A month of flowering very little bud

Madg420

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also if it helps the cola area that turned brown, the cfl light was actually touching it, due to space and size of plants there are several spots where the cfl lights are actually touching the plants I can't set them up any other way or the plants wont get the light spread they need, can cfl's touching the plants damage them as well?
Could be causing your browning, Take a piece of twine and tie the bud down a little just enough to not touch the bulb. If you have nute burn begin flushing them now, it almost sounds like a deficiency though not a burn. Try feeding them some blooming nutes, you should be feeding with every watering to a schedule.
 

seasmoke

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Gently tie the cola down, as suggested. You don't want the plant touching the light.

The reason you have so much foliage is because of the light. As was said, you're using weak lights, the plant is making up for it by growing many big leaves to capture as much light as it can. Leaves are the solar panels of the plant, removing them doesn't help.(See Uncle Bens "https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html-a good read). Be sure to keep them healthy along with the root structure, and the buds will follow.(It isn't the buds that need the light, its the leaves). If I were you i'd get some 300 wtt cfls. they are between $20-$30 and you WILL have better results. There is a forum on growing with cfls, and you can get so great tips there.

Also,I don't think you've fed them enough. It sounds like it needs nitrogen.
Hope that helps, GL
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
a few leaves of my plants got a lil burned by touching my t5's, which i wouldn't have thought was possible, but it happened.. if the brown area is where it was touching the bulbs, i would say that it got burnt.. although everyone says cfl's don't put out heat, they do.. it is just that they don't put out nearly the amount of heat that any hid bulb does. i would think that if it was nute burn, it wouldn't have taken so long to have shown itself... and by the sounds of the amount of nutes that you used, i don't think that you over did it...
 

Bpayne

Member
yeah its more of a gray area, but the first time I fed them with these nutes, which are jacks classic flowering nutes designed for flowering plants, I gave them too much, like half a tablespoon with way less than a gallon of water, a couple of the plants developed nute burn but it cleared up after a few days, but this time I gave them MUCH less of the nutes in much more water (a whole gallon) and the brown crumbly part that I describe as nute burn came back to some of the leaves but a LOT more this time even part of a leaf fell off and crumbled in my hand and the cola part (with just hairs no bud) that was touching the light is this dull gray now more than brown. So should I feed more nutes? or flush with more water, ?
 

laserbrn

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You must have a way with words sir. I haven't read this thread, but genearlly any thread without pics dies off immediately. I don't know why I needed to share that, but good job. Hope your plants reward you plentifully for your patience.
 

Bpayne

Member
like I said after using less nutes a lot of the leaves turned brown like the whole leaf and crumbled to the touch, should I flush or nute more? also to answer the light question I am using 4 26 watt cfl's(the kind for flowering I forgot the soft white or hard white or whatever type name but I checked when I had them with me and they are right for flowering). so I have 4 26 watt cfls and 2 42 watt cfl's those are the lights, soooooooo flush or more feed that is the question?

ps: I can't believe that in one night so many leaves turned brown and ruined looking like almost to the stems, it's not whole plants just certain leaves, what should I do?
 

laserbrn

Well-Known Member
What you need to do is slow the fuck down. You need to listen. Do what I told you.
Haha, and at some point if you don't want your plants to die you're going to have to show us some pictures. You are going to get a thousand different answers this way and you'll never figure out who to listen to. All well intentioned people, just aimlessly throwing darts based upon your descriptions.
 

AhighPIPER

Active Member
Haha, and at some point if you don't want your plants to die you're going to have to show us some pictures. You are going to get a thousand different answers this way and you'll never figure out who to listen to. All well intentioned people, just aimlessly throwing darts based upon your descriptions.
Well said...
 

Madg420

Active Member
like I said after using less nutes a lot of the leaves turned brown like the whole leaf and crumbled to the touch, should I flush or nute more? also to answer the light question I am using 4 26 watt cfl's(the kind for flowering I forgot the soft white or hard white or whatever type name but I checked when I had them with me and they are right for flowering). so I have 4 26 watt cfls and 2 42 watt cfl's those are the lights, soooooooo flush or more feed that is the question?

ps: I can't believe that in one night so many leaves turned brown and ruined looking like almost to the stems, it's not whole plants just certain leaves, what should I do?
Gently tie the cola down, as suggested. You don't want the plant touching the light.

The reason you have so much foliage is because of the light. As was said, you're using weak lights, the plant is making up for it by growing many big leaves to capture as much light as it can. Leaves are the solar panels of the plant, removing them doesn't help.(See Uncle Bens "https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html-a good read). Be sure to keep them healthy along with the root structure, and the buds will follow.(It isn't the buds that need the light, its the leaves). If I were you i'd get some 300 wtt cfls. they are between $20-$30 and you WILL have better results. There is a forum on growing with cfls, and you can get so great tips there.

Also,I don't think you've fed them enough. It sounds like it needs nitrogen.
Hope that helps, GL
Could be causing your browning, Take a piece of twine and tie the bud down a little just enough to not touch the bulb. If you have nute burn begin flushing them now, it almost sounds like a deficiency though not a burn. Try feeding them some blooming nutes, you should be feeding with every watering to a schedule.
The bloom should have some Nitrogen in it or add a little as well
What you need to do is slow the fuck down. You need to listen. Do what I told you.
Haha, and at some point if you don't want your plants to die you're going to have to show us some pictures. You are going to get a thousand different answers this way and you'll never figure out who to listen to. All well intentioned people, just aimlessly throwing darts based upon your descriptions.
BOLD
 

tom__420

Well-Known Member
Photosynthesis
6co2+ 6h2o + energy from light= c6h12o6 (glucose)

The leaves are there for a reason, please don't pull any off
 

Bpayne

Member
I didn't pull any off, it crumbled in my hand, but okay here's some pictures I took for ya'll today so you can help me diagnose, also a picture of the nutes I'm using like I said these are FLOWERING nutes with Nitrogen too. well here goes
 

Bpayne

Member
last of the pics I can took as you can see damaged top in some and the leaves plus the drooping of the one plant that is showing buds I tried to get a pic of an actual bud growing but it came out kind of blurry it's the pointy thing
 

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