250w HPS Club And Help Guide

stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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I have read that if your not using a flushing agent, that it is better to use a weak nute solution rather than str8 water. Arjan from greenhouse seeds flushes with E.C 1.1 then lets the pot dry out for 5 days then feeds E.C. 1.8.

Grazzmon posted a recipe for diy clearex earlier in the thread. I flushed with clearex regularly about 7-14 days and fed 1/4 to 1/2 str nutes immediatley after flushing.

Here is the link to Greenhouse seeds grow tv. At the 3:12 mark is where they talk about flushing I think.
[video]http://www.growhd.tv/video/Kalashnikova-Grow-Video-2011-HD/6c7a695f76989f855fb154594b289033[/video]
 
10acjed

10acjed

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Yeah I was using a dab of nute on my finger to bring the Ph down when I am doing straight h20. I also have a flushing agent, used that the first time about 2 weeks ago and followed it with nutes, however it was full strength which is where the problems I see now came from. Last week was just h20 ph'd to 6.5, and then Bloom & KoolBloom mix on thursday @ 6.5. Hoping to see some progress mid week...
It started with my Ph being way low, around a 5.8 RO, then I over did it when trying to correct and ended up with a RO of 7.0.
Been tryig to only put 6.5 or so through now to try and keep it level...

I just snatched up 4 gallons of RW I am going to use later today and do a minor flush with it.
 
stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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Sounds like your lockout might be ph induced. Ph is very touchy and different growing mediums require different ph levels, as do different strains. I run hempy buckets using str8 perlite and I like to keep my ph 5.6-6.1. Any higher than that I begin to have lockout problems. My first grow was ph avg 6.6-7.0 and by week 6 began to have P lockout problems.
 
10acjed

10acjed

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I am in soil, FF Ocean Forest. Using bottled distilled h2o. Started without a Ph meter :-/ which is where the problem started.

As of last week I have brought my RO Ph down to 6.6 on 2 of them, which have not been showing much lockout, and the others were still up around 6.8 - 6.9. I didnt want to over do it again, so I have been feeding a strict 6.4 - 6.6 and hoping it starts clearing up...
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Since I left for a few days, sex has shown in 2 plants (GIRLS!) and all of them have exploded with good growth.

Jamaican bud is a girl and for the first time ever, the plant I put the most care into is a girl! Kaya gold is female!!!!!! *Does a happy dance*

Here's the latest greenscapes.

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There's a little condensation on one leaflet, it was hidden under another leaf when the plant was transpiring. I just thought it looked cool.
 
Dr. Kundilini

Dr. Kundilini

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stoneslacker, Really good videos. The first one, I watched yesterday. The dry ice thing is amazing. What planet have I been on all these years? Never too old to learn!
 
RCgrowerman

RCgrowerman

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Due to the fact that i have enough seeds to last a year and multiple strains to choose from im going to do one of my auto pineapple express with just my T5 panel start to finish. This is completely for fun and i have plenty more for the hps to get some action!
 
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tk86high

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Gr8fulGreen said:
I sometimes use a 250 watt MH for early vegging for my 3 x 3 x 5 grow area. But once there is some substantial vegging growth to penetrate I switch to 400 watt MH / HPS. I'm sure 250 watt can do the job on a couple small plants, dwarfs of scrog, I just find the 400 watt works best in the space I use.
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Ive got the same setup size , but only have the 400W HPS light ?
So u think I should get a 250w MH for the first few weeks then once the plant looks nice and big I put on the 400W HPS?
What about the first few days of growth ? same 250W MH light or something smaller?
Thanks
 
10acjed

10acjed

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MMMM Broseidon buds....... Hope this drool doesnt short out my computer....

My girls loved the h20 yesterday, perked right back up. Trying to be patient and let things take their coarse is tough.. Feel like I need to do something. The lockout has me worried, was hoping it would have cleared up by now but it hasnt, the buds are fattening up and the vertical growth has stopped.

May just do a flush this week with cleaning solution.
Should I Ph my cleaning solution? Also how many gallons of clearex do you folks use when flushing?

tk86high said:
Ive got the same setup size , but only have the 400W HPS light ?
So u think I should get a 250w MH for the first few weeks then once the plant looks nice and big I put on the 400W HPS?
What about the first few days of growth ? same 250W MH light or something smaller?
Thanks
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You can do either. You can go the whole grow under the 400w hps, keeping it a little high the first week or two. Or you can use a 250W MH. The MH will limit the stretching, run cooler and use less power. Then switch to the HPS to flower...

DubVitals said:
Can I join just got a 250w hps and electronic ballast :)
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Yes, but we need a valid ID, 2 major credit cards, proof of insurance and your first born male offspring. :-P

Welcome to the club.... What are you growing?
 
stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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10acjed said:
MMMM Broseidon buds....... Hope this drool doesnt short out my computer....

My girls loved the h20 yesterday, perked right back up. Trying to be patient and let things take their coarse is tough.. Feel like I need to do something. The lockout has me worried, was hoping it would have cleared up by now but it hasnt, the buds are fattening up and the vertical growth has stopped.

May just do a flush this week with cleaning solution.
Should I Ph my cleaning solution? Also how many gallons of clearex do you folks use when flushing?


Yes you will have to ph the clearex. I use at full strength, 15mL per gallon and flush with 2-4 qts clearex solution, then 2x pot volume in 1/2 strength nutes if I think its a deficiency, or plain water if I overferted.
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10acjed

10acjed

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stoneslacker said:
Yes you will have to ph the clearex. I use at full strength, 15mL per gallon and flush with 2-4 qts clearex solution, then 2x pot volume in 1/2 strength nutes if I think its a deficiency, or plain water if I overferted.
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Thanks, thats what I read and just wanted to be sure. I am pretty sure its a lockout, I have been doing nute - water - nute so I dont think it would be over fert at this point. I was planning on 1 gal of clearing solution and 2 gal distilled, then nutes.

I have just about every form of deficiencies I can find pics of, yellow leaves, spots, brown dying tips, lower leaves dry and falling off... one plant is bad, the other two are just minor. And my sativa is so-so.

As I said tho, first my Ph was low, then high so I figure thats why I am seeing it so much now. Figuring a good flush at 6.5 and see what happens...
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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I just bought me a 250 Hps and digi ballast...i'll be posting picks when it arrives Thursday and I set t up.

Quick question, I plan on using 4 x 30w CFL's for low level light...am I still allowed to join??
 
JayJayDaStoner

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I have this DinaFem cheese auto under my 250 at 5" away. Super easy strain really stable from what I saw showed fem at day 23 and been budding ever since. 1/3 ff trio till last 3 weeks which started yesterday only molasses and water from here out


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