4x8 or 5x9 Gorilla Tent and Yield?

Where are you planning on venting the tent? Outside or inside the grow room?
I plan on venting the tent into the grow room and circulating the air out of the room with a fan. I've got an idea in the works for modifying the ceiling vent to accept an 8" hose and blow the exhaust into the attic. As much as I would like a Gavita mainly because of the footprint, I am favoring the LEC 630W for wattage draw and heat.

Unfortunately, being that the LEC 630W will have a 4x4 footprint.......Would that cause me problems with lighting in a 5x5 tent setup???
 

462Juvat

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Venting into the attic is a bad idea. Attics are a cold space buffer for your home in the winter and warm space buffer for hotter climates. In colder climates it will cause snow to melt then freeze again under the shingles ruining a roof.

Police also stumble upon growers through the use of FLIR. Say they have a helo out looking for a bad guy as we have all seen on TV. A grow house without proper heat management lights up like it's a neon beacon. Grows vented to the attic makes it stand out even more.
 

GangusKush

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As a medical patient in California, you can grow as much as you medically need in 100 sq ft that's a 10x10 room, if you go over that 10x10 you need permits or a count and space bump from a doctor, if medical laws are similar in other states to California you shouldn't have a problem at all, not to mention it very hard to process a warrant for cannabis related busts these day, can't search due to smell, power,and gardening trash in Cali, just watch that traffic if you selling!!And compost your left overs
 
Venting into the attic is a bad idea. Attics are a cold space buffer for your home in the winter and warm space buffer for hotter climates. In colder climates it will cause snow to melt then freeze again under the shingles ruining a roof.

Police also stumble upon growers through the use of FLIR. Say they have a helo out looking for a bad guy as we have all seen on TV. A grow house without proper heat management lights up like it's a neon beacon. Grows vented to the attic makes it stand out even more.
Thanks for the heads up. So it would be better to vent the exhaust into the attic and directly out of an attic vent?
 
I'd like to give you my input and personal findings considering I was much like yourself when starting out... hoping for pounds out of my first go around lol
 
I've got some good name beans but still gathering equipment and supplies right now. I will be getting a 5x5 tent within the next couple of weeks, and should have all I need by July.

I work a lot and will not be around to monitor temperatures religiously, which is why I have decided on the LEC 630W. Rather have cooler temps than 90+ temps if anything happens while I am away

Hell yeah, Give me your thoughts...
 
I am looking into getting the Hurricane 16" wall mount fan for the 5x5 tent. Would that type of fan be sufficient for the area it will be pushing air in???

Also, I am having trouble finding a good timer for the LEC 630w fixture. I prefer digital, but am interested in any feedback. What timers are good for fixtures?

I am thinking I need a timer for the inline fan, lights, and the circulation fan in the tent. What timers do you recommend or use?????
 
You really don't need all this equipment right off ... just good genetics some cfls a couple little fans .... and your gonna have a couple months to start acquiring other things but honestly all your gonna need is a good light to flower with and I would go for a 600hps ... I paid like 200 for my first set and it worked awesome..... all I had for cooling was a couple house fans one for canopy and one for light heat... I also had just a dryer vent duct from the window with a little computer fan blowing cool fresh air inside my diy cab which was the size of a 3x4x6 rent.. get your first couple runs down before you go buy all kinds of fancy grow stuff lol ... just my input man ... and yes research is great but it's nothing until you do it and see for yourself... good luck bro and have fun but be careful cause it will consume your life lol which isn't a bad thing
 
