67% of Americans want to ban assault weapons

Fogdog said:

LOL,




Translation:

• Global climate change is deliberate
• The wealthy are hiding alien technology from the masses. @ClueBot , is it the wealthy Jews, maybe the same Jewish cabal identified in the Protocols of Zion who are guilty of this?
• They will abandon earth and leave us all to die except for a few slaves that they take with them.

Uhhh yeah

At least he got the laughing emoji right.

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Lemming extrapolations.
Global climate change may or may not be deliberate, what is deliberate is the orchestrated move to make overpopulation control mainstream and "cool". If a couple million people died on the coastlines it wouldn't go against a greater evils long term goals.

Why do you think aliens made this tech? We are fucking brilliant creatures man take pride.

Jewish people are dealing with the same reality as you or I, we all play a role in the greater cause. Your instant reaction to place yourself in a separate camp than me is a perfect example of a person who has been conditioned to be divisive and ultimately further somonone else's agenda.

DAMN IT! Who the fuck keeps leaking my Illuminati secrets on YouTube?

ClueBot said:

Lemming extrapolations.
Global climate change may or may not be deliberate, what is deliberate is the orchestrated move to make overpopulation control mainstream and "cool". If a couple million people died on the coastlines it wouldn't go against a greater evils long term goals.

Why do you think aliens made this tech? We are fucking brilliant creatures man take pride.

Jewish people are dealing with the same reality as you or I, we all play a role in the greater cause. Your instant reaction to place yourself in a separate camp than me is a perfect example of a person who has been conditioned to be divisive and ultimately further somonone else's agenda.

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Oh, we are in a separate camp. I was reaching when I told you that I smelled a protocol of zion pile and antizionism in your post. If I'm wrong about that I do apologize.

On the other hand, LOL your strawdog "why do you think aliens made this tech?" You are the one who talked about aliens, not I.

At our current level of tech -- and there isn't anything else -- any colony sent into space would be doomed. Our biology is too intricately linked to earth and we don't completely understand all of it. Our tech isn't tested for that kind of mission. We don't yet know how to permanently sustain healthy human life in space.

Space colonization isn't impossible. I wish we could unite with other nations to figure out how to do it safely. It's a loftier goal than figuring out the design of the next great product like the smart phone was ten years ago and am disappointed that mankind isn't already ready to begin colonizing space. Your theory that the wealthy are preparing to abandon the masses to leave earth in space ships is what I'm laughing at you over.

The question is does ingesting dmt make the user hallucinate something that isn’t there or does it show another level of reality outside of our normal perception?

zeddd said:

The question is does ingesting dmt make the user hallucinate something that isn’t there or does it show another level of reality outside of our normal perception?

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Down through history and perhaps before then, people have been going into trances through chemical and non-chemical means who describe the same powerful mystical experience.

I'm skeptical that this is exploration of alternate reality and think instead iit s a phenomenon of how our meat brains function. I will say that the people who talk about it say they had very powerful mystical experiences. Some say they felt the presence of god. Some say they were cured of addiction. My mother had a near death experience when she nearly bled to death after giving birth to her first born. She described feeling the presence of god too. She said she didn't want to come back. Our meat brains are capable of incredible things so I'm not knocking what is happening.

As I said in an earlier post, peyote didn't help a school classmate with her studies in biochemistry. So there is that.

dmt isn't for everyone, I've personally seen a lot of people try it, never had any addictions cured though.

Its all in your head.... But so is this reality though if you think about it.

If it's a portal to other places, I could believe it from what I've seen, these places aren't anything like our world and may only be in our heads, but by no means does that mean they aren't real, depends on what you consider reality.

The shapes are what get me... It's a sacred geometry thing, we come from a 2d non physical plane, we thrive to experience all that is physical.

I'm not saying anyone should try, for your own safety don't do it lol.

My advice to anyone who does, close your eyes and relax. Get ready for the ride of a lifetime, it will be over in 10-15.

I once saw a friend take a hit, he tripped hard for a good 10 then when he came back, he looked into my eyes and smiled and said "I died and came back to life and it was really cool" another one started crying and said thank you to a friend, then he asked where she went (the purple girl in the trip). It's these things that make you wonder what the fuck.

First time I had cubensis I felt like I was stuck in my body and was about to burst into something more, I was right, I would've exploded into pure thought had I taken any more than an 1/8 lol.

Dmt is for atheists, I don't recommend but if I did...

Fogdog said:

Oh, we are in a separate camp. I was reaching when I told you that I smelled a protocol of zion pile and antizionism in your post. If I'm wrong about that I do apologize.

On the other hand, LOL your strawdog "why do you think aliens made this tech?" You are the one who talked about aliens, not I.

