Annual Fees doubling...

mcpurple said:

sorry but yes i do. and in no post did i say i am better then any one at any thing now did i?
and ya you are ripping them off if your selling to your patients, its just like the shity clubs. eventually they all get brought down you know?

i get meds free all year every year, Why/ because i find growers who care about the patient and are not in it for all the money like almost every grower is.
and fuck myself? no no. it sounds like your patients fucked them selfs choosing you as a grower.

i just found it funny and very sad to here you are going to charge your patients more do to a 100 dollar a year increase you DUSH. i mean come on man are you that fucking cheap and a rip off? 100 bucks a year is about 8 bucks a month. if you cant come up with that at work then shit take back some cans haha, stop ripping your patients off. i wish i knew your patients so i could point them in the direction of a REAL compassionat growers

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Didn't realize that you were just a pan-handling mooch. "Spare Change Bra?" If you can't afford your medicine maybe you should get some insurance and hit a pharmacy for pills. I donate way too much of my time to also donate my money. Right, it's 8 bucks and my patiences can afford it without crying foul or accuse someone of ripping them of. Looks like 8 bucks a month would break your bank. That sucks.

Sorry for the people you mooch off of everyday. I bet they fucking hate it.

and it's official, increased rates will go into effect july 2011.

like i said in another thread, if the state has no problem making money off patients, why should i?

i'll double my rate for good measure.

u guys are all fucked.....why do it if it puts me in the hole.... id charge them a lil bit too....nothin is free and takes time and effort to do...if im payin 200 a year just for the card they can expect a lil too...or id have to deal on the side to cover it.....and we all no that is a no no

since the state is doubling fees, it doesn't seem like they have a problem making money from patients. so why should i?

UncleBuck said:

since the state is doubling fees, it doesn't seem like they have a problem making money from patients. so why should i?

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So basically you have screwed up morals and that doesn't bother you? Hell, you should go and get a job in a big pharmaceutics company It would suit you perfectly.

UncleBuck said:

since the state is doubling fees, it doesn't seem like they have a problem making money from patients. so why should i?

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Them raising these fees sucks, but I agree with your point. The state is basically saying it is ok to make money off of the patients, so why not have dispensaries or overall legalization? The FACT IS, that our program ALREADY pays for itself, and then some.....totally self funded by our patients' 100 dollar fee per yer. So, you are totally right, the State is now taking advantage of the program, and making money off the patients.......A PROFIT which is being distributed to other programs, not ours.

If folks do not see this as a GREEN LIGHT for dispensaries or complete legalization, I will be supremely disappointed in our ability to reason as a society. If we do not think it is ok to profit off of patients, we should not let the state do it. Or big pharmaceutical companies, for that matter.

Climbing down off of my soap box now......haha. Hope everyone is well!

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So basically you have screwed up morals and that doesn't bother you? Hell, you should go and get a job in a big pharmaceutics company It would suit you perfectly.

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i thought oregon was located in the northwest united states, not in england.

and do you think everyone in the ommp is suffering from cancer on their deathbed? many are just people who exaggerated an injury to get legal.

did i really get far enough under your skin in the other thread that you followed me here?

UncleBuck said:

i thought oregon was located in the northwest united states, not in england.

and do you think everyone in the ommp is suffering from cancer on their deathbed? many are just people who exaggerated an injury to get legal.

did i really get far enough under your skin in the other thread that you followed me here?

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No, i happen to be subscribed to both, sorry to ruin your illusion of grandeur. Please don't take anything to heart though, i'm an idealist, i do not believe that someone should be taxed in order to use medicine let alone buy it. It's like getting cancer and then having to pay for a license that will allow you to undertake chemo sessions, no, you're ill, my morals say that i do whatever i can to help them within reason, if they're happy to pay that's one thing but it should not be a requirement.

So the measly patient grabs an ounce from you. What happens to all the other product?

"Oh, I smoke my share of it (probably the other ten ounces or so left over from just 1 patient).

"Oh, I donate some to sick people."

"Oh, I'm full of bullshit."

I'm going with the last one. MMJ activists before you were born were championing getting the ganj to people that would benefit from it. The patients and activists were the ones who got everyone the card. Nothing like tard growers charging the same to patients as they do anybody else.

You ever meet a person who grows for multiple patients? They treat it like a job and use the patients excess amounts to live off of. I say that if you're a grower and treat it like a business then you should burn your ganja card. We don't need you or want you. You're dragging the whole concept of legitimate need based patients using marijuana...and the whole purpose of growers and caregivers.

Go ahead and treat your grow like a business...just don't use the program to hide your illegal activities. How about you guys just go back to being your garden variety dope dealer? At least everyone knew where they stood.

