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GFS_Nic said:

Hi,

Ok, i resolve my mistake, it was indeed a wrong wirering. I am now in "series" mode without any soldering. I dont know why i couldn't see it before, you can use the pico molex EZ mate to make it.

Before:
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After:
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It's so simple, it's stupid (like me):
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Thanks a lot for your help guys. I hope i can give back something to the community some day.

Cheers from Belgium.

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You are measuring power input to drivers. Vero power + driver power loss

I use a multimeter that can measure voltage and current at output of driver. Then I multiply voltage and current to get actual power going into vero. Do not worry about multimeter if you not know. I do not want you to short circuit your driver.

Edit: you might be able to connect wattmeter at the output of the driver to get actual watts going into vero. And can also see current and voltage

Hi robincnn,

robincnn said:

Power supply is not matching the load.
HLG-185H-C1050B is for 95v to 190v
This means this power supply is designed to power min 3 vero in series 37*3=111volt or max 5 in series 37*5=185
Note 111 and 185 is within range of 95v to 190v

Any more than 5 in series and any less than 3 in series is out of range for driver specification

Doing 2 is parallel is something I would not recommend.
Can someone more experienced please advise !!!

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Ok, roger that, i think the driver is a bit hot, maybe nothing alarming but pretty hot anyway. Can't it be because of the driver which work out of his range ? Do you think i should wait for my next batch of COBs before using the panel ? I don't want to break my new toys the first week.

Hot could be because driver out of range and operating inefficient.
With that driver min 3 in series. Max 5 in series.I like to go by the specifications.
You might be able to get more advise in
Sticky thread
DiY LEDs - How to Power Them
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-leds-how-to-power-them.801554/page-71#post-11576639

burnt, so to speak. Might be the answer to the closer buds being less frosty?

Currently trying to find the sweet spot for my Behemoth in a small tent lol.

Edit: foxtailing late in flower is a symptom of high canopy temps right?[/QUOTE]

Today is a little warmer. Ambient about 84. Canopy temps were 86-88.

Even though it wasn't the heaviest frost Ive had growing with led this weed (last grow 50% completed under optic vero) smokes super nicely with an authoritative stone, very resiny with an exotic, oriental woods, incensey fragrance. I screwed up my labeling but pretty sure this is Western Winds, a fast lanky lady from a fem seed.

Observe the development over just 5 days in the next pics.

testiclees said:

burnt, so to speak. Might be the answer to the closer buds being less frosty?

Currently trying to find the sweet spot for my Behemoth in a small tent lol.

Edit: foxtailing late in flower is a symptom of high canopy temps right?

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Today is a little warmer. Ambient about 84. Canopy temps were 86-88.

Even though it wasn't the heaviest frost Ive had growing with led this weed (last grow 50% completed under optic vero) smokes super nicely with an authoritative stone, very resiny with an exotic, oriental woods, incensey fragrance. I screwed up my labeling but pretty sure this is Western Winds, a fast lanky lady from a fem seed.View attachment 3416202

Observe the development over just 5 days in the next pics.View attachment 3416203 View attachment 3416204 View attachment 3416205[/QUOTE]

I am exactly 37 days into flower! haha. Right now I am just leaving front of the tent open with a fan blowing into it and it is keeping the canopy temps at a nice 77 degrees. Really want to finish out this run with the full 460 watts going

Just snapped some pics of my day 37 of flower on my phone. This is of my only sativa, looking very sexy with some fat fat colas.



And a full tent shot, five of the girls are in 3 gallon smart pots, the one in the back right corner never got transplanted so its still in a 1 gallon. They stand about 2' tall from the top of the pots.

Hi all,

Just wanna share my first steps with my Vero29s 4000K:

The little girl start her life under two Hans panels for 22 days. I've started blooming with the COBs panel in combination with the Hans.

First day:


After only 6 days:



I really like what i see. i hope she will use the maximum space in the tent.

