Anyone actually know how to grow and know how to answer questions..... HELP!!!!!!!!!!

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truins

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So Ive been on here reaching out for help for a few months now and have gotten nothing....

Almost none of my questions have been answered no one has commented on my plant. I have a list of threads all containing great descriptions of my grow as well as a ton of pictures but no one can seem to ever tell me anything other than CFLS SUCK or get a HPS. I get it CFLS do not have the best output but its what i can afford at this current time.

Now beyond my lighting on a budget can someone please answer some of these questions I have been asking since i joined the site.... here's a link to my old thread containing all the info up to date
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/706721-my-scrog-attempt-1st-grow-3.html
(lots of pictures on page 2)

and here are the questions i have been asking

So no ones really said much about my plant so I'm just going to throw some questions out there if any one can help me out with some answers it'd be great.

Does my plant look healthy?

Why are the leaves around the early flowers curled?

Will the flowers that started early need to be harvested early?

The last question i really ask with intent as the early flowers are getting really frosty but some of the white hairs are starting to amber and i had a few other clones that were just budding and i guess I waited to long and I lost my tester buds if you will. And I don't want to lose any bud off my now only plant specially before I switch to flower it would just suck.....

Please give me some general feed back on how everything looks. Ive got a lot about lighting but Id like to know weather or not I'm doing a good job. There's lots of pictures threw out this post so look threw and feel free to criticize (just please no cfl comments) feel free to let me know if you see any stress.
Or any reason why my girl started to flower early could shadowing cause this?
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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I read your thread.

For one, learn how to tell people the watts of your bulbs. Not the watts they are equivelent to but the actual watts used.

Second, your cfls are too far away. No more than 4-6 inches away, 2-3 inches is ideal.

Third, you haven't mentioned the age of the plant or any of the details that would help us answer your questions.
 
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truins

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Flaming Pie said:
I read your thread.

For one, learn how to tell people the watts of your bulbs. Not the watts they are equivelent to but the actual watts used.

Second, your cfls are too far away. No more than 4-6 inches away, 2-3 inches is ideal.

Third, you haven't mentioned the age of the plant or any of the details that would help us answer your questions.
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I'm running aprox 150-175 actual watts and like 15,000 lumens give or take, the lights have been at all times no more than 6" inches above the tips except for just after i added the screen i let the plant reach up for them as it took off right before i pulled it down and kept hitting the bulbs.

The plant is about 3 months old it started as a clone and took a while to get going after i brought it home, first few weeks it didn't do much at all. About the 3rd or 4th week it started to shoot upward so i did some LST to promote branching. It wasn't till i went away for a week and had someone else water for me that it got really bushy i came back and it had finally started to fill in and get tall, but it was hitting the bulb and I noticed that a lower branch started to flower, I assumed it was caused by shadowing from upper growth? So I had to pull it down to manage it and stop the early flowering so i built my SCROG screen and fit it under the screen carefully. To no avail as the flowers continued to grow so i filled out the screen and flipped to flower.

as for other things i havent said that may be important RT 70-80°F RH jumps around a bit more between 60-80%

What are you feeding them and are the clones rooted?
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Feeding has consisted of a half dose of veg nutes on a 1/2/1 setup (Feed, Flush, Flush, Feed) on a ever other day basis so a week would look like this (Nutes, nothing, ph correct water, nothing, ph correct water, nothing, Nutes)
Flower will be done in the same matter with bloom nutes instead of veg.

It started as a clone and yes i believe at a foot tall and like 3 ft wide both ways it has rooted

well pie, you have shown me that be helpful is fun..............I was gonna say cfls suck


seriously op, what I see are overwatered and under lit plants.
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Thanks I really didn't know CFLS sucked guess i forgot to mention that I've already been told a million times..... as far as over watered I water every other day with out fail when the pot gets light an the lighting seems to be working fairly well now that the tops have reached up
 
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truins

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I will also be adding new pictures as well but no one has spoken on my early flower issue

Why are the leaves around the early flowers curled?

