A couple of Scrog question

Thanks in advance.

12-14" is a good height for the screen. I say you should top them, as a general rule you want to top at the 4th or 5th node, no lower than the 3rd. Are they all fem seeds? I'm assuming so if you're going to commit to a space that size and build scrog screens for them.

How many watts are you running?

jakeman12 said:

I am using clones and have 6000w. 10 x 600w lights in air cooled hoods

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oh nice, pictures of this setup? That should be pretty nice once you get it up and going.

No way. Totally underlit. 5 plants under each 600 watt? And if you got financed to grow 50 who financed you since you don't even know how to go about starting? I smell fish for breakfast.

mr2shim said:

oh nice, pictures of this setup? That should be pretty nice once you get it up and going.

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Dude! You, of all people, are buying this boatload of BS?

We barely fit 24 big ass monsters in a room that size. I couldnt imagine 50 unless they were little plants with little yield. Ive never been able to keep something in a 2x2 whilst topping either. If you dont top and string tops instead, then I would say you can fit in the 2x2 on the ground. But hey,if you get em all snuggy and scrogged right, U just might have a beautiful Green ocean across the room. Of course thats my experience. Thats alot of competition for light though. Good Luck on your Grow!

hotrodharley said:

Dude! You, of all people, are buying this boatload of BS?

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LOL, don't ruin my tactics. That's why I asked for pictures, no pictures of a setup that nice is usually bullshit. Or that golden troll answer "I would, but I don't have a camera"

jakeman12 said:

No I don't have pics yet. I am thinking of taking some today and posting them. Just a little nervous about it.

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Yet you weren't nervous to post about it.

why top clones......they are already branching. 10-12 inches for screen height ...........just enough room to work under.

scroglodyte said:

why top clones......they are already branching. 10-12 inches for screen height ...........just enough room to work under.

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Yes, don't top clones.

Very different. Clones take no time to be ready for flower and don't really NEED to be topped. It's a bit counter productive. Not to sound like an ass, but you should do some reading before you start planting. otherwise you're going to be running back to the forms for every little problem.

50 plant scrog in soil? So that's fifty soil buckets under a cage? Good luck managing that.

honestly with a scrog that size you're going to catch hell. That's why everyone or almost everyone who has that many plants with scrog is probably using an undercurrent system. Honestly, you're biting off more than you can chew for a first timer.

jakeman12 said:

Just made my screen tonight and can see that managing 50 plants in this room will be hard to do. Just gonna have to keep my eyes on the prize. It looks to me like the screen in your grow is about 2x3 or 2x4 inches. I got some plastic saftey fencing with 2x2 inch holes. Does this sound ok? I am going to try to post some pics of my room that I took earlier today before I made the screen

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The fencing is fine. I think you have larger concerns, however.

You got a clean setup. I would strongly advise that you cut down your 50 plant count in half and grow the 25 plants twice the size with hydro. You end up with the same yield and you don't have to worry about tending 50 separate soil containers hopelessly entwined in a screen. Under trimming is gonna be a nightmare, so you want to work with fewer plants daisy-chained in a hydro system that you control from a master reservoir. Also, far less chance of disease and pests with hydro. When working with that kind of scale, you gotta be extra careful about that.

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Of course, that's just what I would do if I had all that stuff you already got set up. Your room screams undercurrent.

25, 50, 62, whatever. number of plants doesn't matter. the screen size is what matters. give each plant at least one square foot of screen. it will be a full-time job training such a large screen.

jakeman12 said:

Thanks for the advice. Totally regret not going hydro now after seeing the comments and doing more checking. It's not like I didn't do any research before investing 20k in a room but I decided on growing in dirt early in the process because I had so many people tell me that since it was my first grow dirt was easier and more forgiving. So after deciding on dirt my only next thought was which method has the best yield per plant since I want to keep it legal and am limited in the number of plants I can have.
I can see now that the undercurrent system would be the way to go. I will definately be trying that for my second grow. Unfortunately I do not have the time or the money to switch to undercurrent right now. I will keep you posted on this grow and look forward to any helpful tips

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I really hate it when people say that. I had ONE dirt grow under my belt before I switched to hydro. It wasn't even a good grow, I got like 1oz from two plants. Don't think I'll ever fully go back to dirt. Hydro isn't THAT hard, it's not even hard if you have some sense. I think most people on here(no offense) aren't the brightest apples in the basket.

jakeman12 said:

Thanks for the tip on being underlit. Why so negative. I smell a little jealousy. I financed myself and just want to do it right

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Jealousy? At my age I can smell stuff a lot of folks might not. You know too little and talk too much to people who you have no idea about. You didn't finance shit. Unless you're the son of some rich man and I can't stand that. Grow up hard on the border, kid, and recognize a greenhorn a mile away.

I don't think he is being negative, rather; he is upset at the notion that you neither understand the basic fundamentals of growing cannabis (let alone medical grade), and with NO experience you have made a commitment to medical patients that need medicine for their illness. I have a wasting disorder so I take this seriously. On top of that, it is obvious by your set up, as well as the fact that you have "financed" this for 20k dollars, that you are looking to set up a factory for profit. You probably saw some huge SCROG grows where someone vegged for months and months and pulled a great yield and said to yourself " I can do this x 50 and make a killing"

That is just my take on this whole thing. I am a firm believer that one should master the fundamentals of anything before utilizing expensive technology to aid in a more productive harvest/product/end result.

Baby steps to walking and walking to running..... it is a time tested path to success good luck to you

Looks like someone had second thoughts about posting on this site. Lol.

People with little experience starting large-scale are funny.

If you really want to just grow, then lurk on the site and extrapolate.

You want attention, you don't want it... make up your minds.

mr2shim said:

I think most people on here(no offense) aren't the brightest apples in the basket.

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Why whatever do you mean? Lol.

OK... You Scrog masters... I got a scrog question... would supercropping be a suitable technique to add to a scrog grow? I just hear so much raving around here about the improvement to the bud size that supercropping can produce.... weigh in please?