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st0wandgrow

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It's kind of evolved Dr J. Maybe an old habit that was hard to shake, but I started out using it on are regular, weekly "feeding" schedule. It seemed to work just dandy, but i had no real way to quantify that. More recently I've only been using it if I feel a plant needs it .... which is pretty unlikely given the assortment of dry amendments that are already in the soil.

Teas can be a great tool, but I've really been in to simplifying things lately. The worm bin is where it's at IMO.
 

Dr.J20

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It's kind of evolved Dr J. Maybe an old habit that was hard to shake, but I started out using it on are regular, weekly "feeding" schedule. It seemed to work just dandy, but i had no real way to quantify that. More recently I've only been using it if I feel a plant needs it .... which is pretty unlikely given the assortment of dry amendments that are already in the soil.

Teas can be a great tool, but I've really been in to simplifying things lately. The worm bin is where it's at IMO.
I really have to agree with you on both counts. I do think the 'feed schedule' mentality is a holdover from the synthetic growing days, where it made sense because your limiting factors were salt buildup in the medium and the feeding rate of the plant: hence cycles of flushing and "precise" feed schedules. The further away we get from thinking of plants as "things" (as opposed to beings), the easier it is to understand that you're job as a gardener is to pay attention to the plants to HELP THEM get what they need, when they need it. kind of a teamwork situation rather than a master-slave dynamic (yes i am making an oblique reference to gwf hegel here).
As to the worms, i never would have imagined how much fun, and how into farming worms I am. I've been getting more and more conscious about what I feed those lil fellers to make sure both they're happy and the vermipost they're making is rich.

On that note, i've been kinda slurrying my worm food. I'll chop it in my under-the-sink compost bin (that one is strictly for the worms, the compost pile outside gets everything they don't like to eat!) routinely and let it rot a bit for a week or two. I'm now completely avoiding garlic, onion, and potatoes and have phased out all of the bread products that I used to allow (unless i absolutely have to add something dry for moisture purposes and don't want to add more cardboard or leaves). I've been adding my spent kelp meal and alfalfa meal to the slurry as well. The upside of slurrying is a ready-to-eat foodsource that has a good moisture content and can be fed in easy to handle globs. The downsides are (1) difficult to weigh if you like to keep a precise track of this, (2) possibility of anaerobic conditions if you let the slurry sit/rot too long, (3) difficulty discerning what stuff your worms like and eat quickly, and what they don't like--if you're into that sort of thing. I'd recommend waiting until you get a little bit of an idea of your worms' tastes before slurrying.

I'm hoping that by paying closer attention to what goes into my worm bin, I'll have a nice diverse, rich vermicompost with which to topdress and make foliars. I think I'd like to spend a little more time learning about the phyllosphere in general, but I have yet to realize the benefits of a strained ewc+molasses tea foliar, particularly in autoimmune defenses. Looking forward to it!
be easy,
:weed:
 

st0wandgrow

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For sure Doc. I completely agree with you. I keep my kitchen scraps destined for the worm bin in a ziplock Baggie in the freezer. I like it because it keeps the stank in control, and eliminates any gnats/fruit flies (and the eggs they will lay) from hitching a ride in to my worm bins. Lots of coffee grounds, roasted egg shells, rock dusts, and dry amendments get added with the veggie/fruit slurry and man are the plants responding well to it. Never grown a healthier plant in my life. Worms rock! :-)
 

Dr.J20

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For sure Doc. I completely agree with you. I keep my kitchen scraps destined for the worm bin in a ziplock Baggie in the freezer. I like it because it keeps the stank in control, and eliminates any gnats/fruit flies (and the eggs they will lay) from hitching a ride in to my worm bins. Lots of coffee grounds, roasted egg shells, rock dusts, and dry amendments get added with the veggie/fruit slurry and man are the plants responding well to it. Never grown a healthier plant in my life. Worms rock! :-)

I do the same thing with the freezer bags of scrap! I find they've nicely begun to break down once they thaw out. I do tend to strain off any water since i'm paranoid about moisture in the bin, though I did just read that worms can survive for a couple days at 90+% moisture, which means i ought to be less paranoid about it. worms, most certainly, are garden rockstars!
be easy buddy,
:peace: :leaf: :peace:
 

Scroga

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Gday guys,i am wondering how long the shelf life will be with my microbe tea when refrigerated?
 