Will the flowers that started early need to be harvested early?
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Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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truins said:
I'm running aprox 150-175 actual watts and like 15,000 lumens give or take, the lights have been at all times no more than 6" inches above the tips except for just after i added the screen i let the plant reach up for them as it took off right before i pulled it down and kept hitting the bulbs.

2-3 inches is best. Check daily.

as for other things i havent said that may be important RT 70-80°F RH jumps around a bit more between 60-80%

Your humidity is too high. For flowering it should be inbetween 30-50%. 60% and above will cause mold which will ruin ALL your bud.

Your temperature is fine.

Feeding has consisted of a half dose of veg nutes on a 1/2/1 setup (Feed, Flush, Flush, Feed) on a ever other day basis so a week would look like this (Nutes, nothing, ph correct water, nothing, ph correct water, nothing, Nutes)
Flower will be done in the same matter with bloom nutes instead of veg.

It started as a clone and yes i believe at a foot tall and like 3 ft wide both ways it has rooted



Thanks I really didn't know CFLS sucked guess

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CFLs do not suck. They are an excellent way to grow small 1-2 ft plants. You just have to be diligent on checking them and surrounding the plant with light
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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A plant will not start flowering due to shadows.

If the plant was cloned for you while the mother was flowering, then the clone will take a while to revert back to veg cycle.
 
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truins

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Your humidity is too high. For flowering it should be inbetween 30-50%. 60% and above will cause mold which will ruin ALL your bud.

Your temperature is fine.
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I think my hydrometer is broken it feels way to dry for such high readings i took it out and noticed a crack so I guess it got bumped I'll update on rh when i get a new one prolly gonna go digital save the hassle

Here's today's picture update I flipped to 12/12 Yesterday so today was day 1 of flower any comments are helpful,
I got some good shots of the early flowers and if someone could let me know whats gonna happen with them?
Will they need to be harvested early or will they just grow larger?

BIG EARLY FLOWER.jpgbirds eye view.jpgEARLY FLOWER.jpgearly flower 2.jpgflower patch.jpgIMG_20130831_225948.jpgMORE BUDS.jpgSCROG.jpgSCROGED.jpgthe SCROG.jpg
 
Malevolence

Malevolence

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I haven't had a chance to read your thread or anything but you might be growing lowryders which will autoflower on you regardless of photoperiod. Sorry if this has already been covered.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Is pic #1 a pic of the flowers that were already on the clone?

I am seeing alot of one and three finger leaves on top of plants in the group photo. Your plant was just starting to reveg.

I am not sure what will happen to the early flowers to be honest. If you had vegged longer on 18/6, new veg growth would of started there.
 
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truins

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Malevolence said:
I haven't had a chance to read your thread or anything but you might be growing lowryders which will autoflower on you regardless of photoperiod. Sorry if this has already been covered.
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the clone came off a 8 ft mother notsure if it could turn lowrider or not but i believe its a reviar pravada OG#18

Is pic #1 a pic of the flowers that were already on the clone?

I am seeing alot of one and three finger leaves on top of plants in the group photo. Your plant was just starting to reveg.

I am not sure what will happen to the early flowers to be honest. If you had vegged longer on 18/6, new veg growth would of started there.
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Those flowers in picture one were small pre-flowers when I got the clone it started to re veg then out of the blue those little pre flowers started to swell as if they were in full flower. I'm puzzled as to the cause as I assume if stress caused early flower the whole plant would flower would it not?

And as for the 1 and 3 blade leafs I'm thinking its just a bad pheno type I've spoken to the person who provides my clones. I spoke about cfls as I first thought the light was too low intensity to promote 5 bladed leaves. But he then told me that since he got this strain he hasn't been able to get a 5 bladed fan leaf and he was running the same strain under 600w HID lighting.
 
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