Am i screwed??? In need of some urgent responses.

timbo666

Member
To make a long story short, i have 8 females about 35 days into flower. out of the 8, 7 of them were official feminised seeds from reputable seedbank companies. one of them was a bagseed. the bagseed started looking funny, especially when i started to notice some seed development. i took it out of the room, and studied it under intense lighting and noted that 90% of the actual buds, (which looked great for 4 weeks in, i must say, it also smelled incredibly pungent) also had pollen sacks which looked like a fair amount burst. they were so hard to tell without actually paying close attention. i immediately took it out of its environment.


i started studying the rest of my ladies and thouroughly started searching for seeds. 5/7 started showing signs of seed development, but only in minimal doses, and specific branches. this led to me being very upset, wishing i never dealt with bagseed in the first place, and becoming upset i didn't realize i had a hermie in the room. my question is this : How fucked am i, seed wise? Is it likely that within a few weeks, im going to be bombarded with seeds? they look so amazing @4weeks into flower right now, ultra frosty and delicious, and now im just so upset that i'm going to have to deal with a ridiculous amount of seeds. Can anyone help me decipher how likely it is that im going to have to be dealing with a shitton of seeds? :neutral:
 

TheFuture

Well-Known Member
in the next 2-3 weeks you are going to probably see rapid seed development. Remove plants that have the most seed development and keep them isolated or do what you will, but the carbohydrates that went into those buds are going to be consumed by the production of seeds. Using Dutch Masters Reverse may help you, as I use it when I see the first sign of any "bananas," but to be honest, I dont know what it would do to plants already producing seed.

Really, though, if you produce a bunch of seeds, if the plants they came from are nice, keep the seeds for future use and chock up this as a lesson learned. I always use feminized seeds from Nirvana for my personal grows and have not had a single problem. I simply will not use a questionable seed, and when I have the plant I want, I clone the shit out of it to avoid those problems.
 

timbo666

Member
in the next 2-3 weeks you are going to probably see rapid seed development. Remove plants that have the most seed development and keep them isolated or do what you will, but the carbohydrates that went into those buds are going to be consumed by the production of seeds. Using Dutch Masters Reverse may help you, as I use it when I see the first sign of any "bananas," but to be honest, I dont know what it would do to plants already producing seed.

Really, though, if you produce a bunch of seeds, if the plants they came from are nice, keep the seeds for future use and chock up this as a lesson learned. I always use feminized seeds from Nirvana for my personal grows and have not had a single problem. I simply will not use a questionable seed, and when I have the plant I want, I clone the shit out of it to avoid those problems.



thanks for the response bro. im just so upset i didnt realize i was dealing with a hermie until almost 4 weeks into flowering. my biggest fear is that the rest of my bitches are going to rapidly start putting all their energy into making seeds and im going to be left with a ridiculously seedy bullshit batch. its absolutely heartbreaking :( i guess time will tell. i really hope that since i completely removed the bullshit hermie plant that i might have "Saved" the 7 chunky beautiful females from developing TOO MUCH seeds. but my gut is telling me its far too late and that i have no choice but too wait this out and inevitably deal with a large amount of seedy seedy nuggies :'(
 

timbo666

Member
I had 3 hermi in my last grow. I had a few seeds but it didn't seed the whole crop. match

how far in were the hermies before you noticed? my biggest fear is that i caught them way too late, and that im looking at a ridiculously large amount of seed production on my frosty beautiful nugs :(
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
imo, seeds, while not ideal, are not really that much of a biggie, if you're not selling the bud that is... seeded bud is just as potent as unseeded bud..

it just makes it more of a pain in the ass to break the bud up and get it ready for joints or a bowl as i hate smoking seeds.. taste almost makes me puke.. other then that, who cares about a few seeds imo..
 

timbo666

Member
imo, seeds, while not ideal, are not really that much of a biggie, if you're not selling the bud that is... seeded bud is just as potent as unseeded bud..

it just makes it more of a pain in the ass to break the bud up and get it ready for joints or a bowl as i hate smoking seeds.. taste almost makes me puke.. other then that, who cares about a few seeds imo..



i personally don't give a flying rat's testicle if there's a few seeds here and there throughout my batch, but the main problem that i am concerned about is a MASSIVE quantity due to this bullshit pollination. And whether or not it's a myth that once a female becomes pollinated most of it's energy goes into producing the seeds instead of more trichomes/THC.


I do plan on selling it so it's definitely an issue of how much of a pain of the dick it's going to be plucking out a shitload of seeds. If it's a few, I could care less... but not knowing how bad my batch is going to turn out seed-wise, is slowly killing me on the inside
 

timbo666

Member
i agree with racer, in the end all calaxys are empty seed pods :D

the actual seeds aren't my main concern though. it's a batch of stinky incredible looking nugs, but just JAM PACKED with 20 seeds a nug. I've seen a batch like that years ago, so i know it's possible to deal with that kind of situation. I was mainly trying to get an idea how many seeds i'm going to have to deal with. I guess it's impossible to tell, though. The mere fact that it's been 40 days since i flipped to 12/12 scares me though, I think that hermie did some serious splooging all over my ladies :'(
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i personally don't give a flying rat's testicle if there's a few seeds here and there throughout my batch, but the main problem that i am concerned about is a MASSIVE quantity due to this bullshit pollination. And whether or not it's a myth that once a female becomes pollinated most of it's energy goes into producing the seeds instead of more trichomes/THC.


