Because nothing else can sound like a bomb?
9/11 what do you think?
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Your video is a small amount of jet fuel in an open space as part of a carefully controlled training exercise. I don't know why you would expect a horrific plane crash to be comparable.
Fuel poured down 1000 feet of elevator shaft, compressed itself and mixed with air, then pressurized and BLEW UP at the bottom? People are talking about EXPLOSIONS are they not? Oh wait, before you say it, those people are obviously not explosion experts and probably thought the sound of burning jet fuel might have SOUNDED like an explosion, and the shaking walls and quivering walls were obviously a mass delusion, cuz you know how much EXPLOSIVE force burning fuel in open air has right?
How much? You must have some kind of link that shows JP5 exploding in free air right? Somewhere?
Backpeddle or Dance, which will it be I wonder?
No one's ignoring it, it's already been addressed. First of all, it was a totally untested claim, since a commercial airliner had never hit a building of that design--I find your absolute faith peculiar considering that the design originated in the 1960s, with paper, pencils, and calculators, not sophisticated computer modeling. Second, a chief engineer of the building said that the plane impact he considered in the design was an inadvertent strike at low speeds. This is not the 9/11 scenario. Third, the contradictory claim in a document that the buildings were designed to withstand a 600 mph impact has zero backing. That's the only reference we have and it's all we know about the claim--we don't have any evidence supporting it.
As for withstanding temperatures: it's easier when crucial core columns haven't been damaged, which has been the case in every other building fire, since none of those fires resulted from plane impacts that damaged the core. The problem isn't just the fire, it's already damaged core columns having to support larger loads.
So you pull a quote from that page that says "gasoline" and tell us that no, jet fuel actually smells like kerosene. I give you five quotes from the same page describing the smell as kerosene and now you're telling me that all five people didn't know what they were talking about. Considering that some of the quotes I gave you come from firefighters--after you just posted a video of firefighters training with jet fuel--this dismissal is pitiful.
It's actually the other way around.
Why are you referencing core columns now? Your argument has always been that the perimeter WALLS did all holding up of the building and the core was just some stairs and an elevator? What proof do you have that core columns are even damaged to the extent that the entire floor would just heave itself into its own foot print as if all the core had been simultaneously removed all the way down?
If jet fuel wasn't the source, what was the source of the explosive force coming through the elevator shafts? I would love to hear your theory (really).
That was never my argument and you know it. The core and outside walls were both essential elements; the buildings could not stand unless both elements were intact. If you removed the core, the building would collapse; if you removed the outside walls, the building would collapse.
The evidence of core damage comes from comprehensive simulations of the plane impacts into the building.
nope. ...........It's actually the other way around.
Well of course that isn't your argument NOW. You would look like a complete idiot now to keep your original argument that the walls did all the load bearing.
Dance, backpedal, spin.
LOL got it all hinged on a model eh? Oh not just any ordinary model, but a really "Comprehensive" one at that. Get serious, when you input into the model that a plane hit the building and the building pancaked, what do you think the model is going to spit out? Too much cranberry sauce was used?
Ummm Explosives?
I bet you didn't know this, but explosives sound like bombs and explosives when they go off. They can rip elevator doors off and cause 560,000 tons of building to shake. Things that fuel in open air cannot do.
Doer
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I see, so they secretly set up tons of explosives over the weekend.
Doer
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The fuel ignited the instant thermite brew, found and publish by a Dutch team, as well. It ignited along with vaporized plastic and paint.
It was long, long miilseconds before the fuel ignited. The gas volatiles splashed into the fat, plastic and carpet etc, is not addressed in your logic.
No one is saying the f/a explosion did any extensive structural damage. The floors sagged and gave way from above, due to the heat of the plastics and people fat fire.
Do you have any idea what temperature people fat and plastic vapor will burn? No.
You are taking about brush fires and open fuel in a field, not up in the wind with high temp. plastics and godall everything else. Do you know the temp that Nylon clothing produces when it burns.
Can you even imagine the first 100 milliseconds? The first one who's eyes went wide? The first fat in the fire?
Add new paper and plastic every time a floor gives way. Soon the weight of all those floors above blew out the walls.
Tube structure is now a vertical pile of falling panels, bursting concrete columns, etc. It blew itself apart floor by floor. I saw it. Straight Down.
You are all ignoring most of the fuel sources. Good jobs....not.
Doer
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OK straight down. If the diabloical govt did this with demo charges. My god boys, they could have drapped them all over lower Manhattan. It don't make sense.
An in site vertical drop is only done if you are trying to preserve as much as possible from damage. It doesn't make sense. I would have had those towers in both rivers. So, the govt went through all the trouble but still fucked up?
Foul Ball.
An in site vertical drop is only done if you are trying to preserve as much as possible from damage. It doesn't make sense. I would have had those towers in both rivers. So, the govt went through all the trouble but still fucked up?
Foul Ball.
Doer
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Saw that movie 3 times lmao. Pissed me da hell off...showed it to evryone who would listen. Theres even more out there like Zeitgeist.....I'm jus too hi to remember their names lol. U should look em up tho.....while u still can
Don't worry, this Religion is just getting started.
bigriddik
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Lmao. Anybody ever c a planned demolition? No? Well u saw one on 9/11. The building was actually designed to survive just such an impact. The designers knew it was tall enough to be hit so it was actually built to withstand that. It is virtually impossible for a structure like that to pancake at that speed without first removing the floors below....via thermite loaded explosives. Which is why the streets ran with molten metal weeks later. That's the only way to melt steel! Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough! No way.
Mike Young
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Yeah, I suggest our big-brained friends look into conservation of energy & conservation of momentum. Those are scientific terms, so take your time. 110 story building falling at free-fall speed (10 seconds) meets ZERO resistance on the way down, therefor is not subject to these LAWS. Who the conspiracy theorist? Really!