40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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Renfro

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I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong, then. Cloning has always been a struggle for me.
Just grab a tray of rapid rooters and a dome. Use rooting gel on the cuts, moisten the cubes, always have a little water in the bottom of the tray, like just enough to fill the little channels. Keep the dome sealed tight until they get roots. There is a product called Vitagrow antiwilt that is awesome, not required but it sure keeps them perky.
 

Renfro

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No need to ph the water until you have roots and are feeding. I use RO water, but tap water works too.
 

Renfro

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A seedling heat mat can really help speed up rooting. I don't use one but I have in the past and they do work.
 

Renfro

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I also root under my HID lighting, I just set them a little farther from the light. When they start getting roots I start feeding them and when they are in the trays I use a hydro pH of 5.8 and a PPM thats right around 1000, I don't feed them weak. I also take big cuttings, 6 inchers and I don't cut off much leaf since I am using the antiwilt and I am spacing them out in the tray. I just leave them alone aside from checking the tray water level. I do like to hit them with a light foliar feed about 5-7 days in but not more often than that, you want them to feel a need to make roots. If things are sealed up well you should have plenty of condensation on the inside of the dome.
 

dr.tomb

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Yep, did all that. Got shit results anyway lol
My two biggest suggestions are...

1) don't think about them. When I was having issues it was when I was opening the dome every day, checking the bottoms for roots, and remisting. For example, I once got busy with a big trim and replant, forgetting about the clones for ~week, and come back to roots.

2) temperature in the room. My veg area was always hovering around 19-21*c. Then I moved the cloning area inside and setup a small heater to keep the are slightly warmer than room temp, like 23-24c. I noticed my 80% result going to 99%.

Now if you want the break down of the exact method here is a link.

Follow it to a t and you'll get results. I do have a strain that doesn't show roots for 10 days, I've got one that has roots in 4.

For the record, Im not super sterile, I don't use razor blades, I don't double dunk in cloning gel and powder)

I take 6" cuts (just fit below the clear dome lid) with my trimming scissors. I try to get a node near the bottom of the 6" that I can cut off, if I don't have a node, I'll lightly scrape the stem before I place into cloning powder (unless I'm doing multiple plants at once, then I put into solo cups with water and then I bulk label, clone powder and place at one time), then into oasis cubes, no ph'ing.

Follow that link for the rest and you'll get the results.
 
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snippetysnip

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Ttystikk... have you tried air layering?
Rooting your desired plant whilst still attached to the mother??
You should try it if you haven't already and if you don't have to generate big numbers..
 

DustyDuke

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Easy and cheap clone rooting. Rapid rooters. I always get 100% rooted, no need for a pump of any kind. Just check them every couple days and make sure there is a little water in the tray. Use a dome of course. It's simple and no slime.
Nice journal mate and setup. The bloke at my hydro shop pointed out the rapid rooters. I wasn’t sure about them but I haven’t cloned in over ten years. I’ll definitely give them a go seeing your results. Back then I just used rock wool and a heat mat with some clone x. I had about 90% success rate. But those rapid cubes seem the go cheers mate
 

growingforfun

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You sadistic fuck! lol
I mean.. it's honestly the easiest part of growing... I used to struggle too, for like the first cycle or 3 but since then... meh.

Cut, soak it water 30 min or more then put in dirt an a dome. It's easy as can be. No gels needed...
 

bdt1981

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Eew bro fuckin slimy lookin. Wouldnt put those in a hydro system at all.

I believe my final water setting was 10 sec every 1.5 min.
No nutes or pH'ing.
Added rooting jell when I first put them in the cloner but you do not really need to, it washes right off.

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Imo and expirence clonee machines work best when u keep the pump on 24/7
 

bdt1981

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Eew bro fuckin slimy lookin. Wouldnt put those in a hydro system at all.
Got 34 out of 34 rooted, put 24 in the tent, in coco, vegged for 14 days, I think it was, and flipped.
23.6 zips smokable buds. No problems during the grow, so I am happy.

Only problem I had was I had the water too cool when I first put the clones in the machine so it took longer than expected to root.

That is not a very good pic.
Here are a few in good light.
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How long did it take to see roots? I swear the very first signs of roots was in 3 days on last run. It was small but it was there. After about 10 they were all rooted and at 17 they were insane long. But the growers were to lazy to transplant. Like after they started at about 7 days each day was so different from the last that i could hardly believe it
 

gr865

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[/QUOTE]How long did it take to see roots? I swear the very first signs of roots was in 3 days on last run. It was small but it was there. After about 10 they were all rooted and at 17 they were insane long. But the growers were to lazy to transplant. Like after they started at about 7 days each day was so different from the last that i could hardly believe it[/QUOTE]

As a stated I had the water too cool, it took a total of 20 days.
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1/11/19 Started showing noduels at day 11, this was two days after installing the aquarium heater @ 75 degrees.
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1/20/19 Transplant day.
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I think if I had put the heater in there at the start of the cycle I would have been able to transplant much sooner.

Next cloning cycle I will be more prepared, have bigger mothers to take larger clones.
 
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