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FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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Good day to all.
Well after reading a number of threads, I decided to stay. Most of the regulars here do know what they are talking about as far as forums are concerend and the threads are great to read...new and old alike.

I reside in Canada and in my neck of the woods there is pot a plenty. However, alot of it is not what I define as AAA Quality and who doesn't like AAA?

So now I am about to set up a nice little grow and produce my own. This is not my first rodeo with raising MJ and I can't wait to get going on the seeds I have ordered and are to arrive in about a weeks time which is fine because I still have to set up a vegetative and flowering room which will be done in a day or less.

I ordered the following cultivars:

- Lemon Kush
- Berry Bomb
- Violator Kush
- Papaya (Mango)
- Pineapple Chunk

Seeing as I have never grown any of these particular cultivars, I was hoping to get some variety specific tips on harvest times, finishing, etc.

Lastly, I have always wanted to do a proper DIY/ build / grow thread from start to finish, pics and all.

Well thats enough steno-diarrhea for now and not to mention that a nice bowl of Master Kush is calling my name.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
Good day to all.
Well after reading a number of threads, I decided to stay. Most of the regulars here do know what they are talking about as far as forums are concerend and the threads are great to read...new and old alike.

I reside in Canada and in my neck of the woods there is pot a plenty. However, alot of it is not what I define as AAA Quality and who doesn't like AAA?

So now I am about to set up a nice little grow and produce my own. This is not my first rodeo with raising MJ and I can't wait to get going on the seeds I have ordered and are to arrive in about a weeks time which is fine because I still have to set up a vegetative and flowering room which will be done in a day or less.

I ordered the following cultivars:

- Lemon Kush
- Berry Bomb
- Violator Kush
- Papaya (Mango)
- Pineapple Chunk

Seeing as I have never grown any of these particular cultivars, I was hoping to get some variety specific tips on harvest times, finishing, etc.

Lastly, I have always wanted to do a proper DIY/ build / grow thread from start to finish, pics and all.

Well thats enough steno-diarrhea for now and not to mention that a nice bowl of Master Kush is calling my name.
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Pineapple Chunk is a big yielder and im pretty sure some people can push the violator kush you can probably get 2 ounces off each plant if they flower at about 1 1/2 to 2 ft tall. I've heard lemon kush has a long flower but i just might be confusing it with super lemon haze. Papaya isn't a huge yielder if you got yours off of nirvana, some say 450 g/sq meter. You can find all the finishing times on the sites you ordered it from but some hybrids may show some recessive traits, making a 9 week flower possible turn out to be an 11 week.

Just get a trich microscope and look at the hairs, they'll turn amber towards the end so try to get 60% amber/40% milky hairs, some people let theirs run until leafs are yellowing and the calyx swell but this might take more time to master with all these different strains. And dont plan on feeding them all the same, some strains may like less nutrients and some need a ton, so if i were you id get some organic nutes so you don't burn them or anything.
 
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tellno1

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I just started growing pineapple chunk myself ... I can tell you they seem to grow fast from seed and they take cool temps well (65 f when dark, 70f with lites). Tight nodes and good branch growth makes me think they will get bushy.

Know exactly what you mean about the abundance of what i would say to be A to AA quality pot around with lots of vareity but .. i due tend to like the AAA myself lol

But I can't help you with the others I'm afraid, maybe I will try a few of the ones you mentioned in due course



happy growin
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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crazyhazey said:
Pineapple Chunk is a big yielder and im pretty sure some people can push the violator kush you can probably get 2 ounces off each plant if they flower at about 1 1/2 to 2 ft tall. I've heard lemon kush has a long flower but i just might be confusing it with super lemon haze. Papaya isn't a huge yielder if you got yours off of nirvana, some say 450 g/sq meter. You can find all the finishing times on the sites you ordered it from but some hybrids may show some recessive traits, making a 9 week flower possible turn out to be an 11 week.