You really don't need all this equipment right off ... just good genetics some cfls a couple little fans .... and your gonna have a couple months to start acquiring other things but honestly all your gonna need is a good light to flower with and I would go for a 600hps ... I paid like 200 for my first set and it worked awesome..... all I had for cooling was a couple house fans one for canopy and one for light heat... I also had just a dryer vent duct from the window with a little computer fan blowing cool fresh air inside my diy cab which was the size of a 3x4x6 rent.. get your first couple runs down before you go buy all kinds of fancy grow stuff lol ... just my input man ... and yes research is great but it's nothing until you do it and see for yourself... good luck bro and have fun but be careful cause it will consume your life lol which isn't a bad thing
OK. Yeah, the textbook(theory) is completely different from the real world of things. All I am trying to gather for the initial startup is the tent, inline fan, filter, and bare essentials. I have a T5 to start the veg with, but want to use it as little as possible; read that T5's lack intensity and prevents root system from developing as it should during veg. Which reduces flower size upon final harvest. Thanks for the input, I know I'll be growing more than once, so I am trying to accomplish one investment rather than having to upgrade later. Not trying to be hard headed, but I am stuck on LEC's.
 

Rider509

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ProAmateur, to answer your question about timers: it has been noted many times that for light control the mechanical make/break timers are preferable to digital timers due to the later's tendency to allow a very small current to pass when "off". Some dimmers behave badly under those conditions. I have no personal experience but recall reading about problems with digital on/off timers and lighting drivers. Just something more for you to research!

And for what it's worth, I think you're doing it right. Sooo many people will pop a few seeds and then they're here asking for help and needing to be spoon fed.
 
Thanks for the info. I have came across the Titan Controls Apollo 4 Inline Timer for the fixture since my question regarding timers. What you stated earlier; based on your knowledge, you wouldn't recommend a digital timer for inline/circulation fans correct? A question I felt needed to be asked since I have been looking at digi's for that type of equipment. I'll definitely read into it when I get the chance.

Thanks again, I don't plan on popping beans until I have everything in place. Premature bean poppin' is just asking for trouble.
 
Would there be a difference if I have a 4x4 footprint fixture in a 5x5 tent compared to a 5x5+ footprint light fixture?
A question I keep pondering on with the LEC fixture.
 

Captain Keg

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@ProAmateur , you seem to be trying to run, before you can walk Imo.

Why don't you try a smaller grow first? Rather than investing a considerable amount of your time & money into this project before your sure you can commit yourself to this.

I'd like to point out, digit timers would be a brilliant solution for your fans & exhausts.
A contractor would be better for running lights.
Many lights just as HID's will basically suck up a larger amount of power than required when first starting, this tends to burn out timers. (I learnt this from experience)

How do you plan on dispersing the heat from the exhaust? Keeping in mind, this is what FLIR cameras look for.
I personally use insulated ducts, I find them much better than regular cheap ones.

You've mentioned your landlord doing inspections. How often do they inspect?
Because this isn't something you want to be building & taking apart every so often, as there will undoubtedly be a smell & moving & hidding plants will become a pain in the ass.
A strain like northern lights or hybrid X may be a better solution to this. (All cannabis plants will smell, those I've mentioned have much milder than GG as you've mentioned)
Is it the clone only GG#4 you intend to grow or a seer version of Gorilla Glue?

There's two things I'd like to ask: are you doing this grow legally? (Assuming in a legal state in the US)
& is this grow, for personally supply, or a cash crop?

I'd like to point out, I'm in no way attempting to put you off. If anything I'd like to see you growing, I'd just rather you've fully thought this all out; rather than struggling or regretting it half way through.
(I started many large grows several years ago, before I was ready or had enough experience)
 
Captain Keg, after explaining, will you answer my question concerning the 4x4 footprint in a 5x5 tent?
Thanks for answering my digital timer question with inline/circulation fans. I've chosen the Titan Apollo 4 for the fixture.
--I don't believe I am attempting a large grow; 5x5 tent with 4 plants seems very manageable the first run to me. I've read for a couple years and just recently kicked it into overdrive(1yr) with research and talking to growers.
--I'll make time
---LEC's hold a cool running operation, one 315 watt bulb you can put your hand inches away without feeling intense heat. I'm thinking the heat signature will not be too noticeable. Hopefully the velocity of air through the ducting should cool it enough not to cause issues from fixture and ambient air in tent. Exhaust will be from tent to grow room for now.
---Inspections take place once a year in December, if I time it right, I'll get 3 harvests and close shop during this time for a clean inspection. Placing equipment in the attic or garage inconspicuously
---Smells during harvest have been thought of and prepared for
---I am in a legal state, and I have already become accustom to the laws, I am allowed 6 plants; so I'm doing 4
---It's a little bit of both; When Advil can't cut it and to replace money spent so I come out about even
---This is just a side hobby, if I do really well, I may pursue it even further
---I understand your concerns, once I have made up my mind, I am rarely swayed otherwise
-----I have thoroughly thought of Almost every scenario during the grow and after. I hold a passion for this, as everyone here does. The goal after this goal, is to become damn good at it.
--Success is always met with struggle, otherwise it's prolly not worth it.

