2nd Grow - Mega Jackpot under DS XML 650 using DWC

djweed420

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I'm sure you can get a pound the way they growing now. They looking healthy with plenty bud sights. will be good to see your g/pw yield!

On a side note are you running a drip feed into your air pots or do you just have the air pump and air stone bubbling? If not how much space is the between the water level in the reservoir and the air pot? How often do you change the water in the reservoir?
 

Eric Farley

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I'm sure you can get a pound the way they growing now. They looking healthy with plenty bud sights. will be good to see your g/pw yield!

On a side note are you running a drip feed into your air pots or do you just have the air pump and air stone bubbling? If not how much space is the between the water level in the reservoir and the air pot? How often do you change the water in the reservoir?
Thanks, I sure hope so! I started out hoping I'd get maybe a quarter to half a pound, since I've always sucked a gardening so if I get a full pound I'd be thrilled. We'll find out in 6 weeks, I have a hard harvest date due to an impending vacation, which sucks I'm just hoping they finish in time. They will have 9.5 weeks of flower before I have to either cut them down or abandon them for a week and hope they survive. Maybe it would just be a week of flush instead of 4 days, might be okay, I'll worry about it more when it's closer.

I am just running an air pump/stone into the res, I choose this to start since it was the simplest hydro setup I saw and I was still learning. Based on these results I feel like there's no point in messing with drip feeding, it's just more complicated. I leave about 2 inches of space between the top of my water and the bottom of the net pot. The ladies currently drink about half a gallon a day which drops the level to about 6 inches below the pot in 24 hours. When they were younger and drank less water I tried to keep the water level 3-4 inches from the bottom of the pot.

I was changing the water out every 2 weeks, because I didn't know how to adjust my nutes other than for the full res. I've recently figured out how to adjust my PPM in the pot in increments of 50 so i just add nutes most nights when I top off the water to keep the PPM from dropping. Doing this I plan to change the reservoir when I replace 3-4x the volume it holds. In this case since I just changed it, I probably won't change it again the rest of this grow. The beneficial bacteria in run in it should keep it clean and the plants PH and PPM are so much better now that I'm keeping everything constant and not changing it out all the time. It's a pain adjusting the ppm, ph and water level of 4 pots so I plan to do a RDWC when I got back to a mono strain grow. My next grow however is going to be a dual strain scrog, so the RDWC will have to wait for another day.
 

Eric Farley

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Flower Week 3

Well two of the ladies sativa genes have really kicked in. They are now 12 inches above the max height listed by the seed bank coming in at 37.5 inches today, nearly triple the height they were when I flipped to 12/12 three weeks ago! I really hope they stop growing soon, I'm running out of space again... Plus it's getting hard to get pictures!



Here you can clearly see how much taller the right half of the tent is than the left half. I've been forced to run my light on an angle to keep it closer to the left side.



The node spacing looks great on the left plants



However on the right it's not such nice spacing... :/



Since I moved the lights up the weird white spots have gotten much better and pistils have started growing like crazy so it looks like it was definitely bleaching. I'm glad I moved the light up but I'm worried still because they just keep growing.







Here's a couple close-ups, you can still see the damage from the bleaching but all of the new growth is looking great, there's even trichomes forming already!





One plant is still having some weird issues, I track my PPM every day and try to get it so that the water level drops at the same rate as the PPM. So when I top up today and check on it before adding more water tomorrow the PPM should have remained constant. This is fine on three plants, they're all sitting around 560 PPM, which seems a bit low but they are super healthy so I'm not complaining. The fourth plant though, it's PPM keeps dropping, it's now at 430 and saying that's too high. I have no idea why it want's so much less nutes than it's sisters but it otherwise looks healthy. I'm thinking maybe I got nute lockout in this bucket somehow so I flushed that bucket tonight, hopefully this helps.
 

Eric Farley

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Week 4 update (Light switched to 12/12 on 7/18/2015)


Another awesome week! It looks like the ladies have finally stopped growing. They have been sitting at 40 inches now for a couple days; I definitely need a SCROG next time!





The buds are really starting to fill in the stalks now. I was worried about the node spacing on the taller plants but it's looking like it may not be too big of an issue.







One thing I find a bit odd is the pistils are already starting to turn amber. It seems early but I'm not too concerned at this point.

 

Eric Farley

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Week 5 update (Light switched to 12/12 on 7/18/2015)


The buds are starting to put on some weight, although I think I might have stunted it a bit this week. I was trying to find the sweet spot on the PPM and it keep telling me to drop it lower and lower. I ended up going down to 300 before deciding this didn't make sense and that I was done chasing the PPM level. I also noticed some leaves are starting to yellow at the top which I assume is a result of this. I've been rising the PPM daily so hopefully this week we'll see more growth.




Decided to give you guys some scale for the size of the buds so far. Nothing crazy but for 5 weeks I think they're a decent size.


They're already starting to get frosty, I expect this is going to be some nice smoke when it's done.
 

Eric Farley

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Week 6 update (Light switched to 12/12 on 7/18/2015)

Well this week the nutrient deficiency really started to show themselves. A number of leaves turned a pale yellow and then turned brown along the edges this week. I also had others start showing grey dead spotting on the leaves. At this point I've gotten the PPM up to 1000 and the plants seem happy with this, it might be a bit high though, I'll continue to monitor it this week.



It looks to me like most of the damage is from a potassium deficiency. This should be resolved now that I've raised my PPM back up. I wish these leaves would heal since it's kind of ugly but as long as it doesn't keep getting worse I'm okay with it. Lessons learned.



On the right of this picture you can see some leaves that look to have a phosphorus deficiency in addition to the potassium.



