Advanced platinum led 150

Need help making a decision. I currently have one tent. I'm running a 400watt Apollo cool tube. Not the best equipment but it has out performed expectations. Well anyway I'm going to start another little area for veg only and a mother plant. I have been looking around. Advanced platinum led lights seem like a decent light. Here is my question would the 150 watt model ps300 be enough for a mother plant and animal 1-2 other plants. I would like to get the 300 watt one but it's kind of expensive. I might have to go with Mars or Apollo. Thanks for the help

I say don't do it, check out the small cob panels you can get from the guys on here

LordRalh3 said:

I say don't do it, check out the small cob panels you can get from the guys on here

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Where do I look for those. You said on this site???

For just a mother and clones just get some t5s

LR3 is spot on. I have a P600 and it's OK at best, pretty much a veg or backup light now.

Building a light is not difficult if you have the skills (if I can do it anyone can) and the tools. And it sound like you could build a much better light for what you would pay for the P300.

There are a lot of very knowledgeable folks around here that can help, some great light builds (large and small) on this forum. Me, I'm new to this stuff so I'm not your guy...

It like I'm starting all over again with setting up my first grow trying to decide on a led. I would like to maybe get a advanced platinum 450. To veg 2 plants and maybe throw a auto or 2 in the mix. Already have my 3x3 tent with the 400 watt Mh/hps. Really need a veg area. The wait time is brutal going from seed to harvest. Just going to set it up in my closet no tent. Don't want to run another hid. Just don't want to spend 500 bucks for a dud. I also could get a cheap 600watt Apollo led. Those are 5 watt diodes. A little help. Building my own isn't totally out of the question but highly unlikely. So is the 450 enough. This shit can drive a man mad. Thanks

doesnt change the fact that a basic T5 or a custom 5000-6500k cob fixture from a site member would be more cost effective and outperform any of the apollo stuff

BOBBY_G said:

doesnt change the fact that a basic T5 or a custom 5000-6500k cob fixture from a site member would be more cost effective and outperform any of the apollo stuff

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Point me in the right direction for something custom built. I will go on YouTube and see if I can see what and how to build. Thanks

whats your budget?

BOBBY_G said:

whats your budget?

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400 to 500

$400 to $500, you can build a much better light than what you can buy. There are many here that have much more knowledge than me but this is a way to go.

You can get cpu coolers (fan and heatsink) for around $10 or less (1 per cob)
Cree CXB3070 cobs with reflectors for around $35 each.
4 cob driver for around $60
cpu cooler driver ? (maybe some one here can help)
misc. parts- $100 +-

Design a frame to mount the coolers into an array, a lot of aluminum bar stock and channel to choose from at your local hardware store, easy to cut and a pop rivet gun can be used to put it together.

For around $400 you should be able to build a very nice 4 cob light and there are a ton of video's that will help you.

You get a lot more bang for your buck and output using Vero29 gen 7 COBs, they run $25/each. Get the B version, 50.7V--3 of them on a Meanwell 320W driver (HLG-320H-C2100B) and 3 fin pin heat sinks. It will run your right about $1/watt--a little more once you add in connectors, power cord, frame--but should be between $0.95 to $1.10 per watt. Each one runs at 106.5W, so you get the full 320W out of the driver. Build them in bars of 3, with dimmers (that driver is dimmable). Then you can add and subtract bars as needed for any given space. Putting them on a big frame like those Timber makes can be limiting--and they get heavy. But Vero29's is going to give you the most for your money and you are not compromising quality.

Thanks I gave up on the LEDs and just upgraded to a 600 watt nonolux ballast

lr3 said:

You get a lot more bang for your buck and output using Vero29 gen 7 COBs, they run $25/each. Get the B version, 50.7V--3 of them on a Meanwell 320W driver (HLG-320H-C2100B) and 3 fin pin heat sinks. It will run your right about $1/watt--a little more once you add in connectors, power cord, frame--but should be between $0.95 to $1.10 per watt. Each one runs at 106.5W, so you get the full 320W out of the driver. Build them in bars of 3, with dimmers (that driver is dimmable). Then you can add and subtract bars as needed for any given space. Putting them on a big frame like those Timber makes can be limiting--and they get heavy. But Vero29's is going to give you the most for your money and you are not compromising quality.

