An Idiot's Guide to Hempy

tsboss1

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What type of bucket did you use and how much does it cost?
I used a plastic box I found at my local hardware store and it was crazy expensive, like $20, but this is Japan and it's expensive here. The ones I use for my mothers were $1 though. Some people make them out of used 2 liter coke bottles.


For that many plants I would recommend putting them all in their own buckets like the guys pic a few posts above. With that many plants it would be awesome if you could drain onto the floor like some people do and not have to worry about collecting it.


After I mix my nutes I first feed the base of every plant for a few seconds and then I try to cover all the surface area. I use one of these to make it easy on me, it cost a few bucks and is batter operated
Ok what do you mean drain it to the floor? are you saying water it and don't cut the hole to collect the run off if doing it in individual buckets? also what is the name of that tool? Do you water first and then feed the plant nutrients? how often do you add the epson salt and how much do you add?

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I understand. I tried to find a video on youtube to explain the process further but couldnt find one
 

Japanfreak

New Member
I mean that a lot of people have a floor that can get wet, if your floor can't get wet then you'll have to put collecting dishes under your buckets. The hole always goes 2 inches up from the bottom.

With my 45 liter tubs I usually have to water/feed once a week. I mix the nutes in the water first and use the syphon pump to water the medium with it. I put a pinch of epsome per gallon with every feeding.
 

Dr.J20

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I'm about to embark on a hempy grow and wanted to thank you for throwing this up...all of the threads about hempy buckets have been quite helpful but none as succinct and clear as yours...thanks japanfreak! I'm gonna be trying out an LED/CFL set-up with a hempy run that i've roughly scheduled to take 16 weeks from sprout to harvest with an interesting twist: what do yall think about taking clones and leaving the clones and the donor plant in the same veg room until all the clones are rooted and the donor has recovered, vegging as long as the clones need to be ready, then throwing everything into 12/12 together? I only ask because I don't have room or the dough for lights for two separate rooms and this is super small personal growing op...The only difference i can see is that the donor will get some extra time to veg which shouldn't hurt anything....I'll also be using this https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/66643-cheap-d-i-y-hempy.html auto-watering system with an air-stone in the res for when i have to go out of town...its a pretty simple set-up and it's worth a look...again thanks all and keep an eye out for my first hempy grow coming soon!
 

OB 1

Active Member
what do yall think about taking clones and leaving the clones and the donor plant in the same veg room until all the clones are rooted and the donor has recovered, vegging as long as the clones need to be ready, then throwing everything into 12/12 together? I only ask because I don't have room or the dough for lights for two separate rooms and this is super small personal growing op...The only difference i can see is that the donor will get some extra time to veg which shouldn't hurt anything....I'll also be using this https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/66643-cheap-d-i-y-hempy.html auto-watering system with an air-stone in the res for when i have to go out of town...its a pretty simple set-up and it's worth a look...again thanks all and keep an eye out for my first hempy grow coming soon!
I'd go ahead and LST the Mom so you can keep the canopy even with the others - you won't have to wait long - she'll recover right into flowering. I've done it.
 

Dr.J20

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I'd go ahead and LST the Mom so you can keep the canopy even with the others - you won't have to wait long - she'll recover right into flowering. I've done it.
Thanks for the tip...i'll go ahead and plan on doing that when the time comes ob1!
Be easy
Dr.J
 

OB 1

Active Member
Thanks for the tip...i'll go ahead and plan on doing that when the time comes ob1!
Be easy
Dr.J
Oh yeah, I forgot to add - when you take the clones, try and leave one node on each branch on the Mom - you'll get a donkey dick from each one.
 

Tee Five

Active Member
The thing Im not 100% clear about is why Ph doesn t play a factor in this style of grow.

And lastly. Could you grow this in a shallower environment...and grow laterally...like in a flood bed. Or is depth the key.
 

Little Tommy

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I am growing hempy using 3 lb coffee cans and it couldn't be simpler. Always looking to try new things. Experimenting with hempy is as easy as falling off a log. I'm Subscribed!
 

