250w HPS Club And Help Guide

@10acjed...Your plan sounds really solid to me. Stopping the neuts and watering with sweetners is kinda of like a flush. I read on the WWW (where everything is absolute truth..LOL) that flushing solutions were primarily water with Sucrose, Dextrose (sugars) added. The sugars bond with the fert salts and leech them out as the H20 drains. Some of the sugars are attached to the soil and the helpful bacteria benifit(repeating what I read, I haven't fact checked anything). Last year I used plain water flush, then held off on watering until I cropped everything about 4 to 5 days later. Your molassas(sugar) and water feeding is kinda, sorta, like a flush, but you would need to use enough water to make it drain/runoff. Best luck!! I think I am at least 3 to 4 weeks away.

Dr. Kundilini said:

@10acjed...Your plan sounds really solid to me. Stopping the neuts and watering with sweetners is kinda of like a flush. I read on the WWW (where everything is absolute truth..LOL) that flushing solutions were primarily water with Sucrose, Dextrose (sugars) added. The sugars bond with the fert salts and leech them out as the H20 drains. Some of the sugars are attached to the soil and the helpful bacteria benifit(repeating what I read, I haven't fact checked anything). Last year I used plain water flush, then held off on watering until I cropped everything about 4 to 5 days later. Your molassas(sugar) and water feeding is kinda, sorta, like a flush, but you would need to use enough water to make it drain/runoff. Best luck!! I think I am at least 3 to 4 weeks away.

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Yeah thanks. Today I ran 1 gal with molasses through her. Checked the trichs, some cloudy, maybe a couple amber but hard to tell. Tough to be steady with a handheld scope for me.

Plan for now is to do 1 Gal + molasses on Wed, then again on Sun, check trichs and hopefuly let her starve for the week and cut her down the following Sat.
The other two are still at least 3 weeks out.

Here is the one I am thinking 2 more weeks on.. Seem about right? I know hard to tell from a pic, but..

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Over the last few weeks she really started getting fat, looked denser and bigger than the other two. Now however the other two have out grown her, buds are bigger and still getting fatter. I pinched one between my fingers, nice and tight, gooey and sticky, and smells strong and sweet.

On your first flush if you are not using a flushing agent, a weak nute solution say 10-20% strength will leech more salts than plain water/sweetener. I would flush with the weak nutes then continue with water/molassess then.

I did not know that slacker. Could you explain why?

georgyboy said:

I did not know that slacker. Could you explain why?

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I wish I could remember where I read that. It has something to do with needing something for the salt to latch onto and flush out of the medium. I think it may have been Arjan from greenhouse seeds. I know he recommends flushing after weeks 3,5,7 and final with a nutrient solution of EC 1.0 and then waits 5 days to let the pot dry out before feeding at EC 1.8. I know a little bit about EC and ppm and I think EC 1.0 is around 500-700 ppm and EC 1.8 is around 900-1500 ppm. I would really like to get a hanna or truncheon tri-meter but I already spend too much on this enjoyable albeit expensive hobby. So unless I have a falling out with my buddy and have to start growing for myself in earnest, I am going to stick with my caveman methods.

Speaking of my buddy, I just got some blue cheese in from him today. This bud is so stinky and tasty, but produces for shit and my buddy is removing it from the rotation soon as he can get another cheese of some sort to replace it. It's kinda sad as she is one of my favorites for sure. So Cheers to all my fellow 250 mf'ers! You wanna get high?

I love getting high.

Plants are gone now and I've replaced them with cuttings from a Canadian plum, Honeysuckle and Maple. When my roommate decideds to rat me out the the landlord I can show him what I've been doing.

Word of reminding to all those who've experienced rats.

Snitches get stitches.

Good to see your ok man. You truly never know what people are like till you live with them.

I'm completely willing to accept all consequences from laws. I know what I'm doing there but you don't fuck with a mans home.

hey guys how close should my 250w MH be from my 10 day old seedlings?
I got a 250w mh in a cooltube about 16 inches above them

should it be closer/further away?

thanks

stoneslacker said:

On your first flush if you are not using a flushing agent, a weak nute solution say 10-20% strength will leech more salts than plain water/sweetener. I would flush with the weak nutes then continue with water/molassess then.

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I had already did my first water + molasses yesterday when I read this. I still have 2 more times to do it before starving her, should I do a clearing solution next time?

Not looking for the purist technique, but also dont want it to be harsh or hard to burn...

Kalebaiden said:

I'm completely willing to accept all consequences from laws. I know what I'm doing there but you don't fuck with a mans home.

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I feel ya there brother. Just plain weak to f with someone.
I dont even grow at my place, the Mrs isnt supportive of it, which I can understand. Its not about what we have researched and know, they picture helicopters with feds crashing through the windows like we are El Padrino or something LOL..
But I respect that. I have a silent partner, old hippy friend, she was going through chemo struggling with bills and said "we should just grow our own" so here I am... She could care less, and would have a field day with the media if she was caught. All 90lbs of her, bald with 3 plants.. Yeah a real threat to the community LOL...

jesburger said:

hey guys how close should my 250w MH be from my 10 day old seedlings?
I got a 250w mh in a cooltube about 16 inches above them

should it be closer/further away?

thanks

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How many sets of true leaves are your seedlings sporting? Once they get 2 sets of true leaves they are usually pretty strong and you can hit them with more intense light. I have an open hood 250 with a fan blowing between the canopy and the bulb and I keep my light 6-12 inches no more. I would think with a cool tube you could stay right around 8 inches no problem. I would drop your hood to 12 inches, monitor for stress in a couple days then drop in 2in increments till you find your "goldilocks" zone.

10acjed said:

I had already did my first water + molasses yesterday when I read this. I still have 2 more times to do it before starving her, should I do a clearing solution next time?

Not looking for the purist technique, but also dont want it to be harsh or hard to burn...

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I would still hit them with a flushing agent or 10% nute solution. Then I would flush with water at 3x the pot size. The object when flushing is to strip the medium of nutrients so the plant has to use what nutes it can find or use them from within. I would "starve" them, but would still give water up till 3-5 days until you chop. The plant still needs water and light to transpirate and use what nutes are still available.

stoneslacker said:

I would still hit them with a flushing agent or 10% nute solution. Then I would flush with water at 3x the pot size. The object when flushing is to strip the medium of nutrients so the plant has to use what nutes it can find or use them from within. I would "starve" them, but would still give water up till 3-5 days until you chop. The plant still needs water and light to transpirate and use what nutes are still available.

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Sounds good thanks.

glad to be in cali and a med pat.

So I am out walking the dog last night, the neighbor comes up and says he thinks he got my mail in his box. Hands me an envelope...

Sure enough it was addressed to me. Talk about luck, and good neighbors...

I like freebies too... Thanks to Herbies Head Shop

cbtbudz said:

glad to be in cali and a med pat.

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Me too lol

10acjed said:

So I am out walking the dog last night, the neighbor comes up and says he thinks he got my mail in his box. Hands me an envelope...

Sure enough it was addressed to me. Talk about luck, and good neighbors...

I like freebies too... Thanks to Herbies Head Shop
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Hey I was thinking about ordering from them too.
How long did it take?

ace720 said:

Hey I was thinking about ordering from them too.
How long did it take?

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About 2 weeks, but they sent them out next day. Happy with them for sure. Will review the seeds in a few months.. Buy 4 get three free...
Actually was just looking at SOS, they have a Sagamartha special right now, order any pack and get like 9 free... Always when I can't afford it....