Ace Genetics Thread

[TonightYou]

So hope everyone is doing well. Just thought I'd update on the garden as its been a while.

So I unfortunately as mentioned in another thread decided the Malawi gals had to go. They were just becoming more and more unmanageable. New growth continued to sprout even as parts of the plants were filling in. I had to trim her down about three times, she easily could have reached 7 or more feet, so note to others, pure sativas are a pain in the ass. I do think if someone wanted to scrog these, that would work well in managing the height of these beasts. Shoving them in the corner wasn't doing them justice, and I'll have to see if I took any photos of the gals before I chopped them but they were monsters. They were frosting up as well, they were very interesting plants. Sadly I spent almost 14 weeks and they took up space that could have been suited for other plants. I knew going in that these girls would be a challenge, lesson learned.

Here is the China Yunnan. A big totem pole producer, has a few weeks left. Not as frosty as other gear, but still has time to shine. Smoke report will be the determining factor obviously and I have a clone. At this point though, I think I've got better looking gear growing right next to her. She's a little burnt on the top, as she grew into the light and missed a watering.


Next up Maple Leaf Indica. Another totem pole of production, same viewpoint as China Yunnan, not nearly as frosty or pretty as other gear. Aromas are sweet and not very pronounced. I'll definitely try more of the beans I have stashed away later as I'm very interested in indica varieties. As you can tell, she didn't respond well to topping. Both China Yunnan and MLI prefer it seems to be totem poles

 

[coppershot]

very nice job! it sucks that you ran into problems with the Malawi but I know that you have many strains that you are waiting to pull the trigger on. what new strains are you considering?

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Think I would have toughed it out, but it's totally understandable. Mine are quite manageable actually. No crazy insane stretch. When you veg them bigger I guess it can help, but from what I understand Zamal isnt a super stretchy plant so that helps too I'm sure.

The bulb for my brand new gavita 600 went out. No easy replacements found. Had to buy a new gavita 1000 to replace it for the time being.

Now I have a 600 and a replacement bulb on the way (1 year warranty on the bulbs). Probably going to wire it up for veg.

 

[TonightYou]

very nice job! it sucks that you ran into problems with the Malawi but I know that you have many strains that you are waiting to pull the trigger on. what new strains are you considering?

It is a bit disappointing. Wish I could have done them justice, but they were root bound. Even though I had planted them in large containers pretty much not estsblished, I couldn't believe the root mass. I've learned my lessons on root bound plants and the problems that can occur.

What am I considering next? That's a good question. I've got the testers rocking now and still a few Bodhi strains I have yet to get a female on and some with simple a single one, I need to revisit some packs. Also have to considering in 6 months I'll have a new place so I need to keep in mind that I'd like to only have to move sexed clones of what I have running, and not a whole host of strains and unknown plants. Planning ahead you see. I wouldn't mind getting peyote purple though, I know some people are growing it on here. Perhaps I could get a gift

Think I would have toughed it out, but it's totally understandable. Mine are quite manageable actually. No crazy insane stretch. When you veg them bigger I guess it can help, but from what I understand Zamal isnt a super stretchy plant so that helps too I'm sure.

The bulb for my brand new gavita 600 went out. No easy replacements found. Had to buy a new gavita 1000 to replace it for the time being.

Now I have a 600 and a replacement bulb on the way (1 year warranty on the bulbs). Probably going to wire it up for veg.

I thought about sticking it out but I had no idea when it would be finished. With so many plants in veg ready to go, I'd much rather get them into flower sooner rather than later.

Reminds me of Amos only wanting 8 to 9 week strains. I practically could have had 4 place to harvested instead of the two that didn't finish. I definitely believe there is some awesome potential in these plants, but I need the proper space or to scrog them if I'm going to a small space.

 

[coppershot]

moving kinda sucks when your room is full. don't get me wrong, new place is awesome but trying to manage, seedlings, clones, veg, flower, it can all be a bit much. I have done it and it was not easy cause you have to setup your space before unpacking your house. the wife was not impressed with my priorities lol.

I can tell you that you hae the right idea, sexed clones only would be soooo much easier. I was actually thinking of grabbing some peyote purple and some of the funk from GDP. After seeing Stows PP it really got me considering it.

 

[TonightYou]

moving kinda sucks when your room is full. don't get me wrong, new place is awesome but trying to manage, seedlings, clones, veg, flower, it can all be a bit much. I have done it and it was not easy cause you have to setup your space before unpacking your house. the wife was not impressed with my priorities lol.

I can tell you that you hae the right idea, sexed clones only would be soooo much easier. I was actually thinking of grabbing some peyote purple and some of the funk from GDP. After seeing Stows PP it really got me considering it.

