Another shooting in a Maryland Mall

canndo

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Only this time, for me it was a little different. My daughter works there and was 30 feet away from the entire incident. She saw bodies of people shot through the head up close.


She is pretty upset. I read the comments on the article and they are the same crap. "another gun free zone", "if law abiding people had guns this wouoldn't happen" and all the rest of the gibberish that those who are not directly affected but think that any gun control equates to confiscation. Of course those folks conveniently ignore reality in favor of their distorted views and logic.


I'm not saying that guns should be confiscated, you know my stand on posession but seriously, this is getting old, and the gun wackos idiotic commenst (as those that will surely follow shortly) are out what ever might pass for reality.

It isn't the guns - I don't remember these shootings as a boy, when I could get a firearm, no questions asked at an early age - it is something else but we should certainly try to find out what it is.


How free can you really be if you feel the need to carry a firearm around with you for protection, and how free are you when you may well be shot by some citizen for throwing popcorn, or watching a movie, or shopping for furniture in a mall?

This is yet another form of tyranny through fear that the right fails to address in their all out hatred of government.
 

canndo

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I think the saddest part of all is that I saw the breaking news headline and thought - oh well, another shooting, looks like only three people, i won't even bother to read the article.
 

BigNBushy

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I feel sorry for your daughter, the fact that she has been so sheltered that the sight of a dead body is bothersome to her.

Death is reality, and people get dead quite often. Sad but true.

You did a poor job making her into an adult if she seriously has issues with this for more than a little while.

I've been shot at and seen someone I would call a friend shot. He lived, but I've seen my share of dead people too. Get over it, shit happens, move on.
 

schuylaar

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I think the saddest part of all is that I saw the breaking news headline and thought - oh well, another shooting, looks like only three people, i won't even bother to read the article.
that is EXACTLY what i thought..what have we become?:cry:
 

bass1014

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the issue is the punk kids that have no kind of home training and think they have no rules and can't be touched.. i lived in memphis tn and got married in the mall of murder..lol thats the nick name for it.. its sad to hear about innocent bystanders having that image fused in there brains at any age is just a shitty situation.. malls are just a hold up for punk kids to cause trouble.. there should be metal detectors at every entrance and armed cops kicking any people loitering . then we might be able to shop in peace..
 

schuylaar

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my second thought?..thank god i shop online, thank god i work in a secured medical pavillion at school, thank god i have netflix and VOD.

WTF is wrong with this picture?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Only this time, for me it was a little different. My daughter works there and was 30 feet away from the entire incident. She saw bodies of people shot through the head up close.


She is pretty upset. I read the comments on the article and they are the same crap. "another gun free zone", "if law abiding people had guns this wouoldn't happen" and all the rest of the gibberish that those who are not directly affected but think that any gun control equates to confiscation. Of course those folks conveniently ignore reality in favor of their distorted views and logic.


I'm not saying that guns should be confiscated, you know my stand on posession but seriously, this is getting old, and the gun wackos idiotic commenst (as those that will surely follow shortly) are out what ever might pass for reality.

It isn't the guns - I don't remember these shootings as a boy, when I could get a firearm, no questions asked at an early age - it is something else but we should certainly try to find out what it is.


How free can you really be if you feel the need to carry a firearm around with you for protection, and how free are you when you may well be shot by some citizen for throwing popcorn, or watching a movie, or shopping for furniture in a mall?

This is yet another form of tyranny through fear that the right fails to address in their all out hatred of government.
I think a big part of the problem is the polarization of the firearm. One side wishes to demonize it. I remember the 80s and 90s when every story about violence and mayhem, regardless of modality, used a handgun as the news-flash icon.

The other side seeks to elevate the firearm into the central, indispensable sacrament of liberty.

Both sides are wrong. Imo.
 

pSi007

Active Member
it might be wrong but a caller/witness on CNN said the shooter looked like he was hispanic or middle-eastern. Middle-east? im thinking terrorism?

might be racist but it is what it is.


regarding the gun laws.. I think it is needed that the good-guys have guns if the bad-guys have them illegally. Strict gun laws promote gun violence, look at the stats.

NY, CA, Maryland, Chicago, ect..
 