Japanfreak

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As far as pH goes, beats the hell out of me why people say pH doesn't matter but that's the claim, I have no idea if anybody actually tested it at different pH points or not. In the 3 years I've been growing with this style I've never tested my pH but I know from before while doing DWC that my tap water is about 7.0 out of the faucet so with my nutes added it should be right around 6.0 anyway. If you already have all the pH shit you may as well balance it, but my advice to people who don't have a pH pen is to try a round without, you might be fine without.

Somebody asked about medium volume as well. People make these buckets from all different volume sized containers, from coke bottles to coffee cans as above and they are all successful, I think it comes down to how long you plan to veg really, if you want medium sized plants I'd aim for about 6 liters or more per plant. Some people do really large plants in 5 gallon buckets.
 

OB 1

Active Member
The thing Im not 100% clear about is why Ph doesn t play a factor in this style of grow.

And lastly. Could you grow this in a shallower environment...and grow laterally...like in a flood bed. Or is depth the key.
As far as pH goes, beats the hell out of me why people say pH doesn't matter but that's the claim, I have no idea if anybody actually tested it at different pH points or not. In the 3 years I've been growing with this style I've never tested my pH but I know from before while doing DWC that my tap water is about 7.0 out of the faucet so with my nutes added it should be right around 6.0 anyway. If you already have all the pH shit you may as well balance it, but my advice to people who don't have a pH pen is to try a round without, you might be fine without.

Somebody asked about medium volume as well. People make these buckets from all different volume sized containers, from coke bottles to coffee cans as above and they are all successful, I think it comes down to how long you plan to veg really, if you want medium sized plants I'd aim for about 6 liters or more per plant. Some people do really large plants in 5 gallon buckets.
That's the great thing about GH nutes - if your tap is decent, you pretty much don't have to worry about PH. I guess that's why some might think pH doesn't matter, when 5.8-6.0 is actually important.

I've been working on incorporating CRFs... but then you have to PH the water to 6.0.
 

tsboss1

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Hey Japan freak what do you think about these pots?

http://cgi.ebay.com/50-x-3-Gallon-GRO-POT-GROW-SMART-container-pots-fabric-/160509883502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f22746e

it says its less heat build up & Unique Design Features FABRIC Material for Maximum Root Zone Aeration!

Also Do you think the thirsty light digital meter will help with knowing when to water the plant? In case you haven't heard of it before its basically a meter that lets you know when the soil is dry but since were using perlite im wondering if it would work the same way. please click on this link to see the full description:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrofarm-Digital-Thirsty-Light-HGTL-/330475204736?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf1db7080

Thank you
 

Japanfreak

New Member
The first link there is something like what people call smart pots. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong but the basic idea there is that the roots hit the side of the pot which is fabric and stop growing and instead branch out so you get a lot of side roots instead of long roots twirling around the pot. Only problem is that water will run right out the bottom. You need a water proof pot. There was one guy at another site who was thinking of using those though by placing them in a bucket and cutting everything above 2 inches out of the bucket. A good place to look for buckets is not in garden centers but in home supplies like a plastic waste basket, you can usually find them for a few bucks.

Before you do it and even for the first cycle reading your plants to know when they want to be feed seems a bit daunting but you'll get the hang of it quickly, if you used a tool like that I think you would just be handicapping yourself. It's much easier than you think.
 

tsboss1

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Yea I was going to buy some regular 3 gallon buckets, I just stumbled across those and wanted to know if these would provide better results.

Thanks again for answering my questions.
 

Little Tommy

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I lift my hempy buckets to determine when to water/feed. It was what I did with soil and with the hempys. If it is super light it is time to top off the res. Once the roots hit the res it works out to water/feed every 6-8 days.
 

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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... The first link there is something like what people call smart pots. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong ...
I thought that "smart pots" were the pots with raised holes all around the walls of the pot - they encourage air-pruning of the roots and let oxygen freely flow through the mix.

Still useless for hempy growing, but different from the woven cloth bags in the link.

This is a link to an Aussie supplier of the "smart pots" that are called "Rocket Pots"

>>>>> LINK <<<<<
 
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