Advanced Nutrients LIE on their labels...

The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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I'd like to put my 2 pence in and truly do something "for them" because this is what growers do,we spread the love.
I have been making my own nutes for a couple of years now (not all growers are dumb consumers that don't know any better,how do you think we were growing trees before cannabis specific nutes came around?) with a free software program called Hydrobuddy (Google it, it was invented for just that use by a Biochemist).

You tell me the N-P-K value,the volume by weight of solution and the container size and I'll tell you how to make the damn stuff yourself.
Hell I can make most AN stuff, CANNA's entire line (except cannazyme and other enzyme products) and most other company's nutes.

Most raw fertiliser salts are available on Ebay cheap as chips.
So here we have Advanced Nutrients Hammerhead PK 9/18.
Recipe as follows for 1 Litre size....

MonoPotassium Phosphate (0-52-34) 78.2g
Sulphate of Potash (0-0-41) 91.8g
distilled or RO water, to top up to the 1L mark
as a preservative you can add 1g of sodium benzoate if you wish (food preservative).


Knock yourself up a makeshift lab in the kitchen and your good to go!



The ingredients (minus water) to make more than 10 litres of Hammerhead cost me about £12,a kilo of potassium sulphate (with delivery) is less than £4!


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That Mr Black,is how you do something for the community :finger:
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/kushie_kush/kushie_kush_product_information.php

Kushie Kush. A kush specific nutrient? Yeah right, that's biologically impossible and you well know it! Any Indica from the Hindu Kush Mountain range can be called kush,it doesn't make it any different to an Indica from China. ALL plants just see N-P-K and that's it,end of!
Proud to work for AN? You should actually be ashamed of yourself pulling marketing scams on unsuspecting noobs like that! My girlfriend has an Msc in marketing,even she pissed her sides laughing at the balls of it!

If you care to supply the AN branded Kushie Kush I'll put them side by side with my bottle of raw salts and prove AN talks crap anyday!

You carry on with your 9-5 for AN pal while real growers who know the score continue to destroy your salary shifting crops,with not an AN bottle in site!
 
mufastaa

mufastaa

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im goin an all the way and couldnt be happier. it was pretty cheap too, found the whole sensi line for 45 dollars online and went and picked up nirvana for just 25. plants love it. gonna have enough for round 2 also.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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mufastaa said:
im goin an all the way and couldnt be happier. it was pretty cheap too, found the whole sensi line for 45 dollars online and went and picked up nirvana for just 25. plants love it. gonna have enough for round 2 also.
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You think spending $70 on nutes is pretty cheap after what I told you!.............:dunce:

mufastaa said:
and i dont think that your fat buds prove AN sucks because you didnt use them... but my buds are pretty fat and i do use them, which says way more. AN and tap water :)

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How do you think AN makes nutes? I'll tell you,they buy raw fertilizer salts,water them down,bottle them and sell them!
If you actually paid attention to my posts you would understand that my fat buds prove AN sucks because I'm using the EXACT SAME INGREDIENTS they make their nutes from, I prove this by GIVING you the recipe for Hammerhead costing less than 1/10th of the price they charge you! Big Mike doesn't get buds the size of vodka bottles and pull 5 oz (dry) from a 4 foot plant in a 9 litre pot under 400w and he supposedly uses their ENTIRE line!
AN suck because they make MASSIVE profit by selling you nothing more than a fancy name/label and a load of marketing hype, they sell a product called Kushie Kush as a Kush specific nute (biologically impossible), I'll put their own product next to a plain tub of fert salt and prove it!


This is not a penis waving competition but your buds say nothing at all pal, that's not even a meter square tent your using. How about you take a photo of them next to something for size reference (like a vodka bottle?) and then re-post? mine are waaaaaaaay fatter for a fraction of the price!
 
mufastaa

mufastaa

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yes... 70 dollars for 2 grows is cheap. i see a bunch of people go out and spend way more on GH or whatever other lines. Also i checked that hydrobuddy program, because i thought it is a really cool idea.. but mixing your own nutes is a lot of work, especially if you wanna come up with a custom mix. plus i dont know how i feel about ordering all the chemicals separately online. but its cool that you have the time and experience. maybe someday.

people say AN is way more expensive than it is... in some places ok (like my hydro store sells a quart of bigbud for over a 100$), but you can find deals online.

Also a question for you about that vodka bottle bud. did you trim some of the fan leaves or did it just grow really tall like that? if so when did you trim the leaves? so much different advice out there on this subject.
 
SFguy

SFguy

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Yorkshireman again.

im gonna rep you for DAYS BRO!!!!!!! THAT IS REAL SHIT MAN!!!!!!
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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mufastaa said:
im goin an all the way and couldnt be happier. it was pretty cheap too, found the whole sensi line for 45 dollars online and went and picked up nirvana for just 25. plants love it. gonna have enough for round 2 also.
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You think $70 for incomplete base nutes and a 0-0-1 "booster" (it's basically sugar water, read the ingredients) is a good deal? Did you even read the original post? They lie on their f*****g labels!
 
mufastaa

mufastaa

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def not sugar water. you can smell the natural stuff in it and the liquid is a dark brown. and they are complete... why wouldn't you think so? 0 deficiencies and beautiful plants just before harvest. not to mention faster growth than ive seen from anyone on here during veg and early flower, although partly due to strain. and ill have enough for round 2 + extra nirvana. and my ppms have been all over the place.
plants love it.
i mean cmon guys, theyre one of the biggest nute companies around, and used by thousands of cannabis growers worldwide. theyre not lying when they say its a complete base nutrient. people would find out.
 
