A/C Question

bseabuds

Member
Hey, just revamped my grow room and have a question about A/C. I grow in WA state and am a legal medical marijuana patient (cancer survivor here, :-P:leaf:).

I am currently running 4000 watts (3 1000 W HPS + 1 1000 W MH) in an airtight and insulated (R-19) room. The room dimensions are (approx.) 6' (W) x 13' (L) x 7' (H).
I am running CO2 out of a 20 lb. tank. The walls are white and the floor is reflective, covered in space blankets.

My problem is this:

I have installed a 24,000 Btu mini-split air-conditioner. The HVAC installer, when he saw the room, said right away that the unit was way too big and that I would guarantee have problems with the unit in the future. He admitted that he did not know anything about growing, or the lights used and the heat they produce. Still, the lights are only on for 12 hours a day. His concern is legitimate for the 12 hours they are off.

Now, I went with a 24,000 Btu mini-split for efficiency, and based on the approximate calculation of 3.414 Btu's per 1 watt of heat. And I gave myself a bit extra because I plan on adding to the room two more 400 W HPS lights in the near future.

So, to reiterate, the A/C unit is WAY too big for the space I am cooling WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE OFF. When the lights are on I am not having any problems. But in the off-hours, the A/C unit is turning on, then turning off, then turning on, then turning off, etc. etc. etc. This is NOT GOOD for the unit. I have considered running it on a timer--the mini-split has a built-in timer that would allow me to flip it on say, ten minutes before lights on, and power it off just after dark; but the problem with that is that the temperatures will run high during the day (especially now in the summer). So, I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions--also (please, say it isn't so!!!) if, like the HVAC installer said, I overshot with a 24,000 Btu unit. (He recommended a 9,000 Btu unit, which to me seemed laughable given the amount of heat the lights produce.)

Anyway, much thanks for any answers in advance. Hope to find a solution. Now that the remodel is done, I can't wait to get back to work.
 

fir3dragon

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i use a 10k btw window unit in a bedroom with my 400w cooltube in the closet. im fine. temps atre 76 with lights on and 67 with em off.i got a cooltube too
 

superstoner1

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can you change the differential temp? meaning how far from your set temp it turns off and on. this was a reason i went with the inverter minisplit, it slows downs instead of shutting off and saves the weaar and tear.
 

fir3dragon

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can you change the differential temp? meaning how far from your set temp it turns off and on. this was a reason i went with the inverter minisplit, it slows downs instead of shutting off and saves the weaar and tear.

i dont get what you mean. i can turn it on different cooling levels and it will shut the compressor off when its whatever temp it gets to. i use mine on max cool and the compressor kicks off and on every now and then if you mean a digital temp display then no.
 

Castor Troy

Member
he means, on reg thermostats(digital) you can set your setpoint at say 70. you can adjust the range by +/- 2 or 4 or 6 and so on. so it would cycle between 69 and 71, or 68 and 72. the ductless splits, depending on make, dont have this feature. i would not worry about over sizing the unit. just dont have it set too low (below 69/68) AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD CONDENSATE PUMP, or its piped to a drain directly. those bastards run a very low temp differential and pull moisture out of the air like crazy. compressors these days are built very well, these units go through hell typically in computer server rooms and what not. dont be overly concerned on the starting and stopping. they usually also have an anti short cycle delay, again, depending on make. fujitsu, samsung, lg are good quality brands.
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
how about not running it on max? try a slower fan speed. the less it stops and starts the less energy wasted.
 

bseabuds

Member
Wow, thanks for all the quick input. Okay, so I am running air-cooled hoods. And mine is also an inverter mini-split, so if I gather what you're saying, I should try raising the differential (right now I am set at 76) to allow for a little more fluctuation in temp?
Also, it is reassuring to know that these units are built so tough. The compressor is made by Toshiba--I understand Mitsubishi is number one for A/C compressors and units but I got a pretty good deal on mine. I suppose I'll find out soon enough if it paid to take the short-cut.
And I am not running it on Max; I have it in the sleep (energy conserve) mode.
 
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