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Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?

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King Arthur

King Arthur

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I am getting real interested in these, I have a friend who is really good with electronics and I would be super stoked if he could make some for me. Any chance you could tell me what spectrum is the best to buy of veros?

Do you guys mix it up at all ? I see a lot of whites and not much else. Um if you have any advice on items to cover a 2x4 area that would be awesome I could just tell him the list of items and he could order/build! :D woooo, I hope he says yes to me lololol.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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King Arthur said:
I am getting real interested in these, I have a friend who is real with electronics and I would be super stoked if he could make some for me. Any chance you could tell me what spectrum is the best to buy of veros?

Do you guys mix it up at all ? I see a lot of whites and not much else. Um if you have any advice on items to cover a 2x4 area that would be awesome I could just tell him the list of items and he could order/build! :D woooo, I hope he says yes to me lololol.
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A question that demands a quasi-bias response.

Ideally you would have every
spectrum or CCT included that the Vero series offers (2700K-5600K) in a complete grow, as this would allow a user to hone into the plants light needs throughout it's growth cycles.

A bunch of us here on RIU grow with 3000K primarily, from seedling to budding, as the majority of time is spent in the flowering period and red seems to be strongest or most lucrative at 3000K.
 
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King Arthur

King Arthur

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AquariusPanta said:
A question that demands a quasi-bias response.

Ideally you would have every
spectrum or CCT included that the Vero series offers (2700K-5600K) in a complete grow, as this would allow a user to hone into the plants light needs throughout it's growth cycles.

A bunch of us here on RIU grow with 3000K primarily, from seedling to budding, as the majority of time is spent in the flowering period and red seems to be strongest or most lucrative at 3000K.
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Very much appreciated, I know my post seems like a little kid who just unwrapped a trip to hawaii or something LOLOLOL. I am super excited because he said he has no problem building whatever I need but he doesn't know what a cob is XD.

It is alright he is an engineer for bmw so I am sure all I need to do is show him the product and he will be able to tell me wtf to do before I coul fathom it.


you guys fuckin rock on this place!
 
SomeGuy

SomeGuy

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There are two bars with 3 vero-18 3000k each. Then one bar center w four vero18 2700k. I will do them all as 4 cob bars when I redo and put some "finish" on them so it looks like a pro fixture. I wanted to see if these would work well before investing too much. Now Im on the LED path for good it looks like.
 
bicit

bicit

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@dimebagor Those will work fantastic. Realistically though, if you want to save a few cents you could just use the 28AWG version (068801-4227) for a single light. The 18AWG version is ideal for running multiple cobs in series.
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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I've been working on a little DIY project over the past few days, encompassing the Vero 18 COB series. I decided against using one large HS and instead settled on buying half a dozen Arctic Alpine 11's.

Thanks to @SupraSPL and his research, I can cool the COBs more efficiently while running the fan's PSU at a lower potential.

I found a decent PSU on ebay that runs all 6x fans just fine. Here's the link http://m.ebay.com/itm/281416706462

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churchhaze

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About color temperature...

At first, we were all told that since vero 3000k has less blue than cxa, we should get 4000k vero if we want to see good growth.

At the time, I got 3000k vero 29 and they both vegged and flowered very nicely, but I was told I could expect better with 4000k... So I designed my newer model with 3500k vero, which by my eye look way more blue.

Is 3500k too blue? I know MrFlux was recommending 4000k, but SDS seems to disagree all together and suggests using 3000k, which makes more sense to me. I've never had an issue with HPS having too little blue.

I haven't tried flowering with the 3500k yet, but I need to buy more cobs for a veg lamp and i'm thinking of getting more 3000k and switching the 3500k ones to the new veg lamp.

Has anyone here besides MrFlux flowered with 3500k or 4000k? Is it really advisable to get higher than 3000k for flowering?
 
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Abiqua

Abiqua

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churchhaze said:
About color temperature...

At first, we were all told that since vero 3000k has less blue than cxa, we should get 4000k vero if we want to see good growth.

At the time, I got 3000k vero 29 and they both vegged and flowered very nicely, but I was told I could expect better with 4000k... So I designed my newer model with 3500k vero, which by my eye look way more blue.

Is 3500k too blue? I know MrFlux was recommending 4000k, but SDS seems to disagree all together and suggests using 3000k, which makes more sense to me. I've never had an issue with HPS having too little blue.

I haven't tried flowering with the 3500k yet, but I need to buy more cobs for a veg lamp and i'm thinking of getting more 3000k and switching the 3500k ones to the new veg lamp.

