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AN sensi a/b vs AN grow/bloom/micro

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by Bashar Assad, Jul 7, 2015.

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    Bashar Assad

    Bashar Assad Member

    I'm a new grower and will be growing two auto amphetamine plants in 5 gallon drip ring systems. I have a question about which nutrients to use. Right now I have bottles of AN grow, bloom and micro. I also just received for free a bottle of AN sensi grow A and grow B. Which is easier for a new comer to use? Should I go with the g/b/m or should I use the sensi a/b grow and buy the sensi a/b bloom? I really don't want to spend more money on nutrients, but if it's really worth it, then maybe…..

    Thanks!
     
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    OG Gardenz

    OG Gardenz Active Member

    i would go with the g/b/m .... then as soon as possible i would move towards the opposite, soluble powders.

    AN is hyped up bulshit! their products are run of the mill at best and the people who own the company are actual scum of the earth!
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    Hey thanks for the unbiased opinion...Have you used them? While i agree they are expensive, and there are other options than can produce the same..they aren't exactly "run of the mill".

    Just because one owner of a company get's accused of child molestation that means the whole company gets a bad reputation?..which if you look at most AN Hate threads is where it comes from. Wish people had that attitude toward shit that mattered, like government..but we'll let them steal, lie, rape, kill..but NOOOO! NOT A NUTE MANUFACTURER!

    OP. good luck getting any unbiased AN info.
     
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    chuck estevez

    chuck estevez Well-Known Member

    jared just got accused of being a chomo, I'm going to stop eating subway sandwiches now, oh wait, I never ate that crap anyways.
     
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    budman111

    budman111 Well-Known Member

    Subway bread is like foam and tastes like shit, Just like McD's, people going their have never had a real amazing tasting flame grilled burger, its all brainwashing advertising just like AN bullshit.
     
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    Bashar Assad

    Bashar Assad Member

    I think I'll just go with the G/B/M 3 part instead of the A/B. Another question is a pH balanced root formula of nutrients/hormones for seedlings worth it? Also is something that protects the plants from root rot and promotes root growth a good investment?
     
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    OG Gardenz

    OG Gardenz Active Member

    i am simply speaking of awareness!

    be it the nutrients you use or the kind of dog food you buy... it still boils down to being aware of the things we bring into our lives!

    if you want to use overpriced biostimulants and nutrient salts masked behind a bottle of bulshit, be my guest. :clap::wall:
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    Until i hear some factual info as to why its "bullshit", I'm still going to say it's a viable product. I have yet to hear anyone refute the product on it's ability to grow anything..it's usually the same tripe you just spit out.."it's bullshit, the owners suck, too much marketing,too expensive, it's all bottle art, etc etc,.", ya know anecdotal personal opinion. I never said it was the best, I've admitted quite a few times it's more expensive than others that can probably do the same thing. Ever hear of cognitive dissonance, i think it happens a lot around here....
     
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    budman111

    budman111 Well-Known Member

    If you cant see past the 'Kushy Kush' and insanely priced and lower than average 'connoisseur' rhetoric bullshit then you need a reality check.
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    That's why I'm trying it..to find out for myself..because all you get from people is exactly what you just said..PERSONAL OPINION.."kushy kush" "lower than average" "connoisseur' rhetoric bullshit"...care to qualify those vague statements? After reading about different nutes over the years I'm pretty much convinced that peoples issue with AN..or any nute manufacturer for that matter..is because they have no clue what they are doing. I've been on AN for about 12 weeks now..for at least 6 weeks now i haven't touched a ph/ppm meter..mix per the bottle and in the res.

    If you read what i wrote, i never defended or praised the company, I even make a point of saying it's expensive...just that It's F'ing annoying that there really nothing out there about it because every..EVERY.... AN thread on ever board turns into a AN hate pissing match.
     
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    Aeroknow

    Aeroknow Well-Known Member

    I'll say what I always say when this comes up: Nothing wrong with AN's bases.
    Just as complete as most any other.
    One thing I noticed when using the sensiA/b, was it needs to be ran at a little lower ppm than most other nutes. For example: floraseries lets say =1.8 EC, sensiAB =1.6 EC.
    If I tried to run the sensiAB at what I run most other bases at, it burns.
     
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    homebrewer

    homebrewer Well-Known Member

    People don't like AN because they are overpriced, over-hyped, watered-down plant foods that perform 'average' at best. Instead of using just nitrate and ammoniacal nitrogen, they put urea and other water soluble nitrogen in their 'premium hydro food'. An educated grower sees past their bullshit, it's as simple as that.

    Feel free to 'test' them all you want so you can determine they are capable of 'working for you'. IMO, your time would be better spent dialing-in a better food with better ingredients and better ratios from a more reputable and trustworthy company.

    http://scienceinhydroponics.com/2010/05/urea-in-hydroponics-positive-or-negative.html
     
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    budman111

    budman111 Well-Known Member

    And how is progress?
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    I can't really say. I had a power loss, overheat and root rot all hit the first week of flower which pretty much F'ed everything. They are plugging along but that really stunted them.
     
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    TBoneJack

    TBoneJack Well-Known Member

    I guess Jared liked to "Eat Fresh", huh?
     
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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    Over priced?? Ha. Have you seen Cana? You have no idea what expensive is.


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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    6 gallons of A&b cost me just over 300.


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    buddy69

    buddy69 New Member

    I would stick with a two part base nute.as far as root rot not sure if your in soil or Hydro but if your in hydro keep water temp bellow 70 degrees if posssble .there is alot of nutes for root promotion. I use them the first few weeks of veg and first few weeks of bloom
     
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    homebrewer

    homebrewer Well-Known Member

    How concentrated is Canna? AN tends to be on the expensive side and it's watery making it twice the ripoff.
     
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    DirtyEyeball696

    DirtyEyeball696 Well-Known Member

    Cmon you seriously believe that. They want almost 300 for 4 liters of boost. I get 23 liters of A&B for a little over 300, add that up. That's all I'm sayin. I spent 5 years looking at different meds at the G3C in flint when this law first past and made a name for myself "Sonny" ask around the G3C. I've made connection to genetics only good people, not greedy people get their hand on
     

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