Yea I hate moving. Only second time in my life that I'll have moved. I do know a couple of things. One I'm hiring movers for my furniture. Fuck it, I'll save my back that way. Only things I'll move are my clothing, computer systems, TVs, stereo equipment and my grow gear/plants. Any plants in have in flower will simply be placed in those hanging clothing boxes for shirts/suits, ya know the ones I'm talking about. These boxes are easy to transport, won't have to cut them down in a hurry and unlike plastic bags, allow the plants to properly breath. Don't know where I'll be, only thing that may be a problem is if I take a job on the west coast or Colorado as I've got family out there. If I go out of state, I'll simply FedEx my clones overnight.

Eta: plan on staying in the mitten as my woman is here and will be switching up jobs, but ya never know.

 

[coppershot]

your plan sounds similar to my experience. I move all of my delicate/valuable stuff on my own. I had to get the mover to take my TV cause it was too large (70) for my truck. I would be too freaked out to send clones to myself, I am not legal and the risk is far too high for me to accept. When I moved from Ontario to Alberta I had to start over. I rationalized it with new beginnings and starting fresh...I was really just lying to myself as I lost two of my mothers that I really loved and haven't been able to replace. All is not lost though, it gave me the opportunity to get new gear going!

edit - make sure to find out about the movers policy on damage. they damaged my turntables, a massive sewing machine, and numerous scratches, dents and chips to our furniture. I was an epic battle to get any sort of compensation....

 

[TonightYou]

your plan sounds similar to my experience. I move all of my delicate/valuable stuff on my own. I had to get the mover to take my TV cause it was too large (70) for my truck. I would be too freaked out to send clones to myself, I am not legal and the risk is far too high for me to accept. When I moved from Ontario to Alberta I had to start over. I rationalized it with new beginnings and starting fresh...I was really just lying to myself as I lost two of my mothers that I really loved and haven't been able to replace. All is not lost though, it gave me the opportunity to get new gear going!

edit - make sure to find out about the movers policy on damage. they damaged my turntables, a massive sewing machine, and numerous scratches, dents and chips to our furniture. I was an epic battle to get any sort of compensation....

Ah, well not to say it's the best thing to do, shipping things that is, but let's say I know people that have done such a thing
These types of services exist, and generally as long as nothing is obvious there is no reason to investigate. Their goal is to get the package from point A to point B. They don't care what is in said package as long as it's not an explosive. Pay cash, use alias on package and life is fine. I've known quite a few workers at both FedEx and UPS, and investigation is practically non existent. Sometimes police come through with dogs, but most dogs are trained for explosives over drugs and can only work for so long. You practically have to send a broken, shit package to get caught. Not that I'm encouraging anyone to break any additional laws, but I figure the post office, FedEx and UPS are probably the biggest drug dealers in the United States. Best part is they don't know it and don't care. I know people swear by the USPS, claiming a warrant will keep them safe. Yet they forget the post office general has the ability to open any mail or package if it's suspected of being dangerous to the daily operations. That is something that is just as easy to construct as probable cause at a traffic stop. Private companies simply want to fulfill their duty to customers and provide a good experience.

 

[Letstrip]

I reckon those Malawis would go best outdoors in a place were you can finish them. I was looking at my Panama and its quite nice it would defiantly be a contender for scrog and doesnt have a to long of a flowering time, defiantly worth looking into for an indoor grow.

 

[TonightYou]

Yes, the Malawi would be great outdoors if you have the season for them. Remember these plants would easily go into December in the northern hemisphere. Even better would be a greenhouse. Beware though as they would be monsters.

 

[Letstrip]

Yes, the Malawi would be great outdoors if you have the season for them. Remember these plants would easily go into December in the northern hemisphere. Even better would be a greenhouse. Beware though as they would be monsters.

Yeah someone did Malawi clones over here last season with just a little bit of rot but hell theyd go great in a greenhouse.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Peyote Purple is now dried and jarred. It's a bit of a finicky plant. Being that I grow in an organically amended soil it's tough for me to pin down any feeding type issues, but my hunch is that it's a light feeder and perhaps my soil was a little too rich for it. Either way, it finished just fine and is a very frosty gal! It has a mild odor to it, so it would be perfect for someone worried about smell. I prefer a bit more of a pronounced odor, but it's not a deal breaker. It tastes like shampoo to me. Kinda unique. The buzz is really where this girl shines. A very nice Indica body buzz, with a nice head to it as well. I'm guessing that this would test quite high for THC. I grew this in a small bucket from seed just to get an idea if I like it, so yield would be a bit of an unknown for me at this point until I run it again from clone, but I'm thinking it is an average to below average yielder.

Snapped a couple pics while she was getting a haircut...

 

[Sativied]

Peyote Purple is now dried and jarred....
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That looks very very good, nice furry coating of trics. Any tric shots for the frostiest bud thread?

 

[st0wandgrow]

That looks very very good, nice furry coating of trics. Any tric shots for the frostiest bud thread?

Those pics are about all I can manage from my cell phone cam.

Santa stiffed me on a new camera this year. Bastard!

 

[Amos Otis]

the wife was not impressed with my priorities lol.