And the influx of clubs has now gone from something that is helping patients to one that is yanking them like your average ganja dealer. In my area, we started with the one on McLoughlin...now we have another opening right next to the Stash. Then I spot another one further north on McLoughlin that is getting ready to open.

$10 gram. I say nobody pay it. I hope all of them close now.

ya well if others would see that not only theri opinion is right maybe we wouldnt.
people like to think that what they say has to be right and every thing else is wrong

hazorazo said:

I will be supremely disappointed in our ability to reason as a society.

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Bad news buddy! Reasoning, understanding, and common sense are not societies strong attributes. So feel fee to be supremely disappointed. I know I sure the hell am! Take care.

Edit: I was going to change fee to free to appear that I can spell correctly, but I think I will leave it fee for the irony!

46&2 said:

Bad news buddy! Reasoning, understanding, and common sense are not societies strong attributes. So feel fee to be supremely disappointed. I know I sure the hell am! Take care.

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Hahaha. We may have to include you in the group to come down and try different meds and bullshit. Trying to get Zild, Luther, Uncle Buck, myself together for a tasting of sorts....

After the first bowl they all taste the same.

And how are we supposed to get home later, have scotty beem us up?

i can be the designated driver.

i take more than a hit or two and i am gone for hours to a world of fantastical paranoid delusion

Luther said:

After the first bowl they all taste the same.

And how are we supposed to get home later, have scotty beem us up?

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In another thread, I had mentioned it, and said we should cab home. You know, like people do after the bars. If you are not into meeting up, I have no problem with it, I just love to share and compare. And we can do this legally by using a cab to get home if we need to. I like to medicate, but I also like to keep my perfect driving record. We are all responsible adults here, and we know our limits.

Or, if you are not into smoking together, at least we can meet up and exchange some meds, and have a laugh over a beer, then drive home. Just would be fun to try everyone's projects out.....especially yours Luther, since this was your first grow in a while.....I think you probably did a darn good job from what I saw on your thread.

UncleBuck said:

and do you think everyone in the ommp is suffering from cancer on their deathbed? many are just people who exaggerated an injury to get legal.

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Ive often wondered if anybody had the balls to say what you wrote & im glad you posted it because thats just about the truest statement on this site.

I read & hear in person every day from people saying they need their medicine,what a fuking joke,most people i see are able body white males under 30 years old here in michigan,and the best part is that they all have bad backs,or adh fukin d,then they have the balls to come in to the co-op i own a percentage of & fuking demand the same price we sell to patients with Cancer,RAMS & AIDS,they allways cry foul saying we are breaking the law with seperate prices,it makes me mad as hell when some 19 year old comes flying in the lot riding a crotch rocket sport bike, then trying to get terminally ill patient prices for his ADHD bullshit,we have had to stop advertising discounts for real diseases because of the back ache crowd & all the sanctmonious bullshit that spews forth out of their mouths.

Most people who take advantage of the mmj laws in any state should be kissing their local growers tip, instead of whining about growers charging patients.

For the people who think ALL patients should smoke for free here are my thoughts & how we treat "patients".

Right from the start we prefered our patients that were turning their grow rights over to us to have a disease listed in the laws requirements,we turned away all prospective patients who fall into the cronic pain catagory unless they supplied the clubs doctor with records doccumenting an ongoing condition that would warrant any doctor to prescribe narcotics for pain,we also rejected all patients using adhd as their qualifier..

The club not accepting back ache fakers & adhd government disability ( welfare) collectors as patients being grown for was a stipulation as to me investing in the club.This will change after my investment has been repaid im guessing.

Until then ALL OF OUR PATIENTS SMOKE FREE OF CHARGE,but we wont grow for back aches or for dummies who's illness is stupidity,every last patient we have has a time limit left to their lives,including my wife,this is why they smoke free,any person calling themselves a patient but has no real illness has no right to demand a damm thing from their grower other than what they agree to with their grower at the onset of negotations.

Me personally,if i had the mind to accept fakers & mush heads as patients the only promise i'd make to them is to set aside their lawfully alloted weight & give them a small discount,free smoke of any weight would be out of the question,there are dozens of newb caregivers on every corner dying for patients at any cost, but if the adhd patient wants meds grown in gardens funded by my sizeable investment,grown with my yrs of experience & assured quality then nothing less than top dollar would be accepted on my end.

Dont like it ? I couldnt care less ! ,feel free to grow yer own or find somebody stupid enough to work their balls off so you can party for free,not on my dime .

Panhead is a good guy.

I once asked him what time it was and he built me a clock.

Luther said:

Panhead is a good guy.

I once asked him what time it was and he built me a clock.

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This made me chuckle.......just what I would expect from Luther!

ive never heard of ANYONE getting a card for adhd. and i really dont think theri has.