4 Week Old Indoor Grow: Need Help

This plant is 4 weeks old, and has been doing very well till this morning until I checked it. I did decide to leave my lights on for 24 hours the previous day because it has not hit the flowering stage yet, also I have constant air flow on it. I have some pics to help diagnose my problem hopefully it is not too late for this girl.

- One leaf tip has seemed to start shriveling up almost, and all of the others are begininning to show yellowish tips.

Whats your thoughts?

ya nute burnt it, to problem it happens, just watch what you are feeeding and how strong it is.
otherwise it could be your soil.

its probably to close to the light since i see u have your lite on your wall and your plant rite next to it...try putting your plant above your plant instead so u can raise it as your plaants grow....in the mean time tho....dim the light or put a less bright bulb in and water it real good

Should I flush it and replant it in better soil??? i hate sitting here watching it die.... What should I do???

BBJB said:

its probably to close to the light since i see u have your lite on your wall and your plant rite next to it...try putting your plant above your plant instead so u can raise it as your plaants grow....in the mean time tho....dim the light or put a less bright bulb in and water it real good

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thats probably not it.

goo5e said:

Should I flush it and replant it in better soil??? i hate sitting here watching it die.... What should I do???

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You could do that. At this point it would probably recover better after a transplant. I would find the best soil you can, or mix up your own, then transplant to a less rich soil. Be careful feeding next time that is a small plant and doesn't need much food.

You do not have enough light!! I just picked up a great analogy your kid is being taught by a retard. Do you want her on the short bus or go to Harvard. Your plant looks fine and green but the bigger it gets the more light it needs. Look at the node spacing and the size of the stem you are about 4 to 6 inches from it falling over, the plant deterioration is the plant shutting down outer areas to keep the inner tissue alive. More light buddy more light!!

Definatly more light, with that flourescent t8 you should have topped or lst and hung it directly overhead not on the side of the wall. Either that or do what sparkafire said and get more light. Dan2581 i am a friendly guy but GOD DAMN your info is misleading, i know sparkafire is dying to tell you off but he seems a bit subdued at the moment, think i know why!lol! Anyway dan2581 i hope i have not offended you as i mean no harm to anyone and your opinion is as valued as mine, peace bro.

Kingrow1 said:

Definatly more light, with that flourescent t8 you should have topped or lst and hung it directly overhead not on the side of the wall. Either that or do what sparkafire said and get more light. Dan2581 i am a friendly guy but GOD DAMN your info is misleading, i know sparkafire is dying to tell you off but he seems a bit subdued at the moment, think i know why!lol! Anyway dan2581 i hope i have not offended you as i mean no harm to anyone and your opinion is as valued as mine, peace bro.

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I don't take offense because everyone is entitled to their own opinion, which may be right or wrong.

Are you telling me the yellow tipped leaves are not an early sign of nute burn? How is this misleading? Flushing that tiny guy would cause it over-moisture stress and it would wilt and wither next to that weak light. A transplant into a more effective soil would be a better solution.

It is painfully obvious that a tiny t8 on the wall is nowhere near sufficient light. I didn't even bother to mention that for 2 reasons, one he did not inquire about it, and two if you didn't research how much light your gonna need before starting your grow, you might as well fail for being lazy. I don't have much respect for people who want others to lay out all the work for them, it didn't take me but a few days of research before my first grow to get it right.

If you have an issue with any information I post, point it out to me, if you can prove i'm in the wrong, then I'd have no problem changing it.

Its pretty apparent that I have more then that one t8 light... you couldn't get a plant to this stage off that shit light, that is just an addition to the one i have above it.

goo5e said:

Its pretty apparent that I have more then that one t8 light... you couldn't get a plant to this stage off that shit light, that is just an addition to the one i have above it.

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Well for being 4 weeks into veg, you should be looking at a fully mature plant ready to flower assuming you don't prune. It is extremely stretchy too. Unless you just added a light that is sufficient, your going to need to rethink your lighting equipment.