At our current level of tech -- and there isn't anything else -- any colony sent into space would be doomed. Our biology is too intricately linked to earth and we don't completely understand all of it. Our tech isn't tested for that kind of mission. We don't yet know how to permanently sustain healthy human life in space.

Space colonization isn't impossible. I wish we could unite with other nations to figure out how to do it safely. It's a loftier goal than figuring out the design of the next great product like the smart phone was ten years ago and am disappointed that mankind isn't already ready to begin colonizing space. Your theory that the wealthy are preparing to abandon the masses to leave earth in space ships is what I'm laughing at you over.

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No, but the wealthy are building heavily defended living spaces here on Earth to live in while civilisation collapses.

It's just as stupid and unsustainable but it isn't science fiction. What's worse is the false sense of security it gives them to think they can escape consequences of all the awful things they do.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/doomsday-luxury-bunkers/index.html

ttystikk said:

No, but the wealthy are building heavily defended living spaces here on Earth to live in while civilisation collapses.

It's just as stupid and unsustainable but it isn't science fiction. What's worse is the false sense of security it gives them to think they can escape consequences of all the awful things they do.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/doomsday-luxury-bunkers/index.html

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OK

This is one of the reasons we need to support Democrats.

Fogdog said:

OK

This is one of the reasons we need to support Democrats.

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Why would rich people building themselves a luxery shelter have anything to do with their political views?

The rich democrats are just like the rich everyone else. Once you have a certain level of money you are indoctrinated into the elites. You can pretty much do as you want. And it is a much better existence.

And they don’t have to help the rest of us if they don’t want to. The world operates on money. Not equality.

But that is the reward of success. Only the jealous would hate them for it.

Fogdog said:

OK

This is one of the reasons we need to support Democrats.

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They're part of the problem. Voting for them has been demonstrated to perpetuate the problems, not solve them.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Why would rich people building themselves a luxery shelter have anything to do with their political views?

The rich democrats are just like the rich everyone else. Once you have a certain level of money you are indoctrinated into the elites. You can pretty much do as you want. And it is a much better existence.

And they don’t have to help the rest of us if they don’t want to. The world operates on money. Not equality.

But that is the reward of success. Only the jealous would hate them for it.

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What they do with their money affects us all. Actions have consequences and no matter how rich they are, people must be held accountable for them.

Your line of reasoning would have them getting away with murder, just because they're rich.

ttystikk said:

What they do with their money affects us all. Actions have consequences and no matter how rich they are, people must be held accountable for them.

Your line of reasoning would have them getting away with murder, just because they're rich.

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Welcome to the real world man. It doesn’t get any better than this. It all just repeats a little worse each cycle til we blow it up or all come to an agreement.

Which do you think will happen first?

If you were rich and successful you might feel differently than you do now. I know I did.

I like that we are not like a socialist country. I don’t want the government more involved. We should all take responsibility and act when appropriate. Few do. Even those chosen for the jobs look the other way to pretend to make it easier for themselves.

I don’t agree with you about the distribution of wealth. You want a political Robin Hood. It is not realistic. And most don’t deserve the help they get already. I live in an area that is very depressed. But the good people manage and take care of themselves and their families better than most from the rich neighborhoods I grew up in.

The others. Without saying more. They don’t want to work for it.

And I don’t want to punish all the rich for being successful. We are supposed to work for our own slice. I’m working on mine again. And if I fail. I will try again.

ttystikk said:

They're part of the problem. Voting for them has been demonstrated to perpetuate the problems, not solve them.

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My representatives do in fact support universal health care coverage, repeal of CU, increased gun regulation, and opposed the tax cut for the wealthy also science and support measures to reduce carbon emissions. They aren't perfect because they support some measures for logging that environmental groups oppose and I'm a member of that coalition. Am I supposed to vote them out?

It's too bad Colorado Democratic Party voters aren't in alignment with you and selected people you don't like. I lived in Idaho for about a decade so I know how it felt. That said, I fail to see how a protest vote for Republicans would achieve your ends.

You see, tty, we live in a democracy where people don't always vote the same. I know you'd like to force everybody to do what you say, but that would not be a democracy.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Welcome to the real world man. It doesn’t get any better than this. It all just repeats a little worse each cycle til we blow it up or all come to an agreement.

Which do you think will happen first?

If you were rich and successful you might feel differently than you do now. I know I did.

I like that we are not like a socialist country. I don’t want the government more involved. We should all take responsibility and act when appropriate. Few do. Even those chosen for the jobs look the other way to pretend to make it easier for themselves.

