A proper full melt dry sift tutorial. This time the right way.

MnH

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http://sasquatchglass.com/instagram-posts-help-bust-popular-hash-producers/

Totally safe.

Are there any CLS or oven manufacturers who claim a guaranteed clean product after using their system?

As for doing lbs of fresh material.. umm.. who dry sifts fresh material? It's not exactly ideal. Sure you can do it.. but you are much better off waiting or curing it. Have I run fresh? Sure, it's doable.. but not ideal.

A lb takes me about an hour to run, maybe a little more. That's quicker than you can run a lb of icewax? (most using 5g bags)

It takes 2-3 hours or more to run the bags twice or 3x.. in that span I could easily sift a couple lbs no problem. This isn't for quantity.. dry sifting isn't about quantity, and never was. Does this method produce a good quantity for the quality you get as well? Absolutely.

I have larger screens being made (30x36) that will help on that front as well.. i'm using the normal 20x24's and it's not that bad. If the product is dry and ready to rock it's literally seconds at a time.. not that laborous really.. i'd rather sift than pull bags anyday of the week.
 
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MnH

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Such as? I called them out for claiming they made 'clean meds' and I was correct.. they've never tested yet continue to claim what they do not know.

I just want people to prove what they claim.. is that so bad?
 

Texas(THC)

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there's no need to show you test results
even if there is a trace of hydrocarbons in your eyes its poison

Twitch just said he would get his BHO tested
and you said "no need man"

I LOVE DRY SIFT
but solvent extracts are the future
and one would have to be ignorant not to agree

I understand your concern about people claiming clean meds that are packed full of hydrocarbons and what not

But do you really think this problem wont be solved soon?
 

MnH

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Why are solvent extracts the future? IWE is testing at over 80% and a dry sift just tested 83% total.. how much stronger does it need to be? And is it really worth the dangerous process and knowing it will never be completely clean?

Guess it depends on the person, eh.

Hey i'm the first one to admit i'm a prick sometimes.. but I am not pointing out anything that isn't fact.. someone has to do it.

Lol.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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Such as? I called them out for claiming they made 'clean meds' and I was correct.. they've never tested yet continue to claim what they do not know.

I just want people to prove what they claim.. is that so bad?
There is plenty lab test showing how clean extracts have become.
I really don't understand how you can state the opposite.
The problem with extract is not about residual anymore, at least for professionals.
The question in fact is and what if some of what you clean when you make extract was important to the overall medicine, like the wax membranes that literally are the source of terpenes transformation into cannabinboids????
 

Texas(THC)

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Why are solvent extracts the future? IWE is testing at over 80% and a dry sift just tested 83% total.. how much stronger does it need to be? And is it really worth the dangerous process and knowing it will never be completely clean?

Guess it depends on the person, eh.
you can run very large batches for cheap, and you can remove the waxes, dirt, mold spores, even bacteria
-Daub Marley said it best

and how much stronger does it need to be? 100% if you ask me

also can you prove that "it will never be completely clean"?
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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I disagree Texas, Hashish will always rule. it is simply the purest expression of the plant potential, something that you loose when you dissolve.
Is purity truly quality???
Low quality resin will always be low quality resin doesn't matter how clean you work it or you are a miracle worker!
 

MnH

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Texas you can run large batches other ways as well. To me it seems like people run large amounts of bho because it wouldn't be worth sifting or hashing......

To me that screams a lot of the time... shit quality... I could be wrong, of course.. but as was pointed out, it's a great way to remove mold, bugs, crap, etc.. and it shows I think most of the time.. there are ways to get high quality hash other ways.. but people skip it.

It's one of two things I think.. either someone just looking for money.. or somebody looking to clean up low quality material.. seems like the majority of indoor guys with high quality are making real hash.

Observations of course.
 

MnH

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If you grow your own you can.. but these days you are right.. trim prices are outrageous.. I saw some units of indoor TRIM goin for 4 bills lololol
 

MnH

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There is plenty lab test showing how clean extracts have become.
I really don't understand how you can state the opposite.
The problem with extract is not about residual anymore, at least for professionals.
The question in fact is and what if some of what you clean when you make extract was important to the overall medicine, like the wax membranes that literally are the source of terpenes transformation into cannabinboids????
They are getting cleaner but I guess here is the ultimate question.. would you openly smoke most of it all the time?

I wouldn't. There are maybe.. enough people on one hand i'd consider doing this from.. and that's about it. That's not a lot of people considering how many are supposedly making this stuff 'properly'.. and to my knowledge, not a one of them is an accredited chemist.