Peace.

she will ... no question. Looks like ignites the boost any moment.

guys, i have a optic vero 360 illuminaing my 4.5 x 2.5 space it is doing fine. i think i would improve the situation by adding some cobs onto the length. the optic measures 18" x 12" . i am thinking of attaching aluminum angle to the optic extending it to measure 40 x 12". On each side of the optic i'd attach a 12 x 12 heatsink, 1x 200mm fan and with 2 vero 29s. It seems like this design would require that the additional cobs be run @2.1 to match the optic's amperage/intensity. This would give a whole lotta light so im thinking that id run it without reflectors or lenses at a decent height. My space is reflective. Id test it out with a scrog grow.

Does that make sense? I havent made any purchases yet. Still planning and feeling like i dont even know what i dont know.

All suggestions appreciated.

testiclees said:

guys, i have a optic vero 360 illuminaing my 4.5 x 2.5 space it is doing fine. i think i would improve the situation by adding some cobs onto the length. the optic measures 18" x 12" . i am thinking of attaching aluminum angle to the optic extending it to measure 40 x 12". On each side of the optic i'd attach a 12 x 12 heatsink, 1x 200mm fan and with 2 vero 29s. It seems like this design would require that the additional cobs be run @2.1 to match the optic's amperage/intensity. This would give a whole lotta light so im thinking that id run it without reflectors or lenses at a decent height. My space is reflective. Id test it out with a scrog grow.

Does that make sense? I havent made any purchases yet. Still planning and feeling like i dont even know what i dont know.

All suggestions appreciated.

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Be careful! I had a similar situation. Had a middle panel and wanted to add sides to increase the power with Vero29 2.0's. Might be better to go with a string of Vero18's, or 13's even, to help dissipate the heat over the canopy a little better.

Other then that just going a little big on the heatsinks would help a lot. A 12x12 with a 200mm fan would kick ass I'm sure.

I am running 144w of Vero29 on the 5.886" profile at 24" with a 140mm fan over each light and it stays at about 6-7 degrees above ambient.

ReeferDance said:

Be careful! I had a similar situation. Had a middle panel and wanted to add sides to increase the power with Vero29 2.0's. Might be better to go with a string of Vero18's, or 13's even, to help dissipate the heat over the canopy a little better.

Other then that just going a little big on the heatsinks would help a lot. A 12x12 with a 200mm fan would kick ass I'm sure.

I am running 144w of Vero29 on the 5.886" profile at 24" with a 140mm fan over each light and it stays at about 6-7 degrees above ambient.

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Thanks man, i considered going with a less intense vero or cree but i was concerned that they would require differing spacing to canopy vs the 29s.

Ive got loads of air movement and i could easily add a bit more. Ive got zero heat issues with the optic right now with no ac and near summer temps.

testiclees said:

Thanks man, i considered going with a less intense vero or cree but i was concerned that they would require differing spacing to canopy vs the 29s.

Ive got loads of air movement and i could easily add a bit more. Ive got zero heat issues with the optic right now with no ac and near summer temps.

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You should have no problems then, the 2 chips on a large heatsink is a damn clean look too.

Mine are running at 1.9 amps each.

thanks again. sounds like a plan. On the optic they use one driver per cob. If i want to drive them at 2.1 is t h at the best way to do it? Iniatially i was thinking to use one driver for each pair of cobs. Any suggestions to maximize simplicity and efficiency?

testiclees said:

thanks again. sounds like a plan. On the optic they use one driver per cob. If i want to drive them at 2.1 is t h at the best way to do it? Iniatially i was thinking to use one driver for each pair of cobs. Any suggestions to maximize simplicity and efficiency?

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You might be able to find a meanwell driver that can drive 2. the LPC family would be the first place to look. I got all my drivers from lsdpower.com. (I do have a 12v meanwell that powers all my fans though)



Could not be happier with how they are performing, 90%+ efficiency, almost 99% power factor. Little expensive for shipping from China, but they are half the price of the meanwells and come in so many variations its amazing.

