Aero Bucket, turning your DWC into a hybrid

Earl

Well-Known Member
This was my first attemp at an aeroponic type grow.

I had some old 18gl rubbermaid tubs
that I thought could be used one more time.

I had to have a drain in the rez
or this two tub method would be unwieldy.

I ordered this hole saw kit on ebay($30)
and I have used it for several projects.


So I settled on using kitchen sink basket strainers for the drain in the tub.

The first thing I had to do was to build a platform so the drain plumbing would fit under the rez tub.


Next I picked up some parts from homedepot


Along with this kit, you need a 1.25" to 1.50" bell reducer.

Then use a garden hose bib to connect to your drain pump.

To install the drain in the tub use the hole saw to make an appropriate soze hole and place the putty around the basket like this.

When you tighten the retainer ring the putty will squish out like this and you will have a water tight seal.

under the platform


This is the pump I have.
It is very quiet and super reliable
Made for fish life support and saltwater.

I got one on ebay for $50
You can get a new one for $80

Here is a pic of a smaller pump so you can see the hook up.


You can use any size tub.
I had these two 18gl tubs laying around so I decided to use them.
I'll show you a lower profile system later
with three gl rubbermaid tubs and a 10gl rez.

Here is what the sytem looks like when it is done.

I know it's not pretty
but it worked and kept the DO very high
which prevented pythium
even though I had 80º rez temps.







The two mature plants.




One plant



This grow used AN three part MGB nutes
with Conniseour during bloom.
All nute loads were 50%

Tap water was used for most of the grow.
There was some mag lock
and mites.

The rez held 8gls of nute solution. 4gls/plant.

A timer ran the spray pump for 30 on and 30 off.

These plants were started under CFLs
and then moved under a 400w hps,
and then another 600w hps was added
during the bloom phase.

96 grams dried and cured.

I hope this inspires you to try aero.

The main benefit is increased DO in the root zone.

Spraying the roots allows you to tolerate higher rez temps
without having to buy a chiller, or become diseased with pythium,
since the roots are hanging in air 30 minutes of every hour.

Feel free to ask any questions.
 

xmarcusx

Active Member
i like ur set up, im farely new to growing but i think imma go with a set up just like urs. i have the same tubs. my question was if the top bucket is full of water subermerging the roots and r the blk hoses spraying out water or air?
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
xmarcusx
The top bucket has the sprayers in the lid
and a drain in the bottom.

It sits on top of the bottom bucket.

The bottom bucket has the solution and the pump.
The bottom bucket is a 10gl rubbermaid with 6gls for the solution.
3gls/plant

The solution is sprayed on the roots for 10 minutes on and then off for 30 minutes.

Re-read the post if you are going to build one.

Here is the same design.
I have a pices of plywood for the lid of the bottom bucket.

You can see the two three gl tubs that sit on the plywood.

Both 3 gl tubs have a drain to let the sprayed solution drip back into the bottom tub

Here you can see the two spray jets and the roots in the 3 gl tub
and the edge of the drain
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
no matter what size rez I have
I always throw one of these in the bottom
and let it run contiuosly for the whole grow.
It keeps everything fresh.
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
You can get the the aquarium pump at walmart for $20

Here is a three gl tub with the pump.

It only hold two gls. I grow moms in this little SWC.
 

Murphys Law

Active Member
I'm a complete noob here for educational purposes, but one big "no-no" I see is the electrical wiring on the floor. You want to keep those things high off the ground for safety purposes.
 

closet.cult

New Member
your said:

but it worked and kept the DO very high
which prevented pythium
even though I had 80º rez temps.


what is this DO you are refering to?

and one tip: people trim their weed over screen so they can collect the resin tips which fall thru while trimming. the resin is pure THC. if you're not going to catch the resin, you should trim over glass so you can scrape up the fallen resin for a great high.

good harvest, bro.


 

growingnovice

Active Member
your said:

but it worked and kept the DO very high
which prevented pythium
even though I had 80º rez temps.
Dissolved Oxygen? Dissipated... uh.. Diluted, no probably not diluted.