Just get a trich microscope and look at the hairs, they'll turn amber towards the end so try to get 60% amber/40% milky hairs, some people let theirs run until leafs are yellowing and the calyx swell but this might take more time to master with all these different strains. And dont plan on feeding them all the same, some strains may like less nutrients and some need a ton, so if i were you id get some organic nutes so you don't burn them or anything.
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Thanks for all that. I have a background in biology and I have always created living soils for any plants that I grow. I can't wait to experiment with these first strains. I also have in my seed vault some nice Romulan, Juicy Fruit, Willy's Wonder, Shishka Berry, Blueberry, and a few other's that i'm forgetting about right now. These are feminised seeds that I produced via the light poisoning technique. These seeds are going to have to be germinated sooner than later as they are getting around the 5 year mark.

I think i'm going to have a lot to post for the next while.
P.S. Thanks for reminding me to go dig up my loupes:wink:
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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tellno1 said:
I just started growing pineapple chunk myself ... I can tell you they seem to grow fast from seed and they take cool temps well (65 f when dark, 70f with lites). Tight nodes and good branch growth makes me think they will get bushy.

Know exactly what you mean about the abundance of what i would say to be A to AA quality pot around with lots of vareity but .. i due tend to like the AAA myself lol

But I can't help you with the others I'm afraid, maybe I will try a few of the ones you mentioned in due course



happy growin
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I'm planning on imparting as much as possible with my grows so hopefully I will contribute something that you can use.

Grow happy
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
Thanks for all that. I have a background in biology and I have always created living soils for any plants that I grow. I can't wait to experiment with these first strains. I also have in my seed vault some nice Romulan, Juicy Fruit, Willy's Wonder, Shishka Berry, Blueberry, and a few other's that i'm forgetting about right now. These are feminised seeds that I produced via the light poisoning technique. These seeds are going to have to be germinated sooner than later as they are getting around the 5 year mark.

I think i'm going to have a lot to post for the next while.
P.S. Thanks for reminding me to go dig up my loupes:wink:
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Nice ive grown Shiskaberry, some of the best bud ive smoked honestly, and the pheno i got was crossed with with a indica dominant ak strain i was growing, some of the best genetics id say ive gotten my hands on so keep those seeds in a safe place. And i've heard alot about romulan so you've got some nice strains for the future. And have you ever thought about crossing two female strains with the light poisoning technique? I was gonna try to over flower an aurora indica with an ak but it was too sad to watch those nice buds go to waste.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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Also its good you know what to have in your soil, i didn't know what mycorrhyzal was until my 4th grow, thats when i started getting into compost tea and organics. It beats the hell out of measuring mls of chemical nutrients. Ever since ive been composting fruit/fruit juice that have gone bad, and even marmalade, it gives my bud a fresher taste and it pleases every strains needs. Do you use earthworms?
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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crazyhazey said:
Nice ive grown Shiskaberry, some of the best bud ive smoked honestly, and the pheno i got was crossed with with a indica dominant ak strain i was growing, some of the best genetics id say ive gotten my hands on so keep those seeds in a safe place. And i've heard alot about romulan so you've got some nice strains for the future. And have you ever thought about crossing two female strains with the light poisoning technique? I was gonna try to over flower an aurora indica with an ak but it was too sad to watch those nice buds go to waste.
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You know I haven't tried that as my main purpose of propagating seeds at that time was to preserve the genetics that I had at the time. Now that you mentiom it, that is going to be one of my new projects once I have familiarised myself with the new cultivars that I will recieve soon. I know for sure that my Shishkaberry's genotype goes back at least 15 years and it would be interesting to see what the newer Cannabis var. could offer and add or vice versa.

That's what I love about this, Cannabis husbandry is not just about the breeding, it is also being part chef as you have to imagine with your taste memory sense to figure out what a cross of two plants will wind up tasting and affecting you.