Dr.J20

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Gday guys,i am wondering how long the shelf life will be with my microbe tea when refrigerated?
i'd say dissolved oxygen is probably more of a limiting factor than temperature. Indeed, i'd rate UV light a greater limiting factor as well. I know that microbial activity will slow down significantly in those low temperatures, but that doesn't prevent them from dying in the low oxygen environment. Per Lewis and Lowenfels, the best recommendation on AACT is 6 hours, but a day or two in the fridge supposedly also keeps your tea "usable." Personally, I just make a single 4 gallon batch and use it up on all the plants going around the house, the garden, and directly on the lawn (though i'm trying to find a concrete sprayer to make the lawn a less daunting task) depending on who needs what. Do you have any other plants that might appreciate a little microbe boost?
 

Scroga

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For sure...but the reason I ask is I'm going to sea for a fortnight.. My garden will be looked after by my partner...she knows nothing about plants..so I was hoping to whip up a fresh batch before I leave and store in fridge in case theres any problems while I'm gone..
 

Scroga

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For sure...but the reason I ask is I'm going to sea for a fortnight.. My garden will be looked after by my partner...she knows nothing about plants..so I was hoping to whip up a fresh batch before I leave and store in fridge in case theres any problems while I'm gone..
 

Dr.J20

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For sure...but the reason I ask is I'm going to sea for a fortnight.. My garden will be looked after by my partner...she knows nothing about plants..so I was hoping to whip up a fresh batch before I leave and store in fridge in case theres any problems while I'm gone..
word, i see. you might just throw an inch or two of ewc down as a topdress and tell her to water with molasses + h20. how often would you normally expect to water in two weeks?
 

Scroga

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The new girls are in DWC they were flipped maybe a week ago? So shouldn't be long till their getting thirsty...
I guess my best option would be too leave the bucket brewing and get her too use half and to it back up with h20 maybe?
 

samisomo

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Can i add crushed meat and chicken bones to ferment them with compost tea and humus?
i mean can it add phosphorous and nutrients to the tea or even make it better?
 

Dr.J20

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time for tea--
4 gal dechlorinated tap water
2C ewc
12mL fish hydrolysate
5 tbsp black strap molasses
1 tbsp hydrated kelp meal paste
brew 42 hours, apply.
 

DANKSWAG

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Hey guys,

Any suggestions on storing and keep nettle leaves for future use....

I have a ton of them everywhere I look and I want to harvest as much as I can and keep them.

Best ways to preserve store nettle leaf?
Can it be effective as a bio stimulate in tea for plants once preserve or store.

I may enough where I can market excess for resell to local organic restaurants but they are bought in season while fresh to cook with.

Ideas, thoughts suggestions?

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DankSwag
 

DANKSWAG

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You would be surprised what it has been used for and your not the first to use it as camouflage...

From:http://www.traditionalherbalist.com/Articles/nettle.html
Before the general introduction of flax into northern countries, the Germanic tribes used nettles to weave a coarse cloth - a practice which survived in Scotland up to the seventeenth century. It was revived in Germany during the First World War, when cotton was in short supply: thousands of kilograms of nettles were collected to make uniforms for the soldiers. Even as late as the Second World War in England, nettles were used to make dye for camouflage nets.

The more I read up on Nettle the more in love I am with this plant...
DankSwag
 

DANKSWAG

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Question about nettles, I've read where people let leaves and stems soak in non areated water left outside to break down outside where it becomes anaerobic and really smelly and you have to dilute it to use it.

So my thinking why not avoid the risk of bringing in harmful bacteria to the soil which could disrupt fungi balance and possible lower levels of aerobic bacteria by breaking down the leaves and stems in aerated water bucket.

After two days I have some slight foam on top very little and a wonderful smelling lightly greenish yellow water that appears to have the bio activators or the appearance of due to how the water color has changed I can't help but think the biology in the plant matter is now in the water and I don't have to wait two weeks and it does not smell. I can just keep adding water and leaves when water color lightens to continue to bring these dynamic bio activators to my soil when watering correct?

Anywise I should probably do a side by one with out the aerated nettle water, one with the anaerobic diluted form and one plain h20.

Unless someone has experience using their nettles this way I'd like to know.

DankSwag
 
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