4k watt medical

How tall are your ceilings and how big do you think my 6k watt flowering room should be? Around the same size?

i would do like 15x15 for a 6k probably depends how you would set it and with what size footprint. i think my ceiling is 8 foot. also depends how hard you wana go, i prefer to pack wall to wall and work hard. some people want walkways

have you tried crushing mosquito dunks and watering it into your soil? or putting a layer of vermiculite on top of your soil? the gnats lay eggs in the dirt and then crawl out and fly away, the vermiculite tends to kill them. those are 2 ways i have heard of getting rid of them that i think is worth passing on.

my gnat problem also went away the DAY i stopped using roots organics soil and went over to fox farms ocean forest. i dont know if this last tip helps at all because i dont know what soil you use, its was only my situation.

growingforfun said:

have you tried crushing mosquito dunks and watering it into your soil? or putting a layer of vermiculite on top of your soil? the gnats lay eggs in the dirt and then crawl out and fly away, the vermiculite tends to kill them. those are 2 ways i have heard of getting rid of them that i think is worth passing on.

my gnat problem also went away the DAY i stopped using roots organics soil and went over to fox farms ocean forest. i dont know if this last tip helps at all because i dont know what soil you use, its was only my situation.

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im using sunshine#4. i had a bit of fungus gnats last run but i bleached the box and thought i cleared them all out. the problem is.. during the day the lights are off.. so those fuckers crawl through the bottom of my box, to outside the garage there are thousands of them sitting outside my garage. the terminex guy was like WTF and sprayed extra there but the bastards are still around and then at night they crawl back in my box so i been spraying the shit out of the bottom of my box where they creep in and the concrete floor inside. but i dont like the idea of using bug spray after week 5 even if it just is on the walls and the floor. i added perlite and sand to my buckets this seems to have helped.. but i googled the pictures of the shit they lay in your dirt.. and i havent really been touching the dirt since haha. i dont think there is more larva cause in veg i got lazy for a week and there was like thousands of them chillin on the tops of my canopy. thats when i got the perlite and sand and been spraying a bit since. Do those mosquito things take out the beneficials in the dirt like bugspray? i had those sticky trap things all around but the canopy got too gnarly and after getting a couple of the traps with gnats on them stuck in my hair i was done with that shit haha

http://www.amazon.com/Summit-111-5-Mosquito-Dunks-20-Pack/dp/B0002568YA heres a link for easy searching, i dont know much about what its made of and it may not be anything that can be used at your current stage, it may be too far in flower, i dont know if this product matters. but i remember hearing some good reasons for using it i just cant remember them. since it was on this forum though if your interested in learning about them im sure you could find it.

edit 1 i would also consider buying a electric fly swatter LOL nothing like a electric wand of death to show some insects the way ya feel about them.

edit 2 heres some info from the page i linked, apparently it had info on it that says its totally cool
Product Features

Size: 20-Pack

• Kills mosquitoes before they're old enough to bite
• The only product with bti, bacteria toxic only to mosquito larvae
• Lasts for 30-day and treats 100-square feet of surface water
• Non-toxic to all other wildlife , pets, fish, and humans
• Labeled for organic gardening by the usepa

we know its not totally true, as bti is also toxic to gnat larve, but maybe they are just closely related.

day 30 update. starting to like what im seeing, a decent comeback. the room is still not as full as last time i dont think but i added the two lights so hopefully i get a decent harvest. does anyone know how close to run these 600 wings? i got them at like 16 inches from the canopy.i think im going to bring them down to 12, they dont feel too warm. i put 6 oscillating fans in there to assure this bubblegum does not get budrot this time around.

patrickkawi37 said:

how would i go about finding what goes to what breaker.

thanks for patients guys

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As for what a breaker is connected to That is purely a process of elimination and checking. Codes do allow multiple rooms to be connected to the same breaker. The one and only way to find out what is on a breaker is to turn off all breakers except the one you are working with and then checking all outlets and lights to determine what has power.
Code only prescribes load for a specific wire size. Some appliances require dedicated circuits such as a frige or dishwasher. A 15 amp circuit only requires 14 guage wire and not really good for anything other than standard lighting but it is used for wall plugs that are on 15 amp circuits. A 20 amp circuit requires 12 guage wire it also requires 20 amp sockets. There is no such thing as cheap or under wired if it meets code. Nothing in any house wired for 110v uses wire larger than 12 guage. Your wireing can only meet code if it was inspected. Yes there are larger wire diameters and higher amp breakers but they cannot be connected to standard household lighting or wall outlets. No where, no how and no possibility of any building code that would allow it. It is common to find about 10 sockets or outlets on a circuit. Better wireing, more expensive wireing consists of only a lesser number of outlets per circuit. If you have copper wire that meets code there's really no such thing as better.

patrickkawi37 said:

day 30 update. starting to like what im seeing, a decent comeback. the room is still not as full as last time i dont think but i added the two lights so hopefully i get a decent harvest. does anyone know how close to run these 600 wings? i got them at like 16 inches from the canopy.i think im going to bring them down to 12, they dont feel too warm. i put 6 oscillating fans in there to assure this bubblegum does not get budrot this time around.