This has become my favorite bud of the bunch, it's huge compared to the rest.

 

Eric Farley

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To give you an idea of where this grow is headed, here is a couple pictures of a harvest I just completed of the same strain grown under a cheap $70 Mars Hydro LED in poor room conditions. I expect this grow to be many times better :)







 

Eric Farley

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Your buds are looking really nice, these things are all pistils early on, like little Einstein afros lol

It's very smooth and mellow. A bit less flavor than I normally like in my buds but it's really easy to smoke and pretty potent. The high is also mellow and a nice mix of indica and sativa effects. It doesn't lock you on the couch but still has a nice relaxing effect.
 

Milo 420

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Your buds are looking really nice, these things are all pistils early on, like little Einstein afros lol

It's very smooth and mellow. A bit less flavor than I normally like in my buds but it's really easy to smoke and pretty potent. The high is also mellow and a nice mix of indica and sativa effects. It doesn't lock you on the couch but still has a nice relaxing effect.
You know what's pretty cool between your lights and my lights it seems your buds ate flatter on top while mine are more cone shape I know there's more variables beside light but we should compare I'm growing in soilless and youre in dwc heres a pic after feeding today
 

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Eric Farley

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I think the main reason my buds aren't growing into cone shapes is because of the distance to my light. I need to use a SCROG next time to keep the plants from getting so close to the light.

As you can see in this photo this bud is still suffering from light bleaching. Luckily it's just this single bud that's bleached still, the rest recovered.



Here's a shot of the best bud of the group for you to compare to. This one is also more cone shaped than the rest.


That bud is quite a bit bigger than her sisters though which sucks, but such is life. Here's a photo of a more typical top on these plants.


What day since switching to 12/12 were you on in that picture? You bud looks quite a bit larger than mine at this point. I took these photos on Week 6 Day 4 since I switched to 12/12.
 
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Eric Farley

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Looking good, I'd say you definitely have better node spacing than me. It looks like yours are still in their fluffy stage before they really start putting on weight. Soon those pistils well recede and the actual bud and frostyness will show through. It's a very frosty strain, great visually.
 

Milo 420

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Ya still in that fluffy stage lol but the bud Def has some density to them for how young they are
 

Eric Farley

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Week 7 update (Light switched to 12/12 on 7/18/2015)

Well this has been an interesting week. One of the plants has really been bulking up the buds while the others haven't added a lot of size but seem to have put on more crystals than the plant that's been bulking up. Lastly one of the plants is starting to fox tail pretty badly which is disappointing. I'm debating turning my lights down a bit but I don't want to take away from the other 3 plants if they're okay.

The tent is looking pretty good IMHO, very frosty. I wish there wasn't so much damage from the nute deficency a couple weeks back but such is life, lessons learned.


The plants are getting super frosty, even the bottom of the stems for the water leafs are covered in trichomes.


Couple nice buds, pretty average for this grow in both size and looks.



This bud is a monster compared to the rest. I don't think this photo really captures it, but this beast is easily 2-3 times the size of the rest. This entire plant has much fatter buds than the other 3 in general though.


A couple of the more severe cases of fox tailing. These just started to pop out the last couple days so we'll see how they progress. I'll have to read more on fox tails but if I recall it's from stress.

 

Eric Farley

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After checking the plants out tonight under the microscope there are a lot more trichomes amber than I expected. I'm not sure if this is because of the stress or what but these buds are WAY smaller than they were on my first plant of this strain which was only half the size of these and under far inferior lighting. It's strange so we'll see how it goes but it looks like we'll be having a harvest here in the near future. I'm hoping to get some more weight on these buds first though.
 

Eric Farley

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Week 8 update (Light switched to 12/12 on 7/18/2015)

Well this was a disappointing week, there was really no change at all. The buds all look pretty much the same as last week, with the exception of the one plant that had been putting on weight. Considering how the trichomes look and a trip I have coming up I've decided the harvest is going to happen on the 22nd and wrap up on the 23rd.

The tent is a jungle, this light has clearly over grown the plants for their space which must be the cause of these tiny buds. I'm going to get a lot of great hash though!




You can really see the damage from the nute shortage here.


Here's my monster bud, still looking awesome!



Tonight is where the weeks update gets interesting. After taking the above pictures and thinking I decided all these small buds were just pulling away from the tops I want big so I might as well cut them off, I figure better late than never. I only have a week and a half left and 4 days of that will be a flush so I'm not expecting much of a difference but maybe It'll get a little more weight on the buds. I'm a bit worried it will just stunt the plant in it's final week, but it wasn't putting on any weight anyways.

Before


After


There is way more light hitting the floor and much less of a jungle in the room. I wish I had of done this 4 weeks ago, another lesson learned.

Here's the trim bucket afterwards, I took a ton of tiny popcorn buds off the plant. I was surprised how much I ended up with, definitely should have done this a long time ago. This should make some pretty nice hash and butter




I didn't expect to get so much scissor and finger hash off this little crap so low on the plant, but wow!



I've been thinking of maybe doing some video updates, so here's a little one


 

Eric Farley

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Well I just learned the term nanner and after looking it up realized I've had one since the nute shortage a few weeks ago. That means there's a chance these plants have become pollinated and that's why the buds aren't growing
Man that nute shortage messed this grow up more than I thought. There is a ton of trichomes on the plant which makes me hope if didn't get pollinated but I'm a total noob so what do I know... I'll find out for sure in a week and a half.
 

Milo 420

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Ya know that's weird two of my megas thru nanners to and the others did not I noticed some buds got one seed or some got like six my stuff is not completely seeded so I took the two that had the nanners out
 
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