Thanks for your input brother, it is well appreciated.
Just in case I overlooked something, someone like you may come along and bring it to light.
 
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Captain Keg

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Captain Keg, after explaining, will you answer my question concerning the 4x4 footprint in a 5x5 tent?
Thanks for answering my digital timer question with inline/circulation fans. I've chosen the Titan Apollo 4 for the fixture.
--I don't believe I am attempting a large grow; 5x5 tent with 4 plants seems very manageable the first run to me. I've read for a couple years and just recently kicked it into overdrive(1yr) with research and talking to growers.
--I'll make time
---LEC's hold a cool running operation, one 315 watt bulb you can put your hand inches away without feeling intense heat. I'm thinking the heat signature will not be too noticeable. Hopefully the velocity of air through the ducting should cool it enough not to cause issues with fixture and ambient air in tent. Exhaust will be from tent to grow room for now.
---Inspections take place once a year in December, if I time it right, I'll get 3 harvests and close shop during this time for a clean inspection. Placing equipment in the attic or garage inconspicuously
---Smells during harvest have been thought of and prepared for
---I am in a legal state, and I have already become accustom to the laws, I am allowed 6 plants; so I'm doing 4
---It's a little bit of both; When Advil can't cut it and to replace money spent so I come out about even
---This is just a side hobby, if I do really well, I may pursue it even further
---I understand your concerns, once I have made up my mind, I am rarely swayed otherwise
-----I have thoroughly thought of Almost every scenario during the grow and after. I hold a passion for this, as everyone here does. The goal after this goal, is to become damn good at it.
--Success is always met with struggle, otherwise it's prolly not worth it.

Thanks for your input brother, it is well appreciated.
Just in case I overlooked something, someone like you may come along and bring it to light.

Ahh ok....that's basically answered any question I would of had.

I had noticed you wanted 4-6lb per harvest, which I felt a little ambitious for a first time, not to mention other growers.
This made me think, you were going for cash rather than the pleasure & experience.
The size of your tent sounds good, I use a slightly bigger tent - but much is usually unused.
As for the landlord, I was expecting this was monthly or something like that. I'd hardly worry about an inspection once a year.
Legal state - perfect. I hate to hear of young guys getting arrested attempting to push for a cash crop or even just enough puff for them & their friends.
You seem to have researched & thought this out well, personally I admire & respect that.

As I stated before, it wasn't my intentions to put you off. Just to be sure that you've thought it out.
I've seen too many would be growers invest hundreds & thousands into a set up or grow that goes to waste.
Hence the, walk before you can run comment.

As for your comment about "success & struggle" - I like your attitude, I can relate & will be following your grow.

If you do decide to go large, don't post pics, don't mention it, etc. If it's illegal, the less that know the better - my attitude is "if I don't need to know, I'd rather not"
I learnt the hard way about that - due to my pardoners stupidity & "I'm too smart to be caught" attitude.

Two fingers, two toes & two balls crossed for ya.
Good luck, my friend & take care.
 
I had high hopes in the beginning, I have family and friends that could use it and I tried to do too much at one time so to speak. One with glaucoma, another with chronic pain, etc...
Had a cousin pass from cancer not too long ago, pretty sure CBD oil could have helped her.
Yeah, now it's back to the reality of things and walking before running.

Thanks again.
 
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