Actual Value of Marijuana?

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
Seems to me we need a definition and test for impairment.
There's the rub.

Cannabis' effects are so subjective that applying such tests would be expensive and very inaccurate.

There have been studies that show Cannabis to actually improve test subject's performance under controlled conditions.

If you can get such tests to replace pee tests, I'm all for it.

Personally, I don't think the powers in this country will let it happen.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
There's the rub.

Cannabis' effects are so subjective that applying such tests would be expensive and very inaccurate.

There have been studies that show Cannabis to actually improve test subject's performance under controlled conditions.

If you can get such tests to replace pee tests, I'm all for it.

Personally, I don't think the powers in this country will let it happen.
You are probably right, but using current testing methods all you can do is determine whether somebody smoked a joint in the last month, if they did then they are "under the influence". This is clearly unacceptable, and needs to be fixed.
 
if the prices are high i better get high quality weed. but if i'm paying for dirt id rather just produce my own. i could see paying 250 to 300 for some dank shit, i guess its really up to the people on the price cause if they try to fuck us with ridiculous prices why even buy it.
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
Very true. If I take a bong hit I can't drive for several hours. Most people are fine in like half an hour.
Exactly. I'm a comparatively weak head, but am pretty much unimpaired after fifteen minutes, regardless of the amount smoked. The pain relieving qualities remain for two to four hours.
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
Ever been out of papers, and vaporized buds on your vehicle's cigarette lighter?

I found out how well it works in 1969.

Unfortunately, it destroys the lighter, after a while.
 

golddog

Well-Known Member
Smoking doesn't bother me....., but I call tell sometimes it bothers my wife.

Not the coordination thing, but we will decide to go somewhere (like her best friend 10 blocks away) , and she will make a wrong turn.

I say why are you getting on the freeway? :idea:

Duh .....
 

deprave

New Member
As a grower I think it will be about 2,000$ a lb and very few people will grow indoor, indoor growing will become a hobbyist venture, indoor growing is already borderline merely a hobbyist venture now but if mj was 100% legal it would be a hobby in the fullest sense
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
As a grower I think it will be about 2,000$ a lb and very few people will grow indoor, indoor growing will become a hobbyist venture, indoor growing is already borderline merely a hobbyist venture now but if mj was 100% legal it would be a hobby in the fullest sense
Agreed.

Indoor growing is expensive and dangerous. Indoor grows became a huge issue in Arcata in the last few years as one house after another burned down due to inexperienced growers doing their own wiring.

Even when HPS became available I chose to stay outdoors.

Along with the expense, I've found that few indoor growers can improve on the buds I get from my garden. I've tried hundreds of samples, because my spouse worked in a dispensary before her health prevented her from making the commute. She got a free gram daily, from the top shelf.
 

fdd2blk

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You are probably joking, but if not you are driving under the influence. I have no problem with you being arrested for that.

you can "drive under the influence" and still be legal. i can drive all i want at a 0.07. how will a court prove i am "under the influence" of pot? unless they can catch me with smoke in my lungs. so what exactly will i be arrested for and how will it be proven in a court of law? and how will it be determined to begin with? is there a "stoned" test?
 

mccumcumber

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Who the fuck drives sober... that shit is way too boring. I have at least 6 40s and 12 blunts before getting behind the wheel.
 

Coreyhulick

Active Member
it should be free to people who dont over doo it and even if you did it should still be cheap as shit, but i dont think it should get legalized any way it should just get decriminalized and not cause any more problems, if it gets legal it would be like tobacco with fillers and not all the same kind in it if its pushed through factorys. they would find the cheapest ways around every thing. if its just decriminalized they shouldnt have too really think about it and we should just let the value still be based on its quality not just making it a flat price. some people make all there money from growing and selling. if it was legal itwould put alot of people out of the job whitch leads too bad ways of earning money if they are too lazy too get a job. so just decriminalize it and let nature take its courus and let the people find a good price range so we all can be happy with it.
 

desert dude

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you can "drive under the influence" and still be legal. i can drive all i want at a 0.07. how will a court prove i am "under the influence" of pot? unless they can catch me with smoke in my lungs. so what exactly will i be arrested for and how will it be proven in a court of law? and how will it be determined to begin with? is there a "stoned" test?
If the cop has probable cause to arrest you (smells pot, you are acting intoxicated, etc) then he can place you under arrest and compel you to be tested for alcohol, this I know for certain. I don't know for a fact that you can be compelled to give blood/urine for a drug test, but I think you can. If you test positive for metabolites, then you are under the influence. It's that simple.
 

fdd2blk

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If the cop has probable cause to arrest you (smells pot, you are acting intoxicated, etc) then he can place you under arrest and compel you to be tested for alcohol, this I know for certain. I don't know for a fact that you can be compelled to give blood/urine for a drug test, but I think you can. If you test positive for metabolites, then you are under the influence. It's that simple.
no, it is NOT that simple. i am a med patient so of course i will test positive. doesn't prove anything and i won't be charged because of it. and even if i was arrested, the courts would still have to prove it. they would have to prove i was "high" at the time and there is no way to prove that. and even if i wasn't a med patient they still couldn't say i was "under the influence at the time of driving" they would have to prove it. and they can't.

any good lawyer could beat it.

yes, obviously alcohol is a different story. i can still have a few beers and legally drive though. probably, with me being over 200 lbs, be able to do a double hit on a beer bong and still drive off legally. i wouldn't attempt that one "while" driving though.
 
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