315W CMH SIngle Plant DWC SCROG.

Enigma

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Tasty has a very well polished (4) emitter fixture, T-22, come a kit or complete. The driver only pushed them about 45W each, I think (2) two drivers and (2) two spectrums would put out better results at 70W each.

I believe the PPF is over 1k in a 2' x 2', driven harder it should have over 1k PPF in a 3' x 3'. My numbers aren't exact.

I was really just looking for the cheapest way to get in without getting crap equipment. I think the Vero7 is about middle of the road here, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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horribleherk

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Tasty has a very well polished (4) emitter fixture, T-22, come a kit or complete. The driver only pushed them about 45W each, I think (2) two drivers and (2) two spectrums would put out better results at 70W each.

I believe the PPF is over 1k in a 2' x 2', driven harder it should have over 1k PPF in a 3' x 3'. My numbers aren't exact.

I was really just lookusing for the cheapest way to get in without getting crap equipment. I think the Vero7 is about middle of the road here, correct me if I'm wrong.
sounds like you've done a bit more homework than I have the timber I want is vero 29 driven hard @100w.each but I've got my hands full with the 2 leds I've got nobody ever says anything negative about tasty you're gonna do fine I get on some of these led forums & get right back off the rudest & loudest is not always the rightest in my opinion you did good
 

calliandra

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I love the name Skylar White, great Breaking Bad reference! You NEED to watch that by the way!
haha yeah it was the reason I did - in the beginning (hm and in between too lol) Skylar was such a bitch I thought I'm never going to pop this seed LOL
Changed my mind though ;)
Especially after the Fastbuds LSD-25 I was actually wanting to grow died sprouting, and it wasn't a freebie either :( I've got this feeling I'm going to be giving up on Fastbuds genetics alltogether, I've had so many seeds either not sprout at all or sprout badly or be runts... not sure what it's about either, I got the first ones from Zamnesia I think, the second from Gorilla Seeds - so either all Fastbuds stuff is old this side of the sea, or they don't like the way I treat them.

@calliandra turn it up full blast!!
haha always :D

unbelievable, love The Black Sabbath bassline towards the end!
I was fortunate enough to go to one of Black Sabbaths final gigs, it was in Manchester, and fuck me, Ozzy put on a show!
ah yes! LMAO love em, clobbering the drumset together there too :D
That song has always reminded me of Billy Talent btw, the snotty attitude haha
 

calliandra

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The driver only pushed them about 45W each, I think (2) two drivers and (2) two spectrums would put out better results at 70W each.
vero 29 driven hard @100w.each
hey wait wait, what?!
In my simplistgic understanding of the matter, I always thought COBs did better driven at really low wattages?!
What's the reasoning for pushing them like that? :D
 

Enigma

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Depending on the manufacturer, and the design, you can have COBs that run at low voltage and high amperage resulting in higher wattage. Other COBs can be run at a higher voltage and a lower amperage resulting in a lower wattage. The other thing to note, I've noticed the higher voltage COBs will be more efficient and more powerful than the lower voltage ones.

At lower currents the lumen per Watt, or efficacy, will generally be better and as well as the cooler the COB operates.

The more current driven through them the more light and the farther away they need to be. The more efficient the COB is the less electricity will be wasted to heat.

BridgeLux isn't the top brand, from what I know, but the Vero7-SE pack a punch at 70W passively cooled, 95W actively, on paper. For the price, ease of use, low power consumption and the ability to pump over 1k PPF into my space was more than appealing.

I'm just playing the waiting game now.

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Haze the maze

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This is what I'm doing. Bubba and Early Vixen inside and Early Vixen outside they are about 5'6" and in flower They will finish under My new 1000w HPS as it will get cold and wet here soon.
Then I will move the light into this room downstairs and finish up the current ten plant grow with it and another that is rooting.
The bubble buckets hold 6 gal. of water and are now @500PPM
I'll get a pic with the light on. It's off in the day 12-4 as it has been nice and warm here in BC Canada as you can see from them outside plants.