Exceptional pot is something that can only be acheived by way of doing. Too me it's neat to be able to take a flavour created in my mind and manifest it in the end result (the pot).
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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crazyhazey said:
Also its good you know what to have in your soil, i didn't know what mycorrhyzal was until my 4th grow, thats when i started getting into compost tea and organics. It beats the hell out of measuring mls of chemical nutrients. Ever since ive been composting fruit/fruit juice that have gone bad, and even marmalade, it gives my bud a fresher taste and it pleases every strains needs. Do you use earthworms?
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It is neat how fungi and plants are symbiotic and to understand how that relashionship between the two work is to eliminate the need for any type of chemically produced nutrients. I sometimes muse at the thought of smoking kitchen trimmings that make up my composts. I use leaves from the decidous trees that fall every fall to make up a high nitrogen compost which also has plenty of mycorrhiza and annelids throughout.
From this base compost, I use other additives such as bone meal, kelp extract, blood meal, glacial rock dust *Side note*: the Glacial rock dust is food which is steroid like for the mycorrhiza to which inturn creates a super boost to the feeding delivery system of the plant's roots and the mycorrhiza and in return, gives a super vigorous and robust growth.

I could go on for hours on this.
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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To add on, I take my compost and additive mix, with the exception of the rock dust as it is mixed with the bulk peat mix, and brew some yummy tea(s) for all my plants (not just MJ) and yes, I do sift out my worms before I brew.

I also run fish tanks and I use the water from their tanks so not only am I providing a 'second to none' nutrient system for the plants but I am also recycling alot of material not to mention the money I make selling surplus compost...it's almost sinfull :fire:
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
You know I haven't tried that as my main purpose of propagating seeds at that time was to preserve the genetics that I had at the time. Now that you mentiom it, that is going to be one of my new projects once I have familiarised myself with the new cultivars that I will recieve soon. I know for sure that my Shishkaberry's genotype goes back at least 15 years and it would be interesting to see what the newer Cannabis var. could offer and add or vice versa.

That's what I love about this, Cannabis husbandry is not just about the breeding, it is also being part chef as you have to imagine with your taste memory sense to figure out what a cross of two plants will wind up tasting and affecting you.

Exceptional pot is something that can only be acheived by way of doing. Too me it's neat to be able to take a flavour created in my mind and manifest it in the end result (the pot).
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Nice, ive got some crazy crosses in mind whenever i get a few more strains, maybe white rhino and blackjack? seems like a good mix to me.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
It is neat how fungi and plants are symbiotic and to understand how that relashionship between the two work is to eliminate the need for any type of chemically produced nutrients. I sometimes muse at the thought of smoking kitchen trimmings that make up my composts. I use leaves from the decidous trees that fall every fall to make up a high nitrogen compost which also has plenty of mycorrhiza and annelids throughout.
From this base compost, I use other additives such as bone meal, kelp extract, blood meal, glacial rock dust *Side note*: the Glacial rock dust is food which is steroid like for the mycorrhiza to which inturn creates a super boost to the feeding delivery system of the plant's roots and the mycorrhiza and in return, gives a super vigorous and robust growth.

I could go on for hours on this.
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These are all great, compost fruit for that potassium and phosphorus load if you want some nice flowering compost and id get some bat guano to put in the mix. And nice, i gotta get my hands on some of that. And i want to get my turtles back, i use to use their water and the plants loved it, great food for microbes too.
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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crazyhazey said:
These are all great, compost fruit for that potassium and phosphorus load if you want some nice flowering compost and id get some bat guano to put in the mix. And nice, i gotta get my hands on some of that. And i want to get my turtles back, i use to use their water and the plants loved it, great food for microbes too.
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It's funny you say that because for years people have marveled at my orange smelling compost. A local grocery store has a citrus juicer and is more than happy to give it to me. I use only the oranges as a starter for a new heap and mix with dry leaves, some lawn clippings and kitchen trimmings and in 2 1/2 to 3 months you have black gold that smells like orange and like you mentioned, that imparts into the final taste of the product as well. This is something few people ever get to enjoy. Your lucky with all the citrus choices available to you.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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Composted leafs are great but i try not to give anymore nitrogen in the flowering phase since there plenty stored in your soil, and yeah compost can make the smoke taste more fresh, especially out of a vaporizer.
 
