600w Og Kush Indoor Soil

I stumbled in this thread at a great time. Im near harvest and was curious of some other quick dry methods. im trying the toaster tonight!

smokey, GREAT, GREAT grow.

smokeymcpotterton said:

Well the toaster definitely took me a lot longer, it took me like 7 or 8 cycles before I got smart and broke the nug up into smaller pieces, b/c the inside was not cooking. But once it finally did finish, it definitely has a much, MUCH, smoother taste and hit and burn then when I use the microwave. I'm going to go try to buy a 20$ 8th of some bombass shake I can get at my local club to try to hold me over, b/c seriously I've already cut off like almost 10 buds of the same or slightly bigger/smaller size then the ones in the pics previously shown; it's not good lol I'm taking all my results!

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Yes the toaster toasts popcorn buds quick... any bud of any real density is going to take longer. My toaster also had a 'defrost' button on it that makes it toast longer, too. But yes it's definitely better and closer to normal bud than microwave's probably gonna be... and i wouldn't trust the microwave not to destroy some thc since it cooks from inside out. The heat from the toaster should more evenly activate the thc as well as it dries.

So as an experiment, I left the shrubs of the plants in the dark closet w/ no disturbing for over a month, and when I came back in a month later the buds that were still on the plant were perfectly dried, cured, and smell absolutely danky. Even better then my chopped/dried/cured colas. My buddies are all raving about the stuff that i'm cutting "right off the plant" from my closet (dried on the stalk pretty much).

So if anyone hasn't tried this yet, definitely give it a try. I'm getting ovations from all my buddies saying that any grows I ever do in the future to only do this with them, to never "chop" any of it down again, to just let it all dry/cure on the plant in the dark closet.

Good stuff!

Edit: Just to clarify, even though these buds are much smaller (the biggest of them being only like 1 gram buds) because they literally were the bottom of the plant, my friends are going nuts and trying to hoard as much of it as they can, even more then the big 8th-1/4 gram nugs which as good as they were were not nearly as stinky/smooth smoke as these little treasure nuggets. Hopefully this explains just how significant a difference there is between my experiment and the 'official' way to do it (chop/air dry/jar cure).

That's hilarious! I'm not sure right now I have the space to put plants in the dark for a month, but I'm going to keep it in mind for when I do. It makes sense that it would work. No difference in potency?

smokeymcpotterton said:

So as an experiment, I left the shrubs of the plants in the dark closet w/ no disturbing for over a month, and when I came back in a month later the buds that were still on the plant were perfectly dried, cured, and smell absolutely danky. Even better then my chopped/dried/cured colas. My buddies are all raving about the stuff that i'm cutting "right off the plant" from my closet (dried on the stalk pretty much).

So if anyone hasn't tried this yet, definitely give it a try. I'm getting ovations from all my buddies saying that any grows I ever do in the future to only do this with them, to never "chop" any of it down again, to just let it all dry/cure on the plant in the dark closet.

Good stuff!

Edit: Just to clarify, even though these buds are much smaller (the biggest of them being only like 1 gram buds) because they literally were the bottom of the plant, my friends are going nuts and trying to hoard as much of it as they can, even more then the big 8th-1/4 gram nugs which as good as they were were not nearly as stinky/smooth smoke as these little treasure nuggets. Hopefully this explains just how significant a difference there is between my experiment and the 'official' way to do it (chop/air dry/jar cure).

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I'd be interested to see how the trichomes responded to that drying method. My fear would be over-mature and a more narcotic sleepy time effect. I've done what you're talking about to a degree, nothing like what you're trying and the results I got were buds that were fit for bedtime and that's about it lol.

They are pretty potent, but so were the other ones as well that I did cut down, however I would say that these are much smoother smoke and more evenly burning. It is not as much of a creeper as the other batch was, so I would say that the creep effect was minimized, probably as a result of more maturation of the trichromes, like you were saying Shwag. It's not too overpowering at all though, and I do try to stay away from that kind of heavy hitting couch lock type of stuff, so I do know what you mean, but yeah this is not like that, though I will say because of the smoothness I get higher in less hits because I can take bigger hits, like one or two fat ones instead of two or three slightly less but still fat ones that made me cough just a little more, the other stuff was bomb too don't get me wrong lolz.

I have to say also, the whole reason why I even tried this, is because I read a post somewhere else on this site that somebody said a friend of theres does that with his entire grow room, that he just closes the door shuts off the light/vents/everything and opens it up like a month later and the poster said that the guy has "some of the best stuff in town". So after I read that, is when I got the idea to try it, months ago though before I even grew this batch.

It would seem like there would be a strong potential for mold if there's no ventilation at all.

well my closet isn't exactly an air tight environment, or else I would worry too about mold. I've cut all of the buds off and jarred them up as of about a week ago, b/c they were at the dryness I wanted them to stay.

But yeah, no mold, just super shiny buds. But very small air flow can get in the cracks between my closet door/floor and between the two "slider" type doors etc. But no fan was on or anything.

smokeymcpotterton said:

I have to say also, the whole reason why I even tried this, is because I read a post somewhere else on this site that somebody said a friend of theres does that with his entire grow room, that he just closes the door shuts off the light/vents/everything and opens it up like a month later and the poster said that the guy has "some of the best stuff in town". So after I read that, is when I got the idea to try it, months ago though before I even grew this batch.

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Sounds stupid. So he pretty much wastes a month time worth of growing to do an improper cure?

Ive tried about 10 different methods of curing, from dry ice, to drowning the plant, to regular old air curing. Ive even tried the "leave your plant to die" method. I've found that people like to mis-attribute the final product to a specific type of curing, even though every process tries to do the same thing: convert chlorophyll and other plant chemicals into starches and sugars.

For example, the "leave your plant alone" method might seem like it produces a better taste than the old air-cure method. This is a fallacy. Most people air-cure way too fast, because they have no way of controlling the humidity. This causes their bud to have higher chlorophyll content, which makes their bud taste spicier and harsher (some people think its "more potent". Its not. Trust me.) If you leave your plant alone, it will cure slower because of the moisture in the soil, but this isnt exactly the best way to cure. You have a higher probability of insects, and mold developing.

Like ive said before, most people cure way too fast. I cure the following way:
1. Cut stem at base
2. Put the chopped plant into a vase and let sit for about 10-24 hrs (this draws water up into the plant, and allows for a longer cure and much smoother smoke)
3. Leaving ALL leaves on, hang the entire plant upside down in a dark room, humidity set at 65 (if you have higher humidity, you could chop the plant up into smaller sections to reduce the risk of mold)
4. After about a week, when the bud is dry (but not completely dry) can it.
5. Open the can for about 4 hrs every day until you reach your specified water content (usually about 3-5%)
6. Let the canned weed sit for 1-2 months. At this point, your weed should taste smooth and hit hard. Trust me, wait at least a month before you smoke the weed. It will taste and smoke completely different than canned weed thats only been canned for a week.

Other notable methods of curing involve fermentation, which gives a much more powerful taste. You need a LOT of bud though, probably about 2 pounds minimum. Dry ice/freeze curing also works, but IMO produces about the same results as a good air cure.

What about Flushing with Carboload?