Additives: A Wise Investmint / A Wast of Money

Mr Green Man said:

Hi, I'm growing DWC, it's my first time and I'm really injopying it. Hydroponics brings togeather my two faverite things, Science and horticulture.

I was doing some reading on Additves for my nutes, Iw as wondering if anyone had used any and what they thought of them?

The grow shop is around 200Miles away, but I will be in that part of the country on Monday.
I phoned ahead to see what they had in stock and the three that stuck out where.

Canna PK13/14
Nitrozyme
Canna Zym
And this also looked interesting.
Rhizotonic

Would these help in my DWC system or should I just keep it simple.
They sound great on the packet, but they would.

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VictorVIcious said:

Nitrozime is "Concentrated 100% Organic Marine Algae Extract" , why would he be better with something else other than price? Nitrozime in the 16oz size is $2.00/ oz. Manufacturer recommend 5-10 mil/ qt. in hydro. VV

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Auxins in seaweed include indolyl-acetic acid, discovered in seaweed in 1933 for the first time. Two new auxins, as yet unidentified, but unlike any of the known indolyl-acetic acid types, were also discovered in 1958 in the Laminaria and Ascophyllum seaweeds used for processing into dried seaweed meal and liquid extract. These auxins have been found to encourage the growth of more cells -- in which they differ from more familiar types of auxin which simply enlarge the cells without increasing their number. One of the auxins also stimulates growth in both stems and roots of plants, and in this differs from indolyl-acetic acid and its derivatives, which cause cells to elongate but not to divide. The balanced action of this seaweed auxin has not been found in any other auxin.

It has been proved at the Marine Laboratory at Aberdeen that indolyl-acetic acid and the other newly discovered seaweed auxins are extracted in increased quantities by the process of alkaline hydrolysis. We believe that much of the value of our hydrolized seaweed extract is due to this auxin content; but since the amount of auxin in the extract is scarcely enough to promote the increased growth which follows its use as a foliar spray, we think plants so treated are themselves stimulated to produce more vitamins and growth hormones than would otherwise be the case.

At least two gibberellins (hormones which simply encourage growth, and have not, like auxins, growth-controlling properties too) have been identified in seaweed.

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THEITALIANKIND- Hey man,

What kinds of products are they reco'ing if you don't mind me asking?

If your a new/er grower you'd be wise to invest in top shelf equipment before you got out and buy a bunch of expensive nutes and stuff. One needs to have a REALLY great idea of your realistic goals and the space you have to work with. Having a perfect enviroment with the proper Temp, Humidity, PH, Fresh Lamps, CO2 PPM etc combined with consistency, PROPER nutrition that's in balance, great genetics and love is what brings awesome yields of tasty buds(what a run-on senetence..eh)! Plenty of growers spend big bucks on expensive products whom don't nearly have their grows dialed in.

Anyway, Kelp is great stuff for Plants and People. Kelp/Seaweed can harness the power of the Ocean and the sun.

It's a great source of some Micronutrients/Trace Minerals, Organic Growth Horomones and Auxins. Scientists have really discovered that Cobalt(which Kelp is one of the Greatest Organic Sources of) is awesome for our Mycroz. Fungi friends that Colonize our roots to help increase water and nutrient uptake. Nutes that the plants would otherwise be doing more work for (read natural stress created and NRG used competing with other microbes, clay particles etc.).

This is the Sales pitch from Age Ole and it's 100% True....their's other Kelp products out their of coruse but thus far this is my fave.

*Liquid Kelp is the original soil plant bio-stimulant. When applied as a soil drench Age-Old Kelp liquid concentrate helps build soil health, and will restore the biological life of damaged soils. When used as a foliar spray, Age-Old Kelp provides needed micronutrients, while improving the uptake of most nutrients.*

It's very much a Soil *Bio-stimulant* that helps give me an Organic lawn that always made my Miracle Blow loving neigbors envious as sin and CHronic that always made myself and med patients very happy. It will absolutely improve soil tilth.

I hope this helps some. I've used it @ as low as 1/4Tsp/Gallon in a drip wattering setup to 2 Tsp/Gallon as a Foliar Spray with Coco-wet throughout veg and in early flower.

Peace

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VictorVIcious said:

so. whats the price? point was yousaid don't get Nitrozime get sea weed, that is what Nitrozime is, and its one of the things he has available. VV

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VictorVIcious said:

Ok lumberjack, now that I have a price for comparison what is the dose. I haven't used Nitrozime in my reses because of the cost to use it in a 30 gallon res yet. Even though I know its not what you pay for it but the results you get that really determines cost.
You seemed to have missed the point, it is available to him. And I have pointed out many times I don't have your experience. Why so defensive? Please just post the answer in one of my threads.
Mr Green Man, Al B fuct uses the Canna line of products, he would be a good one to ask about thier line. VV

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