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LOL! Next time around... If you are somewhere with hot summers or where heat is an issue--you will come back to the idea of LEDs. Full spectrum white base is the key... if you want results as good as HPS (yields) and better actual bud quality--without the heat of traditional HPS--full spectrum white base is the key. Some added 660/730nm during flower and UV & blue last two weeks of flower for trichome production puts icing on the cake but key is the white base--that is what will produce just as good of results (better in some ways) as HPS as far as weight and quality goes...

lr3 said:

LOL! Next time around... If you are somewhere with hot summers or where heat is an issue--you will come back to the idea of LEDs. Full spectrum white base is the key... if you want results as good as HPS (yields) and better actual bud quality--without the heat of traditional HPS--full spectrum white base is the key. Some added 660/730nm during flower and UV & blue last two weeks of flower for trichome production puts icing on the cake but key is the white base--that is what will produce just as good of results (better in some ways) as HPS as far as weight and quality goes...

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I hear you on the heat issues. I have a cool tube with a high power exhaust fan. Still pushing max temps of around 83. Usually around 77. But I just don't have the experience to build all that. I would go that route if I had the time or knowledge. I did get a Mars 144 reflector series for one run. It work pretty good but I sold it and took a 50 Dollar loss. Thanks for the input. Maybe you could help me build what you where explaining.

There is no comparison with the Mars, I have 3 of the exact same light you had--I'm looking at about triple the yield compared to the Mars light. I bought the Mars in Dec, then saw what people were getting under COBs on Youtube and watched this:
I knew no more about building lights than you do until I watch this. It is all pretty much plug and play, using solderless connectors (put wires in and flip a lever and it locks in). The hardest part is cutting the aluminum stock and drilling the holes to build the frame. It is *way* easier than you think. Then you have complete control over your lighting. One set of COBs will last you something like 11 years running continuously... They are easy to change out or upgrade--so one light is going to last you a long time--and no bulb changes.

I looked into led lights a few months back. I saw the platinum series and contacted a seller on allibaba to order one. I then ran into growmau5 vids and decided to build my own light. I am running 250 watts of cxb 3590 and my plants love it. Total cost including alum angle iron, solderless holders and lenses was under $550.00. I did 4 at 3500k 80 cri and one 3000k 90 cri for the middle light in a 3x3 using an x pattern for flowering. You can use 3500k for both veg and flower. If you watch his videos you will have 0 issues choosing parts and building a light. There are peeps on here that can help you with getting parts for your build too.
If cutting angle iron seems like an issue you can get a small cutter at harbor freight for cheap; A 6 inch cut off saw is around 45 bucks.

I have a diamond series xml350 no complaints money well spent

Yea I used marshydros and they worked OK but not.like my 8 DIY cob build its not that great of a build.but works when inplug it in and I just bought a amare 450+UV off a buddy for $500 and it actually puts off a good bit of heat compared to my Diy about same as the 196 marshydro reflector but this light does a 4x4 foot print so it's not bad got it yesterday so ima start a few autos under it and see what happens good luck with your lights

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Yea I used marshydros and they worked OK but not.like my 8 DIY cob build its not that great of a build.but works when inplug it in and I just bought a amare 450+UV off a buddy for $500 and it actually puts off a good bit of heat compared to my Diy about same as the 196 marshydro reflector but this light does a 4x4 foot print so it's not bad got it yesterday so ima start a few autos under it and see what happens good luck with your lights

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That thing looks sweet. Has a nice spread on it. Like I said I'm going to stick with his. I have had much better results. Would like to see some results with that thing