BigNBushy

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the issue is the punk kids that have no kind of home training and think they have no rules and can't be touched.. i lived in memphis tn and got married in the mall of murder..lol thats the nick name for it.. its sad to hear about innocent bystanders having that image fused in there brains at any age is just a shitty situation.. malls are just a hold up for punk kids to cause trouble.. there should be metal detectors at every entrance and armed cops kicking any people loitering . then we might be able to shop in peace..
Translation: I'm tired of having to look at so many black kids when I go out into public.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
the issue is the punk kids that have no kind of home training and think they have no rules and can't be touched.. i lived in memphis tn and got married in the mall of murder..lol thats the nick name for it.. its sad to hear about innocent bystanders having that image fused in there brains at any age is just a shitty situation.. malls are just a hold up for punk kids to cause trouble.. there should be metal detectors at every entrance and armed cops kicking any people loitering . then we might be able to shop in peace..
i predict TSA-like devices everywhere..see? wayne lapierre is a "job creator" after all:wink:
 

pSi007

Active Member
my argument is that you don't see shit like this happen in FL, TX, AZ, ect.. (except for a guy 40 years ago) These states have super-liberal gun laws and anyone can carry a gun with a class and simple test.


It seems the news is saying 3 ppl are dead and one is the shooter.. Hopefully, someone capped his bitch-ass before he hurt more people. Wouldn't that be funny if a legal gun carrier with a CCW capped the purps ass and saved the world? If the cops can't protect you, who can?
 

canndo

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I feel sorry for your daughter, the fact that she has been so sheltered that the sight of a dead body is bothersome to her.

Death is reality, and people get dead quite often. Sad but true.

You did a poor job making her into an adult if she seriously has issues with this for more than a little while.

I've been shot at and seen someone I would call a friend shot. He lived, but I've seen my share of dead people too. Get over it, shit happens, move on.

My daughter watched my father and my mother die BigNBushy, one a slow and painful one - she was there for their last breaths, she was 12 for the first one, she is not sheltered, it was my decision for her to be there.

Pretty much - Fuck You, you know nothing about my parenting skills. have you taken your children your to a morgue, or better yet - shot someone through the head so your child could comprenend death? Is that what your idea of good parenting is? My daughter has been to the range, has a firm grasp and ability with firearms and understands their potential.

So you have seen dead people, so what, I've seen them too - EN MASS, and it was shocking even for me. The next time you see bits of brain plastered all over a windshield like a burst watermellon, while 6 other dead bodies lay in random on a dark street you tell me you aren't going to have dreams. The next time you see just an arm poking out of the tiny space between the crushed seat of a car after it had been hit by the bus you were on, stepping over the dead driver of that bus in order to climb out of the windshield of the bus tell me you won't remember.


Now, how many kids you got and how have you been such a fine parent as to expose them to this kind of stuff.


I would genuinely love to hear this.
 

EGrower

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the problem isn't the guns. The rate of shootings since the early 1900's hasn't changed much. The thing is back in the day they didn't really cover the shootings in the media so nobody heard about it. Only recently the media has started shouting out all shootings. They do this because they want to strip our right to bear arms.
 

DutchKillsRambo

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my argument is that you don't see shit like this happen in FL, TX, AZ, ect.. (except for a guy 40 years ago) These states have super-liberal gun laws and anyone can carry a gun with a class and simple test.


It seems the news is saying 3 ppl are dead and one is the shooter.. Hopefully, someone capped his bitch-ass before he hurt more people. Wouldn't that be funny if a legal gun carrier with a CCW capped the purps ass and saved the world? If the cops can't protect you, who can?

Gabby Giffords was shot in AZ. There was an armed civilian present and he did nothing.

A few weeks ago a guy shot up 5 people in North Texas.

Ex-cop murdered another movie patron for texting last week in FL.

Any other lies and fallacies you want to address? This shit has little to do with gun control laws. More laws won't prevent these occurrences, nor did past laws cause these spree killings. It's a symptom of something wrong in American culture, what I can't say, but I'd argue it has a lot to do with the media. Mass killing stories sell, so they cover them, and people get the notion that these crimes are on the rise, when their not. You're still more likely to be killed by lightning then in a mass shooting.
 
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