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plants look great bro. nice job. i run my 1000w lights in air cooled hoods at 12" so i bet a couple 600's in bat wings could be at 12-16" no problem.

do you trim away large fan leaves at all. I usually take away all the large fanleaves around this time. then again about 2 weeks before they finish. just to help with air circulation and it actually helps the buds in my opinion. less mass to support and more energy for the bud sites.

phil i lollipopped the fuck out of them and plucked pretty much Any large fan leave day 15-19. i ended up with a full black trashbag of foliage i thought i almost went TOO MUCH. of course this always happens and then ten days later you cant see the floor in any spot from the top of the canopy. do you think i should go through again and pluck some more before i let them chill til week 7ish?
also i wanted to ask. im getting a little burn around 950ppms.. this is about what i max at anyways with connoisseur. i think its mostly p & K burn. Im using big bud at a rate of 2-3ml per gallon and the b52 at about 2ml per gallon. im still a noob but im trying to narrow down what im getting the burn from and i think with the 2 part they are getting + the big bud and b52 that there is too much P k. so should i cut out the b52? or should i give less B than A with my 2 part and continue to use the additives?

patrickkawi37 said:

phil i lollipopped the fuck out of them and plucked pretty much Any large fan leave day 15-19. i ended up with a full black trashbag of foliage i thought i almost went TOO MUCH. of course this always happens and then ten days later you cant see the floor in any spot from the top of the canopy. do you think i should go through again and pluck some more before i let them chill til week 7ish?
also i wanted to ask. im getting a little burn around 950ppms.. this is about what i max at anyways with connoisseur. i think its mostly p & K burn. Im using big bud at a rate of 2-3ml per gallon and the b52 at about 2ml per gallon. im still a noob but im trying to narrow down what im getting the burn from and i think with the 2 part they are getting + the big bud and b52 that there is too much P k. so should i cut out the b52? or should i give less B than A with my 2 part and continue to use the additives?

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i'd go through them again and just get the big fan leaves that have stems on them. clean en up a little. it will help reduce the work later and will also give your lower nodes a little boost.

at 950ppm it's definitely a single nutrient that is causing the burn. i think the conni b part is to blame. it's something like 1-5-6 i think. i wouldn't reduce your additives. i actually use them at about double that. i use them around 1ml per liter so that's 4ml per gallon. i'd feed less part B the next 2-3 times and see how they react. not much but something like 20% less part b. run the additives the same as you have been. after you water them like this wait a day and then pluck off the really burnt leaves. then just see if you continue to get burn. then you know it's gotta be something else.

will do for sure! thank you dude. it wouldnt be burn from the cal mag though right? im only doing like 1ml per gallon with that and it seems to have made them more happy. i did like 240ml of A&b for a res so ill try 200 of the B. should i up the dose right away on the big bud and b52 and see how that goes or should i wait and see?

patrickkawi37 said:

will do for sure! thank you dude. it wouldnt be burn from the cal mag though right? im only doing like 1ml per gallon with that and it seems to have made them more happy. i did like 240ml of A&b for a res so ill try 200 of the B. should i up the dose right away on the big bud and b52 and see how that goes or should i wait and see?

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yea, i doubt it's the cal/mag. i would finish out this run using the additives like you have been. then try upping them a little on the next run. see how they respond.

Well first off I am going to give your rep because I am a honest guy, even though I should not because you thrashed me on my thread. But I give credit when it is due. But I have one question I made it through the first 15 or so pages.. How the fuck do you water them? And where does the run-off go? You have no walk ways or anything? Just a room full of plants. That is crazy, I mean I could understand if the room was one big ebb n flow but damn that has to be a lot of work..

ODanksta said:

Well first off I am going to give your rep because I am a honest guy, even though I should not because you thrashed me on my thread. But I give credit when it is due. But I have one question I made it through the first 15 or pages.. How the fuck do you water them? And where does the run-off go? You have no walk ways or anything? Just a room full of plants. That is crazy I mean I could understand if the room was one big ebb n flow but damn that has to be a lot of work..

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that's patrick and his helper who does the watering.

hahahah word scoobs! actually my helper got booted out of the room this run, im doing it on my own. i hand water everyday.. 3 lights one day.. 3 lights the next. the run off cruises along the floor where i get to crawl around in to water them and then it creeps out the bottom of the box and goes where ever haha. it takes me about 3-4 hours everyday but i dont have alot else going on so i dont mind it. and 11.5 ps off 4k watts... for me its worth it.

patrickkawi37 said:

hahahah word scoobs! actually my helper got booted out of the room this run, im doing it on my own. i hand water everyday.. 3 lights one day.. 3 lights the next. the run off cruises along the floor where i get to crawl around in to water them and then it creeps out the bottom of the box and goes where ever haha. it takes me about 3-4 hours everyday but i dont have alot else going on so i dont mind it. and 11.5 ps off 4k watts... for me its worth it.

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thats a ton of work! but the end results show how its worth it. i spend a half hour a day every day and im looking for shortcuts next round by making it easier to reach.

odanksta said:

well first off i am going to give your rep because i am a honest guy, even though i should not because you thrashed me on my thread. But i give credit when it is due. But i have one question i made it through the first 15 or so pages.. How the fuck do you water them? And where does the run-off go? You have no walk ways or anything? Just a room full of plants. That is crazy, i mean i could understand if the room was one big ebb n flow but damn that has to be a lot of work..

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nugs >walkways

some pics from this week

lookin good! i like the green leds for night work

kamie said:

lookin good! i like the green leds for night work

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the guy at the hydro store i go to hooked it up with this little wall mount t5 green bulb thing. its like a 2 foot, draws 24 watts and it lights up so i can see everything in there pretty well. really happy with it for 20 bucks. beats the hell out of the headlamp