Thanks dan i appreciate us staying friendly and you do have the odd good idea.lol! I grow with 2 foot flourescents and you would be amazed at what i can do with just 1 18watt t8, can take a plant a lot futher than that stage easily, but then i have grown with them for years and thats experience for you. Anyway i did think they were a little nute burned but not that much. I will post a pic for you of my jalepeno pepper plant grown under just 1 18w t8 flourescent to give you an idea of just what can be done, as for now i trust sparkafire and the more info you give the more help you can recieve. This plant has had a lot of thrip and bug damage being near an open window so exscuse the odd bit of leaf damage and i also dropped the light on it once so has a small bit of lightburn, this plant is 100percent healthy too -

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Thanks dan i appreciate us staying friendly and you do have the odd good idea.lol! I grow with 2 foot flourescents and you would be amazed at what i can do with just 1 18watt t8, can take a plant a lot futher than that stage easily, but then i have grown with them for years and thats experience for you. Anyway i did think they were a little nute burned but not that much. I will post a pic for you of my jalepeno pepper plant grown under just 1 18w t8 flourescent to give you an idea of just what can be done, as for now i trust sparkafire and the more info you give the more help you can recieve. This plant has had a lot of thrip and bug damage being near an open window so exscuse the odd bit of leaf damage and i also dropped the light on it once so has a small bit of lightburn, this plant is 100percent healthy too -

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There's never a need to get hostile. People just don't realize that. If you don't like something about someone, then fuck it, carry on. I started out with one 4 foot t8 myself lol, its hard to remember but I do. I did not mean to imply that it CANNOT be accomplished, but to receive adequate results t5's would be the way to go. But thats just accounting for efficiency. You could match up watts with enough cfl's or t8's, most people just don't spend the money or have the space to do so. Lets see this jalepeno. I've got some experience growing cayennes in a turbo garden system at the hydro store.

The tips are showing a little K def progression probably because of PH or salt built up, they need way more light too. Cheers

So I have re done my light situation a little bit, should this be enough light?? Also, will this plant fix itself, or is it toasted?

Why such bad pics why!!?

That is impressive for 18w of flourescent isn't it dude!

Unless that small light on the wall is some low voltage hps or mh id get rid of it straight away, looks hot and the wrong light spectrum, side lighting is not worth it for this plant.

Ya those are nice King. Impressive. How do you feel about the new pics i posted? Should that be enough light?

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So I have re done my light situation a little bit, should this be enough light?? Also, will this plant fix itself, or is it toasted?

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It's better. I've used a 4 foot t8 before and accomplished results, not the ones I was looking for though. You can tell from the upper growth that is larger it prefers the new light, but to get any kind of bush going your gonna need to step it up with more t8's or a t5 fixture.

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Looking good, I think peppers a fun to grow but i hate eating spicy ones.

edit: I forgot I was gonna ask how big that flouro was, but you already answered. That is amazing for 18w of florescent light. Cannabis requires A LOT more lol. We have 5 pepper plants under a 250w mh and its been pruned for almost a year now they are getting out of control, and we can't give away all the peppers anymore lol.

I am good with a t8 or t5, grown with them for years and really love them, apart from the light penetration. Got to keep them plants small, that jalapeno in the pics is probably just about a foot tall and a foot wide. For my marijuana i top all my plants and let just four branches grow out. I top at them at the 3/4 internode and flower a week or so after, plants don't get taller than 50cm when finished. Your plant looks stretched and weak, either get some stronger light on her or i really don't know what to do, this is where sparkafire would have a vey good idea, where is he!!!!! Help!!! There might be similar threads on this so have a look at what others did. I can maybe suggest topping the very last new bit of growth off and developing the side branches and making it more bushier. You are starting to appreciate that the higher you move the flourescents from the plant the less light penetrates the growth at the bottom and the plant stretches for the light. It is a tough situation you have gotten into and see why the call for light was made!

I hope this has been helpfull in some way and maybe a few ideas to think about. Even start another seed next to this plant and raise it close to the light so you now have two plants incase the first dosen't make it. Sparkafire help us please.

As you can see with my jalepeno the right technique for the right light is so important. Dan i am so happy we have found some common ground with the peppers, i love growing them and they are so much less fussier that marijuana, hard to overwater and love being underwatered, rarely needs nutes and grows better in poorer soils. With this plant the thrip damage was getting too bad due to it being really hot outside so i pulled all of its first set of flowers off to let it recover, just flowering again now. I keep them for two generations and then as you say they get too bush and have too start a new one as there gets a point where 18w of flourescent just dosen't cut it. I have started a new seedling but that is in a peat cube at home in my veg chamber, will transplant to a pot in a few days and place it next to the one in the pic, when this one has given me two sets/generations of peppers the seedling will be just starting to flower hence a slow continuous supply of peppers. If you get too many simply leave them too dry on the side and they will store for a couple of years easily.

Now ive showed you mine dan you show me yours!