Something Oxygen, I presume.

Nice setup Earl, very intuitive. I enjoy your posts here, lots to learn from them.
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
Just like you can dissolve carbon dioxide in water to make "sody water",
you can dissolve oxygen into your nutrient solution, to prevent disease.

Most bad bacteria is anaerobic.(oxygen hating)
Good bacteria is aerobic.(oxygen loving)
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
The weed is already trimmed
and laying on the screen for two days to dry
before going into Ball Jars.
 

Earl

Well-Known Member
I'm a complete noob here for educational purposes, but one big "no-no" I see is the electrical wiring on the floor. You want to keep those things high off the ground for safety purposes.

The cord you see in the picture
is attached to the submersible aquarium pump
pictured in the little blue tub.

Not an electrical hazard, since this pump is designed to work under water.

Thanks for the warning anyway.
 

Murphys Law

Active Member


I was speaking of the power strip in this photo that is partially out of view. Just seems like if you sprung a leak or something water could get to it pretty easy. Just a heads up.

BTW, nice looking buds there :weed:
 

skaos

Active Member
Superfine Misting Nozzle


hxxp://www.dripworksusa.com/store/misters.php

They emit 55 micron droplet witch is the optimal size (well 50 is ...) of the root zone absorption. BUT you will need a TRUE pump (ie: 50 PSI + ) to get those mister to work properly...


skaos
 

GYOOnline

Active Member
actually I sell a REAL aeroponic fogger in my shop ...

it uses ultrasonic vibration .. (nutrients dont pass thru it and it doesnt get plogged....)

these aero systems will build up heat .... and mr earl is right on the money .... you have to pulse the fogg like 15 on and 30 off ... or so depending on your environment ...
 

skaos

Active Member
actually I sell a REAL aeroponic fogger in my shop ...

it uses ultrasonic vibration .. (nutrients dont pass thru it and it doesnt get plogged....)

these aero systems will build up heat .... and mr earl is right on the money .... you have to pulse the fogg like 15 on and 30 off ... or so depending on your environment ...

Define *REAL*, here is my definition :

As long as droplets are of the right size (30 micron to 60 micron) your are REAL - TRUE Aeroponic. Dosent matter if its with a fogger or a fine mist wich is basically the same ;)

My areo system dosent build heat and in TRUE - REAL Aeroponic you can't use a submersible pump or i have yet to find with wich can deliver 60+ PSI.

Youre right about that, using a submersible pump will heat your water...
But to reach 60+ Psi you will need a diaphragm pump like the suhrflo one...

My system dosent clog either, of course u have to clean very well between grows...and use the right nutrients...


skaos
 

kearners

Well-Known Member
hey skaos ...

my fogger doesnt pump water at all ...(and therefore has no psi ....)

there are no sprayers..... and the fog is amazing....

however under continuous run ... it does heat up!

http://www.growyourown-online.com/GYO-16-CLONER/GYO-16-CLONER.html

this is a link to my cloner which uses the same fogger technology.... however we have integrated this in to hybrid grow systems... :)


peace
hey man i would like to use a fogger but there is so many sizes to chose from, which one did you use? and did u have it on 24/7?
 

skaos

Active Member
hey skaos ...

my fogger doesnt pump water at all ...(and therefore has no psi ....)

there are no sprayers..... and the fog is amazing....

however under continuous run ... it does heat up!

http://www.growyourown-online.com/GYO-16-CLONER/GYO-16-CLONER.html

this is a link to my cloner which uses the same fogger technology.... however we have integrated this in to hybrid grow systems... :)


peace
Hi GYOOnline,

What about salts buildup on the fogger ? never had any troubles ?
Also, can you grow plants to full maturity with this system ?

Whats the ratio fogger VS nb. plants VS gal. water ?

Would seems like a good backup for me just in case my pump die...i know, i know i should have bought 2 ;)


Thanks,


skaos
 
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