dannyboy602

dannyboy602

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FR33MASON said:
Thanks for all that. I have a background in biology and I have always created living soils for any plants that I grow. I can't wait to experiment with these first strains. I also have in my seed vault some nice Romulan, Juicy Fruit, Willy's Wonder, Shishka Berry, Blueberry, and a few other's that i'm forgetting about right now. These are feminised seeds that I produced via the light poisoning technique. These seeds are going to have to be germinated sooner than later as they are getting around the 5 year mark.

I think i'm going to have a lot to post for the next while.
P.S. Thanks for reminding me to go dig up my loupes:wink:
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Hi there:) I think it's cool that you have a biology background. It will give you a better understanding of the importance of rich, fertile soil. Plants are only in their pots for a few months. I think if you start with a fertile mix you hardly need to fertilize at all during the grow. It works for me. I could share my soil recipe if you like, just pm me. It's chock full of minerals that don't burn unlike most salt based fertilizers. well, good luck on your grow.
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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Thanks for the welcomes, suggestions, tips, etc. This forum now has a homey feel to it so thankyou too all.
Now I'm going to start my grow thread today with pics and all and get some feedback to which I am prepared for the good, the bad, and the ugly....

I was going through my seed vault last night and come across a strain I developed about 18 years ago. It isn't an extremely potent cultivar but it is a rather unique looking plant in which it has (15) segments to the leaves instead of the usual (7) segments and the foliage is pure red.
I have no idea what to call this strain so when I grow one, I might have to start a thread devoted to naming this strain once and for all plus all the potential hybrids that one could create.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
Thanks for the welcomes, suggestions, tips, etc. This forum now has a homey feel to it so thankyou too all.
Now I'm going to start my grow thread today with pics and all and get some feedback to which I am prepared for the good, the bad, and the ugly....

I was going through my seed vault last night and come across a strain I developed about 18 years ago. It isn't an extremely potent cultivar but it is a rather unique looking plant in which it has (15) segments to the leaves instead of the usual (7) segments and the foliage is pure red.
I have no idea what to call this strain so when I grow one, I might have to start a thread devoted to naming this strain once and for all plus all the potential hybrids that one could create.
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Ive heard of some strains like that, one on dr chronic called berry ryder but its an auto, and ive seen reserva privida's headband or sour kush since its og and sour diesel(real headband supposedly is to have og x master kush x sour diesel in its genetics). those strains get some pretty color when it gets cold out so you should expect some nice resinous buds if you let them sit outsise for a chilly night or maybe during the day when its in the low 60's or high 50's so you dont stress the growth any more than you have to.
but id be glad to see some pics and give you any pointers if you need them, it seems like you have a pretty extensive knowledge of microbes and nutrients so you probably wont have a problem.
 
FR33MASON

FR33MASON

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There is no joy in growing without sharing...at least for me anyways.
I always apreciate suggestions and tips though. I still find out new things every day and love doing so.
 
crazyhazey

crazyhazey

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FR33MASON said:
There is no joy in growing without sharing...at least for me anyways.
I always apreciate suggestions and tips though. I still find out new things every day and love doing so.
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i completely agree with you, i feel like the maker of riu wanted to make a place where we can talk about our plants as if we all know each other. and im always glad to help a fellow grower, when i joined this site people helped me so i feel somewhat obligated to pass on any knowledge i can. but yes, i also often find out about some crazy stuff i had no idea about, thats why growing is so addicting to me.
 
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