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Haze the maze

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lights on.
These have been growing for 2 weeks from when they got roots as clones and are growing very fast with almost a 1/2 gal of water being taken up per day at this point
Some are showing monstercrop and I may only keep them and ditch the rest. they are VERY branchy.
Also there are two different phenoms of the Early Vixen and My money is on the bushy one that had a nice pre flower smell in it's mother outside and a tighter structure. There is sure to be a showdown in here soon...EeeeeHaw.


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calliandra

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Well it's a good thing I'm pretty happy with my lights at the mo, looks like I'll have to brush up my understanding before I add any more :mrgreen:

At the mo I'm more worried about odour control.
The Skylar White seems to be living out the skunkishness in her lineage and my place strinks like a cannaforest despite the cheapside DIY filtering I've been dabbling with..
My logic on air exchange seems to be off. I was looking to keep it to the necessary minimum as to not create negative pressure in the closet. My suspicion being that negative air pressure makes the plants stink more. While that may be, air exchange isn't going to win against genetics ;)

So after wasting 50 euro on a regular inline fan (w/ just 90m³/hr), activated carbon (which I had to remove again after a day, the airflow got reduced to just about zero), and a Carbon filter for extractor hoods (totally ineffective!), I'm sheepishly opting for a nice 160m³/hr S&P silent fan and a proper carbon filter to match :rolleyes:
I had the impulse to just put up my old closet and stick them in there for the 3 weeks they still have to go, but knowing myself, if I do that I'll never build the new room, and I really need that space for my planned return to photoperiods - and moving on to regulars too...

So here they are, at day 54, 14 days after the last update, with a good 3 weeks to go.
Both showing nute problems on their bottom leaves, the PE with calmag deficiency signs and starting to transfer nitrogen upwards.
I have to look at slow release nutes in my soil mixes more seriously I think!

The Pineapple Express
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Note that tallest branch in the middle - it's actually the lowermost one of the plant, which seems decided to get into a growing race with the deadnettle in there (blooming in pink), way after the other parts of the plant were already focusing on flower.
It's really funny to see how that one branch is trying to catch up with the others now. May have to leave it standing, like a vigorous middle finger, for a few more days after the rest gets harvested :bigjoint: we'll see!

And Ms. Stinky, the Skylar White
Clearly pulling nitrogen out of her bottom leaves, may be partly genetic self-defoliation, but yeah.
She's only in 10L too, on purpose.
For full development she'd need twice that, but I was scared of that given the tiny space.
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Looks like she could be a heavy yielder when grown out properly, love how she's developing her colas!
(oh and sorry for the crappy pic quality, my cellphone cam all of a sudden can't handle the light anymore it seems and always makes these stripey pix now :? so no, I don't have shades hanging across my lights lol)
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(same main cola as the closeup in the last update)

Cheers! :bigjoint:
 
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horribleherk

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hey stickman got a little work done to the cob tent today it is now automated & feeds once daily the tub is one of those they use to mix mortar in it fits my 2 smart pots pretty good the smaller plant is starting to wake up I think I'm gonna stick with this setup as it's gonna work in a week or so I'm gonna set the timer to feed twice dailyIMG_2661.JPGIMG_2662.JPG IMG_2663.JPG
 

Haze the maze

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I have just not seen this kind of growth before. Having only grown with seeds . 2 more inches over night so I put the screen to it too spread out some of the rampant growth.
The monstercroped plants have branches that are taller than the center growth!
I think it may be because I have followed Tystick's advice and I'm adding 1 gram of Epsom salts per gal. it helps the plant build new growth. I think it works. :wink: I'm adding it to the res. when topping up but, not with the initial res. fill so I can adjust the PPM correctly.
I'm at 3/4 of a gal to each bucket per day. I'm mixing full strength 500PPM plus adding Epsom salt to that to top up the res.
 

calliandra

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I have just not seen this kind of growth before. Having only grown with seeds . 2 more inches over night so I put the screen to it too spread out some of the rampant growth.
The monstercroped plants have branches that are taller than the center growth!
I think it may be because I have followed Tystick's advice and I'm adding 1 gram of Epsom salts per gal. it helps the plant build new growth. I think it works. :wink: I'm adding it to the res. when topping up but, not with the initial res. fill so I can adjust the PPM correctly.
I'm at 3/4 of a gal to each bucket per day. I'm mixing full strength 500PPM plus adding Epsom salt to that to top up the res.
sounds intriguing! :D
How much ppm does the gram of Epson end up adding to your res?
 