If I am missing something on that front, enlighten me somebody. I simply want a real, degree holding chemist to explain what happens when you dissolve trichomes into a petrochemical.. and i've been explained this as well by a degree holding chemist, which is why I am so against it.

You can purge all you want, and the lab might say you're clean.. but I also believe these labs are at most, testing for 30-50 types of chemicals, when in fact god only knows what some people might be using to extract with.. it might show up 0ppm for butane, but that's because somebody used gasoline or kerosene and it's not being tested for.

I look around enough.. you would think there would be some more substantial.. solid threads where all bho makers kinda point to and say hey... go here, read this.. but in the end everyone has their own ideas and methods, which leads me to believe there isn't one proper one to do it yet.

Shrug.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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I most certainly would not smoke any extracts as I mentioned in the article there are precious few professional extractors. I taste appealing extracts with a strong nose but do not like smoking extract in general especially on a nail.
I will be doing a lab test on BHO, Dry sieve and ice water sieve with Beezle by the end of next month most possibly, same than with you DSW, 3 times the same trims for each process.
I am a old school Hashishin and I believe that hashish is the finest expression of Cannabis resin, like wine is for grape.
 

MnH

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I am in 100% complete agreement.

It's why I am such a huge fan of dry sift.. once people get to experience how it can be.. they almost never go back.

As for my sizes, the original setup I showed was a 250u and a 220u or so. I have since changed that up a hair, but that still works. That's basically the sizes b.man is advertising right now.

I've since swapped those to newer sizes that aren't available retail, and they are working much better. Probably going to share those in the very near future in this video.
 
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Texas(THC)

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I disagree Texas, Hashish will always rule. it is simply the purest expression of the plant potential, something that you loose when you dissolve.
Is purity truly quality???
I totally agree I prefer hashish over BHO any day of the week
but this is just our preference
surprisingly enough a lot of people still prefer BHO, those of who probably haven't had quality hash

but im still confident we will be seeing more solvent extracts in the future..
Considering SaybianTv made the first zero ppm hash oil using limonene (LHO)
im sure it is just a matter of time till many extractors are making 0ppm BHO or other solvents

I normally makes dry sift then run the rest with everclear and make edibles
honestly haven't made BHO or dabbed in a couple months, just wanted to argue a bit lol
 

Texas(THC)

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I am in 100% complete agreement.

It's why I am such a huge fan of dry sift.. once people get to experience how it can be.. they almost never go back.

As for my sizes, the original setup I showed was a 250u and a 220u or so. I have since changed that up a hair, but that still works. That's basically the sizes b.man is advertising right now.

I've since swapped those to newer sizes that aren't available retail, and they are working much better. Probably going to share those in the very near future in this video.
how many times have you changed your screen sizes? I know it is for the better but let me know when your done so I can make a order, I would hate to buy the wrong sizes again lol
:peace:
 
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Frenchy Cannoli

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As for my sizes, the original setup I showed was a 250u and a 220u or so. I have since changed that up a hair, but that still works. That's basically the sizes b.man is advertising right now.
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What is the micron size, I am not sure of your "u".
You are a little anal on the size of your mesh.
When separating by micron size, anything above 160 microns and below 45 microns generally has a lot of plant matter in it that is very difficult to separate. 160 microns and over has plant matter larger than the trichome heads. Below 45 microns there is mostly microscopic plant matter or stalk and broken trichomes. Everything in between is the GOLD we are seeking may it be dry sieve or ice water.
It is as simple as that.
 

hyroot

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What is the micron size, I am not sure of your "u".
You are a little anal on the size of your mesh.
When separating by micron size, anything above 160 microns and below 45 microns generally has a lot of plant matter in it that is very difficult to separate. 160 microns and over has plant matter larger than the trichome heads. Below 45 microns there is mostly microscopic plant matter or stalk and broken trichomes. Everything in between is the GOLD we are seeking may it be dry sieve or ice water.
It is as simple as that.

I kind of figured out a technique for cleaning the 25µ with much trial and error for water extract. I let the screen sit at the bottom of the bucket. I spray a bunch. Then pull the bag to bring up and tighten the screen and the resins spread wide and thin on screen. The plant matter stays in a small circle in the center. I collect the resins in a circular fashion around the plant matter. Then I repeat several times. Eventually all the visible plant matter is gone from all the spraying. The 25µ is not as melty. It has a good flavor and still able to dab. When pressed into a slab its just as transparent as the 73µ. It does take about 4 -5 times longer to clean and collect the resins than the other screens do.
 
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