Exp says ATM G/Fs > wives.

Peyote Purple is now dried and jarred.It tastes like shampoo to me.

Why not have a sweet funky bowl of Fat Grape Cheese instead?

 

[st0wandgrow]

Why not have a sweet funky bowl of Fat Grape Cheese instead?

It's really not a bad taste. Not my favorite, but not disgusting either. Quite subtle

 

[COGrown]

So hope everyone is doing well. Just thought I'd update on the garden as its been a while.

So I unfortunately as mentioned in another thread decided the Malawi gals had to go. They were just becoming more and more unmanageable. New growth continued to sprout even as parts of the plants were filling in. I had to trim her down about three times, she easily could have reached 7 or more feet, so note to others, pure sativas are a pain in the ass. I do think if someone wanted to scrog these, that would work well in managing the height of these beasts. Shoving them in the corner wasn't doing them justice, and I'll have to see if I took any photos of the gals before I chopped them but they were monsters. They were frosting up as well, they were very interesting plants. Sadly I spent almost 14 weeks and they took up space that could have been suited for other plants. I knew going in that these girls would be a challenge, lesson learned.

Here is the China Yunnan. A big totem pole producer, has a few weeks left. Not as frosty as other gear, but still has time to shine. Smoke report will be the determining factor obviously and I have a clone. At this point though, I think I've got better looking gear growing right next to her. She's a little burnt on the top, as she grew into the light and missed a watering.
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Next up Maple Leaf Indica. Another totem pole of production, same viewpoint as China Yunnan, not nearly as frosty or pretty as other gear. Aromas are sweet and not very pronounced. I'll definitely try more of the beans I have stashed away later as I'm very interested in indica varieties. As you can tell, she didn't respond well to topping. Both China Yunnan and MLI prefer it seems to be totem poles
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I would definitely not rule out revisiting that MLI, but I think that these days the old landraces are best used for extracts and concentrates, or as breeding tools. When you consider the origins of these strains, the people of the Mazar region where the MLI originates don't grow it for the flower; they are bred to be big ass outdoor trich factories, without much regard to whether the trichs are on buds or just an absurd amount of sugar leaf. Mine was definitely not the prettiest girl, but those plants are originally grown for their hash, and the quality of the hash from that plant was intense. Unfortunately, I grew her before growing a plant purely for extract/concentrate was a viable option for me, and now that extracts are en vogue i am kicking myself for not still keeping her. Pure orange diesel jet fuel, and while the flower itself was more of the moderate 'daytime indica' variety when compared to something like a bubba, the hash was night time knockout stuff.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Peyote Purple is now dried and jarred. It's a bit of a finicky plant. Being that I grow in an organically amended soil it's tough for me to pin down any feeding type issues, but my hunch is that it's a light feeder and perhaps my soil was a little too rich for it. Either way, it finished just fine and is a very frosty gal! It has a mild odor to it, so it would be perfect for someone worried about smell. I prefer a bit more of a pronounced odor, but it's not a deal breaker. It tastes like shampoo to me. Kinda unique. The buzz is really where this girl shines. A very nice Indica body buzz, with a nice head to it as well. I'm guessing that this would test quite high for THC. I grew this in a small bucket from seed just to get an idea if I like it, so yield would be a bit of an unknown for me at this point until I run it again from clone, but I'm thinking it is an average to below average yielder.

Snapped a couple pics while she was getting a haircut...

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Mine is a ligggght feeder. My C99 is devouring the nutes comparatively. Even the Zamal plants seem less sensitive.

 

[yesum]

Peyote Purple is now dried and jarred. It's a bit of a finicky plant. Being that I grow in an organically amended soil it's tough for me to pin down any feeding type issues, but my hunch is that it's a light feeder and perhaps my soil was a little too rich for it. Either way, it finished just fine and is a very frosty gal! It has a mild odor to it, so it would be perfect for someone worried about smell. I prefer a bit more of a pronounced odor, but it's not a deal breaker. It tastes like shampoo to me. Kinda unique. The buzz is really where this girl shines. A very nice Indica body buzz, with a nice head to it as well. I'm guessing that this would test quite high for THC. I grew this in a small bucket from seed just to get an idea if I like it, so yield would be a bit of an unknown for me at this point until I run it again from clone, but I'm thinking it is an average to below average yielder.

Snapped a couple pics while she was getting a haircut...

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Shampoo? Hehe I thought of hairspray to describe the weird taste, related in that they are hair products. A lot of the coffee and chocolate in their too.

The buzz is relaxed indica but not a knockout effect. I think the thc is in the teens for percent. Not weak but not devastating either. Good all round high to it.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

So the Zamal I had figured would be my best plant early on... by far the smelliest of all of them. It reeeeeeks of liqorice. Such a strange smell. Really great structure, not too much leaf. However it also appears to be by far the longest flowering of all of them lol. Just my luck.

I'll get some pictures up in the next few days.