Haze the maze

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sounds intriguing! :D
How much ppm does the gram of Epson end up adding to your res?
Well I'm using 1 table spoon per 2 gal and getting about 100 PPM so My add mix is 600 PPM This is a little high as it moved My res. up a little when added.
It looks like it's just because I have never used clones before. They have full maturity and that's what I think is giving them the boost.
Learning is fun....bongsmilie

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Anon Emaus

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This fucks me off pal, its been the problem the last few grows, end up with one massive root and all the rest are shitty little things.
Anywho, how are you? And what you growing? How did the Blue Dream turn out?
Miss everyone here! Gunna try to get back on here more(i know i probably always say that and disappear constantly), got some great grows planned for the winter here!

I'm alright, grows have been a bitch with the summer heat. I'm up to 3 tents now though(i don't kno if i had them last I was on but don't think so) lol I couldn't stop, you should see how i have them crammed in the room! Blue dream turned shit with the broken root, let her run for long time but gave up in the end. Ended up with only minorly looking premature buds, good enough for making edibles and boy is it still some potent shit!

I've been growing a bunch of Mephisto strains this summer and I'm thrilled with them!!! Did a couple dirt grows and will never do dirt again after getting spider mites yuck!

So other than the small dirt grows which popped a couple zips here and there I did a big run in my DWC of 3 different Mephisto strains. Autoflowers so only 3 months and i yeilded 17.5oz!!!! Honestly my best grow ever. Other than that freak 15 week flowering Original Amnesia this is my biggest yeild yet and it was only 3 months. Prior with photos I've only ever done 15oz other than the OA. Ripley's OG was the heavy weight and took over the whole tent bringing in i think it was 10.7oz alone. Amazing smoke too, extremely potent, they say it consistently hits 23% thc and my buddies just want more and more so its proven itself.

Here are some pics of that grow. I currently have a very similiar grow going with another Ripley's OG and Sour Orange Deisel Kush by Mephisto.

Left to right buds:
Skylar White - Frostiest bud I've ever seen
Sour Stomper - Never knew weed could smell that fruity! Amazing terps and fat trichromes.
Ripley's OG - Insane yeilder, hard hitting potent bud and fat chunky nugs.
 

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horribleherk

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Miss everyone here! Gunna try to get back on here more(i know i probably always say that and disappear constantly), got some great grows planned for the winter here!

I'm alright, grows have been a bitch with the summer heat. I'm up to 3 tents now though(i don't kno if i had them last I was on but don't think so) lol I couldn't stop, you should see how i have them crammed in the room! Blue dream turned shit with the broken root, let her run for long time but gave up in the end. Ended up with only minorly looking premature buds, good enough for making edibles and boy is it still some potent shit!

I've been growing a bunch of Mephisto strains this summer and I'm thrilled with them!!! Did a couple dirt grows and will never do dirt again after getting spider mites yuck!

So other than the small dirt grows which popped a couple zips here and there I did a big run in my DWC of 3 different Mephisto strains. Autoflowers so only 3 months and i yeilded 17.5oz!!!! Honestly my best grow ever. Other than that freak 15 week flowering Original Amnesia this is my biggest yeild yet and it was only 3 months. Prior with photos I've only ever done 15oz other than the OA. Ripley's OG was the heavy weight and took over the whole tent bringing in i think it was 10.7oz alone. Amazing smoke too, extremely potent, they say it consistently hits 23% thc and my buddies just want more and more so its proven itself.

Here are some pics of that grow. I currently have a very similiar grow going with another Ripley's OG and Sour Orange Deisel Kush by Mephisto.

Left to right buds:
Skylar White - Frostiest bud I've ever seen
Sour Stomper - Never knew weed could smell that fruity! Amazing terps and fat trichromes.
Ripley's OG - Insane yeilder, hard hitting potent bud and fat chunky nugs.
I have no experience with autos but when I'm snooping around mephisto is getting the highest praise I'm growing in e&f smart pots using tupur these clones were taken July 31st tupur is some sort of coco blend dwc & high temps have really been hard on me this feeds the same nutes but root problems are nonexistent IMG_2699.JPG
 
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