Has anyone here besides MrFlux flowered with 3500k or 4000k? Is it really advisable to get higher than 3000k for flowering?
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I have some very limited anecdotal evidence. I have a small 30 watt 3500k light that vegged for a while [not too shabby] and now is just starting to flower....going to brush these ladies for seedmaking, so they are small....but it's too early [but I wanted to chime in anyway! :)] to really make a definite statement, they are goodah though :leaf:

I have 3k AB's to compare them against and I almost think they look to be a tinge "yellower" than CXA 3K. Someone recently was just stating that the 3k CXA spectrum was the closest they had seen to HPS, imho its the 3.5K....

I did just order 2x 3.5K V29's, so they will be running head to head with 2x 3k AB's in the same space.....:peace:
 
AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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@churchhaze

My last grow consisted of 2x 4000K Vero 18s and a BlackStar Flower(Check my Crowns thread for more details), so I have a little advice to provide you and others but I'm not sure it will serve you all any good, as every plant and light is different.

I wasn't satisfied with just the 4000K - not because the light wasn't red enough but because I hadn't tried out the 3500K and 3000K versions. From the charts given by Bridelux, the latters supposedly bear more reds, where the former carries with it more blue.

I plan to try them all together in a combinational array during the upcoming Cup Competition.

In short, you should try something similar as you can't go wrong with the Vero line.
O and something about the 4000K I used: I veggged my last lady for around 30 days, with my 2x Vero COBs up and running the last week of if. She stood no taller than 13 inches just before flower. After the first week of flower, I introduced some IR. She grew about to 30 inches tall after the second week. After budding, she stood around 40 inches and had to have her main head tied down.

I believe this crazy ass growth to be in part due to the available blue provided by the 4000K, with the rest being that IR fastens growth during budding.
 
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Abiqua

Abiqua

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AquariusPanta said:
@churchhaze

My last grow consisted of 2x 4000K Vero 18s and a BlackStar Flower(Check my Crowns thread for more details), so I have a little advice to provide you and others but I'm not sure it will serve you all any good, as every plant and light is different.

I wasn't satisfied with just the 4000K - not because the light wasn't red enough but because I hadn't tried out the 3500K and 3000K versions. From the charts given by Bridelux, the latters supposedly bear more reds, where the former carries with it more blue.

I plan to try them all together in a combinational array during the upcoming Cup Competition.

In short, you should try something similar as you can't go wrong with the Vero line.
O and something about the 4000K I used: I veggged my last lady for around 30 days, with my 2x Vero COBs up and running the last week of if. She stood no taller than 13 inches just before flower. After the first week of flower, I introduced some IR. She grew about to 30 inches tall after the second week. After budding, she stood around 40 inches and had to have her main head tied down.

I believe this crazy ass growth to be in part due to the available blue provided by the 4000K, with the rest being that IR fastens growth during budding.
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I almost went 4k Vero's and Greengenes has a nice new 4k Drone, which is pretty nice. I even thought about the 2700k V29's too, mixing them with 4k, but stuck with the 3.5K
 
DonPetro

DonPetro

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churchhaze said:
About color temperature...

At first, we were all told that since vero 3000k has less blue than cxa, we should get 4000k vero if we want to see good growth.

At the time, I got 3000k vero 29 and they both vegged and flowered very nicely, but I was told I could expect better with 4000k... So I designed my newer model with 3500k vero, which by my eye look way more blue.

Is 3500k too blue? I know MrFlux was recommending 4000k, but SDS seems to disagree all together and suggests using 3000k, which makes more sense to me. I've never had an issue with HPS having too little blue.

I haven't tried flowering with the 3500k yet, but I need to buy more cobs for a veg lamp and i'm thinking of getting more 3000k and switching the 3500k ones to the new veg lamp.

Has anyone here besides MrFlux flowered with 3500k or 4000k? Is it really advisable to get higher than 3000k for flowering?
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Will soon be building a few 120w Vero18 4000k panels so stay tuned.
 
Bueno Time

Bueno Time

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Ive got a few Vero 10 4000K that Im going to try on my new build. I do half my veggin in the flower tent due to extremely small veg area so that in part and also due to wanting to reduce stretch a bit over my CXA 3000K setup. I had bought 1 of each 2700K 3000K 3500K 4000K 5000K and was thinking of going with something less neutral white than 4000K but ended up deciding on the 4000K but going to have some (10) 660nm and (4) 630nm stars also that I have currently with the CXA 3000K ABs, not going to use the (4) 450nm stars that I have been since the Vero 4000K should have more than enough blue already. The reds will be on separate driver to turn on after stretching stage of flowering (first 3 weeks or so).

I really went back and forth when deciding spectrum choice for quite a few weeks before making the purchase, I hope it works well cuz I dont want to buy a bunch of Veros again to try a warmer color temp lol.

Now I am just waiting on screws, taps, and drill bits that I just ordered. So I can compare the 4000K Vero vs CXA3000K starting in a couple weeks here as soon as I get the light built and ultimately after flowering which is the real test.

 
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