Any NHL fans in here?

st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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As a previous Season ticket holder there for 12 years what is strong is fan support and that is what matters most of the NHL teams based there ideas threw how oilers managed to win cups with low pay players back in the day.. at the end of the day every game has been sold out for past 20 years when they are a competitive team there one of the loudest in all of NHL arenas
Shit you should google the state of the art Arena being built right now for the Oilers
one also has to realize the the oilers owner is top 10 richest owners of all NHL teams he could very well buy a cup if he wanted to i mean sign up some what ever free agents 10 million for one year lol just saying 606.5 million arena lol
the detriot arena was 400 million lol the Arena is going to be insane
 
torontoke

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I think the nhl draft lotto is a scam.
No way the oilers could be that lucky that often. Its the only thing thats kept that team in edmonton
 
Darth Vapour

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sad thing is oilers will never leave Edmonton funny how owners threaten that they will move there team when in fact there in a franchise and The NHL only has the means of moving a team

not saying a owner can pull his team out but again who knows maybe fines would come of it
 
st0wandgrow

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Darth Vapour said:
As a previous Season ticket holder there for 12 years what is strong is fan support and that is what matters most of the NHL teams based there ideas threw how oilers managed to win cups with low pay players back in the day.. at the end of the day every game has been sold out for past 20 years when they are a competitive team there one of the loudest in all of NHL arenas
Shit you should google the state of the art Arena being built right now for the Oilers
one also has to realize the the oilers owner is top 10 richest owners of all NHL teams he could very well buy a cup if he wanted to i mean sign up some what ever free agents 10 million for one year lol just saying 606.5 million arena lol
the detriot arena was 400 million lol the Arena is going to be insane
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Can't buy a team with a salary cap league.

Detroit has a similar problem. Not many free agents want to come here. The city is a shithole. Back before the cap they could out spend other teams and bring in guys like Brett Hull And Luc Robitaille. Can't do that anymore. Older players, especially ones that have already won a cup, want to play in warmer climates, or nicer cities. Don't forget about the tax ramifications of playing in Canada too. Hundreds of thousands of dollars left on the table if you sign in Edmonton as opposed to somewhere like Tamp Bay.
 
torontoke

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st0wandgrow said:
Can't buy a team with a salary cap league.

Detroit has a similar problem. Not many free agents want to come here. The city is a shithole. Back before the cap they could out spend other teams and bring in guys like Brett Hull And Luc Robitaille. Can't do that anymore. Older players, especially ones that have already won a cup, want to play in warmer climates, or nicer cities. Don't forget about the tax ramifications of playing in Canada too. Hundreds of thousands of dollars left on the table if you sign in Edmonton as opposed to somewhere like Tamp Bay.
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I couldnt disagree more about the tax dollars bro.
I hear the same argument here in toronto.
The players pay more tax and the borders a bitch but they also walk around like gods dont have to pay for a meal and have endorsements out the ass.
It more than makes up for the tax revenue.
Most guys that stuck with hockey long enough to make it to the nhl are ego maniacs but once they get the big contract and the hot hockey wife its wind down time and then its nicest climate for sex outdoors lol
Least that would be my thought process lol
 
st0wandgrow

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torontoke said:
I couldnt disagree more about the tax dollars bro.
I hear the same argument here in toronto.
The players pay more tax and the borders a bitch but they also walk around like gods dont have to pay for a meal and have endorsements out the ass.
It more than makes up for the tax revenue.
Most guys that stuck with hockey long enough to make it to the nhl are ego maniacs but once they get the big contract and the hot hockey wife its wind down time and then its nicest climate for sex outdoors lol
Least that would be my thought process lol
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Toronto and Montreal? Sure. Those cities and teams have other things to offer. But do you think players are lining up to play in Edmonton and Winnepeg? Terrible teams, brutal weather, small unappealing cities, and a higher tax rate. Players take all of that in to consideration when they hit free agency.
 
torontoke

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st0wandgrow said:
Toronto and Montreal? Sure. Those cities and teams have other things to offer. But do you think players are lining up to play in Edmonton and Winnepeg? Terrible teams, brutal weather, small unappealing cities, and a higher tax rate. Players take all of that in to consideration when they hit free agency.
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Im not saying they would want to play in edmonton or winnipeg just that the endorsement money in any canadian city is worth more than what they lose in taxes.
Those cities will always have an unfair disadvantage because the weather does suck that bad.
I could have played in the ohl but didnt want to go to sault st marie so believe me i understand a player wanting to be somewhere.
In hindsight it was a huge mistake but if i was married to elisha cuthbert id rather live in la than toronto too.
Just so she had to wear a bikini more often lol
 
Darth Vapour

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I will be straight up with you guys i played Hockey got scouted by a WHL team ,, @ 14 years old won two Allen cup rings and a gold metal ..
Was carded pro player even signed a pro contract yet never played a pro game ( NHL) was cool skating in a blue jersey And B carded player with pro players but again never even had a chance to suit up as a pro or even be a bench warmer its political.. Least i got close just wanted few games if any to say i was there look .. Anyways got payed to play again nothing like the big boys
Although you are right in a sense when it comes to income tax some places are not good to play many people tend to think its cause players want warm weather or California living ?? most players drafted come from fairly harsh climates CANADA RUSSIA etc what players actually look at is TAXES for instance Montreal you pay 53 percent tax Vancouver your in the 44 percent tax
Numbers do not lie players take a hit playing in some jurisdictions
Obviously, there are other factors at play besides taxes, but the fact remains that disparities in tax rates leave some teams at a major disadvantage.”

Calgary and Edmonton took the top spot in 2014, up from fifth place in 2012. Florida, Tampa Bay, Dallas and Nashville fell from the top spot in 2012 to third best locations in 2014 to play from an income tax standpoint. Winnipeg came in at the number 12 spot, while Ottawa and Toronto both ranked 18th. Montreal was dead last at the number 30 spot.

While there is a salary cap in place, income tax differences mean that some locations have a distinct advantage over others. Edmonton and Calgary’s “true cap” (after income taxes) is a league high of $39.6 million, Vancouver at $35.4 million, Winnipeg at $34.8
 
Darth Vapour

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So at a player stand point Edmonton / Calgary might not be so bad of a place to play considering if you have to pay 44 percent or higher else where for that 2 million dollar a year income over next 5 year contract ?? not including endorsements player performance incentives
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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??? 5 year contract you made total of 10 million yet almost half you never see compared to someone making same amount else where that sees 3/4 of it ??
 
torontoke

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I think we would see alot more players flocking to those teams in tax free states if tax money was their main motivator.
And i for one dont want those players anyway.
 
torontoke

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I played for the toronto red wings and the young nationals. First started really competitive hockey with the toronto aeros an eon ago lol
When my body isnt acting up i still go play outdoor here and there to spank the kids.
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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Well in my time it was Size that mattered if you were not 195 - 230 pounds they wouldn't even look at you..
Today's Hockey is fast average life span of a NHL'r is no more then 5 years there are thousands that play 1 game and never to be seen again ..
I do not condemn a player looking out for his interests being its so much faster hockey concussions and knee injuries are at all time high the days of 10 - 20 year veterans players are over
I personally think they should have max 4 years any player and forced to retire allowing the money to flow more freely as well i also do not think a player should be payed anything more then 1 million a year if you cannot walk away after 4 years with over 2 million saved and retire or move onto something else something is wrong
1st year NHL 500,000
2nd year 1 mill
3rd 1 mill
4th 1 mill
with also a small NHL pension
 
Darth Vapour

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this will also allow ticket sales to lower and allow less fortunate families a chance to go to a game everyone wins
 
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