote Ron Paul. Some Democrats will vote Ron Paul. That means Obama sucks against Ron Paul.
 

Carthoris

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Just what ever you do, don't vote for your president based solely on his drug policy.
The reason you think marijuana should be legal is called 'freedom'. Ron Paul thinks the government doesn't have the right to make it illegal to begin with so it is legal by default. Ron Paul is the only person who supports freedom across the board instead of just for the things he likes. That is the difference between him and the rest of the people running.
 

ozman

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The reason you think marijuana should be legal is called 'freedom'. Ron Paul thinks the government doesn't have the right to make it illegal to begin with so it is legal by default. Ron Paul is the only person who supports freedom across the board instead of just for the things he likes. That is the difference between him and the rest of the people running.

And that was my biggest reason for becoming a RON PAUL FAN,I always vote for libertarian even if it means having a split vote,I guess you could say I am for freedom to do as you please as long as it doesnt hurt me.But to vote a straight party line because it is the party hell no I vote for freedom as I always have to bad most ppl vote for a party or a platform or for the free govt handouts.I hate handouts.I would rather starve then have the govt tell me how I can live and what I can do and CANT DO.Since I vote libertarian at least I can vote with a clean and clear mind with no regrets even if it does mean a split vote,or my candidate doesnt win at least I have clean and free mind who I voted for with no regrets.
Oh yea how is that HOPE AND CHANGE working for all those supporters?Are you happy with the hope and change????I Hope you can Stand the Change.I dont like the change that has happened I am HOPING it will change back to the USA I know and LOVE.I know its a long shot and I dont think it will ever be the country that our forefathers fought and DIED for that created this great country,Do YOU?
I wouldnt vote for somebody I didnt think would be a asset to this country.And OBUMMER isnt it not in my eyes,but hey if thats your cup of tea then welcome to the new NAZI GERMANY,PAPERS PLEASE,hope you like the USSA as it is now.Im voting for change next year but not the kind of change OBUMMER and all his croonies are looking for.ie George Soros et al.After all OBUMMER is just a puppet for his puppetmasters that pull the strings.(All views expressed are my own and have no force in others thoughts or actions)we need a return to the constitution as it was written not as it is interpreted by whoever.Lets keep the govt out of our lives where they belong.
Sorry for the rant ppl but it can be a touchy subject.
My father always told me there is 2 things never too discuss because of the volitility involved,religion and politics and for once I have to agree,but here I think we can discuss these things in a adult manner.
GO RON PAUL GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freedom FIRST everything else will fall into place.

A Libertarian and Freedom LOVER,
 

ozman

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How bout it admins ? can we get a RON PAUL THREAD?????? I will help moderate if needed???
 

stumps

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All he has to do is get the republican primary win and he goes against Obama. Reps will all vote Ron Paul. Most Independents will vote Ron Paul. Some Democrats will vote Ron Paul. That means Obama sucks against Ron Paul.
I hope he does get it. It's a long shot but if he got it he would stand a good chance of winning. But like I said way to many people getting government hand outs for it to ever happen.
 

canndo

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Yeah, with Ron Paul there is no question about what his stance on the drug war and how quickly he will end it all.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
If he is elected (hardly likely) he will not be elected KING but President. We are a nation of laws, including drug laws and he alone could never reverse all of the framework of drug laws in this country. It took senators and representatives and presidents almost a century to establish the current governmental stance on drugs.
 

fishwhistle

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+1 for ron paul,I really dont see any other good choices.He is the ONLY candidate that that seems to have any integrity at all.
 

Carthoris

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If he is elected (hardly likely) he will not be elected KING but President. We are a nation of laws, including drug laws and he alone could never reverse all of the framework of drug laws in this country. It took senators and representatives and presidents almost a century to establish the current governmental stance on drugs.
Mostly incorrect. Jaywalking and speeding are illegal but cops regularly ignore you going 5 miles over the speed limit and I can't say I have ever met someone who told me they got a jaywalking ticket. It is due to department and cop policy more than the law. The president appoints the head of the ATF, DEA, ect ect. He can end the drug war without permission essentially. Obama's DEA treatment of medical marijuana growers initially would be an example of policy vs the law. It being illegal and the DEA doing anything about it are two completely different things. Guns work the same way. The ATF issues letters that are like suggestions of what the law means that have nothing to do with the law at hand. They completely change course on a regular basis depending on who is in charge at the time. The president could simply decide it is a waste of time to look for people getting high and stop it from happening.

The president could also simply end the wars and bring the troops home - he doesn't need permission. Why hasn't any president done these things? They are tools of the parties. Ron Paul isn't. He will do what is right.
 

canndo

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Mostly incorrect. Jaywalking and speeding are illegal but cops regularly ignore you going 5 miles over the speed limit and I can't say I have ever met someone who told me they got a jaywalking ticket. It is due to department and cop policy more than the law. The president appoints the head of the ATF, DEA, ect ect. He can end the drug war without permission essentially. Obama's DEA treatment of medical marijuana growers initially would be an example of policy vs the law. It being illegal and the DEA doing anything about it are two completely different things. Guns work the same way. The ATF issues letters that are like suggestions of what the law means that have nothing to do with the law at hand. They completely change course on a regular basis depending on who is in charge at the time. The president could simply decide it is a waste of time to look for people getting high and stop it from happening.


The president could also simply end the wars and bring the troops home - he doesn't need permission. Why hasn't any president done these things? They are tools of the parties. Ron Paul isn't. He will do what is right.
Firstly, what you are claiming here is called selective enforcement, this is not a particularly Constitutional way of acting. Jay walking is completey different than someone importing two thousand pounds of swag from Mexico. Secondly, the commander in cheif can recall troops at any time, that is entirely different than his dealing with the host of laws surrounding illegal substances. And thirdly, the president has no direct influence on state laws. Someone in Texas may be no longer in danger of the feds but will still spend some serious time in jail over his baggie of plant material.

Now beyond even that, Obama stated that he would not interfere with state's medical pot affairs. We don't know the entire truth but I suspect that his justices are acting at least partialy on their own - who is to say that won't continue to happen?
 
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