I don’t agree with you about the distribution of wealth. You want a political Robin Hood. It is not realistic. And most don’t deserve the help they get already. I live in an area that is very depressed. But the good people manage and take care of themselves and their families better than most from the rich neighborhoods I grew up in.

The others. Without saying more. They don’t want to work for it.

And I don’t want to punish all the rich for being successful. We are supposed to work for our own slice. I’m working on mine again. And if I fail. I will try again.

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We will agree to disagree, then.

Fogdog said:

My representatives do in fact support universal health care coverage, repeal of CU, increased gun regulation, and opposed the tax cut for the wealthy also science and support measures to reduce carbon emissions. They aren't perfect because they support some measures for logging that environmental groups oppose and I'm a member of that coalition. Am I supposed to vote them out?

It's too bad Colorado Democratic Party voters aren't in alignment with you and selected people you don't like. I lived in Idaho for about a decade so I know how it felt. That said, I fail to see how a protest vote for Republicans would achieve your ends.

You see, tty, we live in a democracy where people don't always vote the same. I know you'd like to force everybody to do what you say, but that would not be a democracy.

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I have never advocated for forcing people to do what I want, that's yet another manufactured line from your fevered imagination.

I'm suggesting a different course than the one that got us where we are today.

You suggest more of the same will somehow make things different.

We disagree. I can live with that but my ideas seem deeply threatening to you, to the point where you feel the need to fabricate stories and spew hatred.

I wish I was wrong, I really do. It would be much easier to go along with the lemmings. Unfortunately I'm not wrong and I can either warn those willing to listen or remain quiet while watching the trainwreck.

If you're not willing to listen that's entirely up to you.

ttystikk said:

We will agree to disagree, then.

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Yes. Fair enough. Wish some others here understood that concept.

ttystikk said:

I have never advocated for forcing people to do what I want, that's yet another manufactured line from your fevered imagination.

I'm suggesting a different course than the one that got us where we are today.

You suggest more of the same will somehow make things different.

We disagree. I can live with that but my ideas seem deeply threatening to you, to the point where you feel the need to fabricate stories and spew hatred.

I wish I was wrong, I really do. It would be much easier to go along with the lemmings. Unfortunately I'm not wrong and I can either warn those willing to listen or remain quiet while watching the trainwreck.

If you're not willing to listen that's entirely up to you.

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I fully agree with more of the same never making things different. And that is all anyone is doing. Hence history repeating itself.

Conceptually I agree with your premise but realistically I don’t expect much change.

MichiganMedGrower said:

I fully agree with more of the same never making things different. And that is all anyone is doing. Hence history repeating itself.

Conceptually I agree with your premise but realistically I don’t expect much change.

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Things will change when circumstances force them to.

Forward thinking people can anticipate the consequences and suggest changes but it's up to society to make them. In our case the elites have decided they like it this way and don't care about those consequences and most of the rest of society has abdicated any responsibility for trying to effect change.

This train is going off the bridge, it's only a matter of time.

Fogdog said:

OK

This is one of the reasons we need to support Democrats.

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Let's not forget about the evaporation that takes place during "trickle down" that makes this such a great nation.

You too can be safe and reckless at the same time.

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If you care about your loved ones, provide them the security they deserve.

ttystikk said:

I have never advocated for forcing people to do what I want, that's yet another manufactured line from your fevered imagination.

I'm suggesting a different course than the one that got us where we are today.

You suggest more of the same will somehow make things different.

We disagree. I can live with that but my ideas seem deeply threatening to you, to the point where you feel the need to fabricate stories and spew hatred.

I wish I was wrong, I really do. It would be much easier to go along with the lemmings. Unfortunately I'm not wrong and I can either warn those willing to listen or remain quiet while watching the trainwreck.

If you're not willing to listen that's entirely up to you.

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blah blah damn Democrats, then you post obviously propaganda bs.

I merely point out that Bennet is your problem, not mine because I don't live in Colorado. I don't presume to insist that other people in different states vote like me. The country is changing. There is movement of consensus to the left. We'll see how much in November. It's my guess that the movement will be significant but disappointing to progressive liberals. Not because damn Democrats but because a lot people are more conservative than you or I wouldd like them to be. There is movement but also resistance to change. Yet you scream corruption and quote obvious propaganda as if your cry were somehow useful or even factual.

Such as that shitty article you posted form naked capitalism. 12 Democrats voted with 52 Republicans to roll back banking reform. Something like 36 Democrats voted against it. The headline of that article claimed Warren slammed Democrats, which she did not do, she slammed the Democrats who sided with Republicans. You bought the propaganda hook line and sinker. The fault -- the entire fault if you want to blame any political party for that bill -- lies with Republicans.

I object to your nearly continuous stream of right wing propaganda that you post.