40 year old seeds

Hello I have some Original HashPlant seeds from the 1970's given to me by the drummer of the grateful dead. Do you think they would germinate? Should I try it? Or would it be a waste of time with no results? All of the seeds have been kept in conditions with other seeds(for my vegetable garden) that I had sitting for 20 years and still germinated and grew very big and overwhelmed me in that department.

My uncle has seeds from back then in a freezer and they germinate just fine. Give it a shot. I dunno how well they store at room temp, but I just germinated some that have been in my attic for 3 years and most sprouted.

They have been in a colder, dark area, not a freezer but an area that is as cold as a fridge. I found them earlier this year and really want at least one in my garden next year.

That would depend how they were stored for that long period of time. I have not stored seeds past 5 years I usually use them or give them away locally.

They were forgotten about in an area with other seeds, the other seeds were planted but not them. The other seeds had an 80% success rate and my vegetable garden was overwhelming because of it. 2 years ago I grew from seed and had 3 males out of 12 started from seed. Those were with seeds picked up from a local mmj club. I hope I have the same success with these hashplant seeds as I did with my vegetable seeds.

Send 'em to me, I'll try them for you and report back.

what do you have to lose? give it a try and lett us know

No i doubt it and if they do they could grow retarded.

*BUDS said:

No i doubt it and if they do they could grow retarded.

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Would that explain why my squash and eggplant grew "retarded" and produced more than I have ever had one vegetable plant produce before?

That was *BUDS' sense of humor at work for you and me. Give the seeeds a go! cn

<edit> deliberate misspelling to avoid that involuntary hyperlink.

cannabineer said:

That was *BUDS' sense of humor at work for you and me. Give the seeds a go! cn

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I am very impatient about starting them but something in the back of my head is telling me to wait. Probably something to do with me not having a mother room and nowhere to put them while waiting for next years season. If my partner gets the indoor set up again I will start a post about them. If not, i will still start a post about them but it will have to wait for the next outdoor season to get a little closer. I will plant on DEC. 25 for outdoor. my partner told me this weird hippie story about why you should plant then but I don't remember it.

After forty years, less than three months won't be a problem. Jmo, and good luck! cn

It wont be a problem for you - I am already starting to get anxious thinking about them. Thank you Cannabineer. I have 5 hashplant seeds - 3 blush seeds(ever heard of blush before?) 4 NL#1(or so they say at my local mmj club) and 2 white russian. The "NL#1" looked like my friends NL#5 and smelled very very close. But not as close to the NL#1 I have seen/smelled/smoked before.

The hashplant are the only ones I am very anxious and excited about. I don't know if I can wait - would starting a plant indoors - putting a grow light on it and letting it veg on 18/6 until it is about that outdoors - then putting the plant outdoors and letting it continue to veg be bad? Would there be any consequences or negative effects on the budding stage?

i'd be very curious about hashplant from 1972, if that's the time frame you're talking about
there wasn't any such in 1972, at least not HashPlant which was bred considerably later
some kind of hash plant seems more plausible, and could be of North African lineage from that time, which was around back then, but was not the usual bagweed

Writtin, you can start a plant indoors under lights and plant it outdoors. However you'll need to provide a transition ... outdoor light is stronger than almost all indoor. The transition can be as simple as rigging shade until the plant has "hardened" to sunlight.

Growone, when I think hash plant, I'm put in mind of Afghani and Iranian indica landraces. cn

It was from the mid 70's probably closer to 75 or 76. the seeeds came from an original member of the band "The Grateful Dead"

Can plants really grow retarded? I've always wondered that.

cannabineer said:

Writtin, you can start a plant indoors under lights and plant it outdoors. However you'll need to provide a transition ... outdoor light is stronger than almost all indoor. The transition can be as simple as rigging shade until the plant has "hardened" to sunlight.

Growone, when I think hash plant, I'm put in mind of Afghani and Iranian indica landraces. cn

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So there would be no negative drawbacks from starting indoors and putting outdoors? Do plants start flowering at a certain AGE or will they veg for a year if I keep them in the right lighting conditions?(that is going way overboard, much further than the 3 months I would do but it's a hypothetical.)

Jake The Dog said:

Can plants really grow retarded? I've always wondered that.

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Well considering my tomatoes didn't start producing until a month and a half after everything else, and they didnt even put out green fruit until most everybody around here's tomato plants died off completely. They pushing out red ones right now and the seeds for them did come from the same storage area.

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So there would be no negative drawbacks from starting indoors and putting outdoors? Do plants start flowering at a certain AGE or will they veg for a year if I keep them in the right lighting conditions?(that is going way overboard, much further than the 3 months I would do but it's a hypothetical.)

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People have maintained mothers in veg for years. It's the lighting. That said, plants have a minimum age before they can be kicked into flower. The first months outdoors ... seedlings will veg, but a mature plant could be tricked into flowering. Sorry, but my experience is indoors ... so I don't know how clones fare in the spring. They're physiologically mature, even if small. cn