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beans davis

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mufastaa said:
def not sugar water. you can smell the natural stuff in it and the liquid is a dark brown. and they are complete... why wouldn't you think so? 0 deficiencies and beautiful plants just before harvest. not to mention faster growth than ive seen from anyone on here during veg and early flower, although partly due to strain. and ill have enough for round 2 + extra nirvana. and my ppms have been all over the place.
plants love it.
i mean cmon guys, theyre one of the biggest nute companies around, and used by thousands of cannabis growers worldwide. theyre not lying when they say its a complete base nutrient. people would find out.
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This guy does'nt know anything about plants or nutes.
UB would tell him to go buy Mel Franks book like he did me!
 
Cannabisworks

Cannabisworks

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Thailord said:
Great 1st post Bart. If Big Mike was "all about them" why is his products 5,6,8 even 10x more costly than other lines for vitually the same exact product? Why do we have to buy 18 products to equal other lines 6-8 products? Could you not consolidate some of these into each other to produce the same results? Answer is yes, you could, but you don't b/c it is not "all about them" it is all about your bottom line at the end of the day. If your nutrients were so superior over lines to warrant such high costs, why would your marketing schemes condemn and down other lines to make advancements in the grow communities? Seems to me if your products were worth half of what you charge, you would put the proof in the pudding and not create marketing schemes which condemn and down other lines. A great product does not need to be hyped up by downing it's competitors, it proves itself in results, not by making everyone else look inferior. Over 35 yrs of growing, and have tried every product you sell, not once did my results warrant paying your prices over other lines, in fact, I would rank you a 4/10 in yields and even lower in finished flavor. I been doing this a good while myself Bart, you may be able to pass your BS to this new generation, but to many of us old school guys, you are just over priced hype.
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????hu???..im not bart nor do i suport them liyin fuks. they are my competition actualy, you quoted me directing this to me????.
 
Cannabisworks

Cannabisworks

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that software is a joke. it only tells whats on a label. will never know what the hidden formula is. so its making a bottle of miricle grow with just N/P/K. more to growing than that. and its the hidden shit that makes the differences. im looking at some advanced recipes and what i see listed here isnt theirs..not all of it and not same numbers...close but close isnt same. all foods are close to each other so it is a general over the counter reg nute mix. but for the ones want close or good enough it works
 
mufastaa

mufastaa

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i still like mine better. the picture was only 2 plants, each with 6 or more buds that size. and i looked up dg prices... about 20 for each part (grow and bloom) +micros so your lookin at about 70 bucks right there. those are 1L's (same as mine).

right now on ebay theres a deal for sensi A + B, bud candy, and big bud for 90 bucks with free shipping :) you know you want it. I cant speak for budcandy and big bud myself but i wanna try them next.
 
MaxStealth

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Cannabisworks said:
so as off yesterday fat bastard mike and gino screwed people again. his 25 employees he had at the rosebud mag showed up to work yesterday morning to find all the doors locked. nice guy to not tell his staff right before x-mas they no longer had a job. this is the shit that makes me and many many other avoid them at all costs. its more than what the nutes are. hes just a plain and simple low life scum.
believe me their days are over. more news soon.....lol..
funny anyone to believe his info. hes being shut down for all his lies but all of a sudden tells a truth...lol i dont think he even knows how to spell truth or honest

gonna be enjoyable to watch his empire crumble
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If thats true, its messed up.

AN is still publishing BigbudsMag.. so I have no idea why the entire staff at Rosebud would be fired without notice...

I understand you don't need a staff to publish BigBudsMag, it's nothing but AN advertisements anyways.... and that's why i rather pick up a copy of UG or MY... although i'm pretty sure UG is out of biz now.
 
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Thailord

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Cannabisworks said:
????hu???..im not bart nor do i suport them liyin fuks. they are my competition actualy, you quoted me directing this to me????.
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No man, how that happened I have no idea man, clicked the wrong button or something. shit, I'm a grower geek not a computer computer geek. This thread is incredibly funny though, especially the guy pushing AN like it is the best shit. I ran the full Grand Master schedule against Roots Organic Greenfields, 707, adding 30% coco coir soiless mix, I added nothing more than liquified seaweed for veg, and molasses during flowering and my yields were still better; lets see $780 vs a $10.95 bottle of liquidfied seaweed which I still have over half left, and a $3 bottle of Grandma's molasses and got better tasting buds and more of them. FYI AN fans using AN Sensi line, it has Uria in it, which is worthless in hydro and basically the same in soil. A complete line, maybe a complete line of crap you do not need. Customer Service is a joke, the 100% money back promise is a joke, shit myself and 4 pother people are still waiting after 6 months for our money back. Yeah, you can buy AN online for cheap, you know why, b/c places are trying to get that shit off their shelf and carry an honest line that truly backs their products. The only retailers I see push and hype up AN are those more concerned with their end of the day profits than the growers who support their stores.

Sorry about the mis quote Cannabisworks.
 
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