ReeferDance said:

You might be able to find a meanwell driver that can drive 2. the LPC family would be the first place to look. I got all my drivers from lsdpower.com. (I do have a 12v meanwell that powers all my fans though)

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Could not be happier with how they are performing, 90%+ efficiency, almost 99% power factor. Little expensive for shipping from China, but they are half the price of the meanwells and come in so many variations its amazing.

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what's the ordering process like? Ali or Aliepxress?

ReeferDance said:

You might be able to find a meanwell driver that can drive 2. the LPC family would be the first place to look. I got all my drivers from lsdpower.com. (I do have a 12v meanwell that powers all my fans though)

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Could not be happier with how they are performing, 90%+ efficiency, almost 99% power factor. Little expensive for shipping from China, but they are half the price of the meanwells and come in so many variations its amazing.

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When I emailed lsdpower, they gave me a quote with great prices, but one driver was a 150 piece MOQ and the other was 100 MOQ. It was the 1.05A 86-143v (quoted at $29.50) and the 1.4A 87-145v drivers (quoted at $31.50).

Were you able to order a few...like less than 20?

Looks like black HLG's, also on the voltage and current values quite similar!

They have dimmable versions?

caretak3r said:

what's the ordering process like? Ali or Aliepxress?

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Was very easy, just had a nice e-mail conversation with Todd Tang, his email is on their 'contact us' page I think. Sent a wire trasfer from my bank, they confirmed they payment a few days later and shipping literally took less then a week. Was amazing haha.

bizfactory said:

When I emailed lsdpower, they gave me a quote with great prices, but one driver was a 150 piece MOQ and the other was 100 MOQ. It was the 1.05A 86-143v (quoted at $29.50) and the 1.4A 87-145v drivers (quoted at $31.50).

Were you able to order a few...like less than 20?

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I think I requested samples pretty early in our conversations and he was very quick to make sure I had everything I needed, I even changed my order a few times with no problems.

Randomblame said:

Looks like black HLG's, also on the voltage and current values quite similar!

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Yes I think GG or someone, can't remember who, described these as 'meanwell' straight from the manufacturer which seems plausible given the similarities, I just couldn't get past the amount of options LSD had!

Actionbone said:

They have dimmable versions?

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You betcha' only goes up to 150w for the dimmable version.

More fine ,high -quality driver options at 1.4 A .

(GELD60DMV1400PU) Bonus : 12 VDC ,110 mA CV output
http://www.gelighting.com/LightingWeb/na/images/89809-Lightech-60-Watt-LED-Driver-SellSheet_tcm201-48179.pdf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-LIGHTECH-60724-GELD60DMV1400PU-LED-DRIVER-/121560400666

(GELD60DMV1400BF) Bonus : 12 VDC ,110 mA CV output
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-Lightech-LED-driver-GELD60DMV1400BF-/151668567547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item235026adfb

OL1x60-E-CC Bonus :Selectable Power range
http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/files/product_datasheets/OL1x60-E-CC_data_EN.pdf

LC1x70-E-CC Bonus : External NTC control & Auxialiary 12 V ouput for cooling fan
http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/files/product_datasheets/LC1x70-E-CC_datasheet_REF_T220301B_27042015_EN.pdf

stardustsailor said:

Another fine ,high -quality driver option at 1.4 A .
Bonus : 12 VDC ,110 mA CV output

(GELD60DMV1400PU)
http://www.gelighting.com/LightingWeb/na/images/89809-Lightech-60-Watt-LED-Driver-SellSheet_tcm201-48179.pdf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-LIGHTECH-60724-GELD60DMV1400PU-LED-DRIVER-/121560400666

(GELD60DMV1400BF)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GE-Lightech-LED-driver-GELD60DMV1400BF-/151668567547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item235026adfb

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Oh that is sick, could run the fans on that 12V! Not sure how many you could power with only 110mA though.