I do plan on selling it so it's definitely an issue of how much of a pain of the dick it's going to be plucking out a shitload of seeds. If it's a few, I could care less... but not knowing how bad my batch is going to turn out seed-wise, is slowly killing me on the inside
that's a huge myth, and one that is so far from being based on fact it's not even funny imo...

you should be able to get an idea of how badly seeded your bud is by taking a close look at them.. once seeds start to form pretty well, they're pretty easy to spot imo..
 

timbo666

Member
that's a huge myth, and one that is so far from being based on fact it's not even funny imo...

you should be able to get an idea of how badly seeded your bud is by taking a close look at them.. once seeds start to form pretty well, they're pretty easy to spot imo..


they're definitely easy to spot, but won't they keep forming as time goes on? there's only a few visible ones here and there for now. I'm just worried im going to walk in there a few days from now and start spotting more, and more, and more.
 

jackmac

Active Member
they're definitely easy to spot, but won't they keep forming as time goes on? there's only a few visible ones here and there for now. I'm just worried im going to walk in there a few days from now and start spotting more, and more, and more.
You'll find out in a few days then. But think this: every day that goes by and it's still: there's only a few visible ones here and there for now

then you've got away with it...that's my feeling
 

TheFuture

Well-Known Member
Ill agree with racer; If you are not growing for a dispensary it doesnt matter. For your own use it is nice to have sinsemilla but you should have the complete satisfaction that you are growing and smoking your own crop, and if you share with friends and are embarrassed about having seeds, remember creating seeds is the plant's natural response to physiological change, and that those folks didnt grow what youre smoking.

You keep a close eye on the seeds, they will start to increase exponentially. When they get to the density it starts to annoy you, pull em out. In my gut I feel like you have 2 weeks.

TheFuture
 

timbo666

Member
Ill agree with racer; If you are not growing for a dispensary it doesnt matter. For your own use it is nice to have sinsemilla but you should have the complete satisfaction that you are growing and smoking your own crop, and if you share with friends and are embarrassed about having seeds, remember creating seeds is the plant's natural response to physiological change, and that those folks didnt grow what youre smoking.

You keep a close eye on the seeds, they will start to increase exponentially. When they get to the density it starts to annoy you, pull em out. In my gut I feel like you have 2 weeks.

TheFuture



this is where the problem lays, because 90% of the crop is to be sold. roughly 10% will go to the person who helped set the environment, the rest will be chopped up and sold. obviously, if there's a few seeds in each dry well cured stinky nugget - it won't be an issue to the customer. but unfortunately, the anxiety lays within the fact that i may be experiencing vigorous seed growth in the next 4 weeks (they all need atleast another 4 weeks until they're ready to be dry). Nobody is going to pay top dollar for INCREDIBLY seedy nugs.


I've never experienced hermy pollination before, i have no idea how much damage was done at all, or if hermy pollination is as destructive as pure male pollination is. i've never dealt with either circumstance.
 

TheFuture

Well-Known Member
this is where the problem lays, because 90% of the crop is to be sold. roughly 10% will go to the person who helped set the environment, the rest will be chopped up and sold. obviously, if there's a few seeds in each dry well cured stinky nugget - it won't be an issue to the customer. but unfortunately, the anxiety lays within the fact that i may be experiencing vigorous seed growth in the next 4 weeks (they all need atleast another 4 weeks until they're ready to be dry). Nobody is going to pay top dollar for INCREDIBLY seedy nugs.

I've never experienced hermy pollination before, i have no idea how much damage was done at all, or if hermy pollination is as destructive as pure male pollination is. i've never dealt with either circumstance.
My first reaction is rapidly drawing air thru my teeth. With Dutch Masters Saturator and Reverse for the next two weeks only, you might be able to get ...maybe 3-4 applications if you do a 1/2 strength and then 2-3 full dose foliar applications... what you would be trying to do is reverse the hormones as much as possible to cause some kind of retardation of seed development or lag or something before you flush, and I would flush 9 days if I was doing this. I know foliar applications of hormones can start to react in as little as 6 hours, sooner with Saturator/Penetrator.

I do not know the degree to which you need to apply the product for your development, but when I see "bananas," I spray 1/4 to 1/2 diluted recommended rate via cold fogger only, twice a week up to 7 days before flush and have not had any additional development. Even when we had 5 plants herm in a room of 36, we put a kibosh to that within a week.

But while I am thinking of it, always stand there and ponder your plants and smoke some before you make any knee jerk reactions.

TheFuture
 
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