250w HPS Club And Help Guide

cbtbudz

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I just started my next grow and I'd like to hear some opinions from my fellow 250watters. I planted the seeds on the 12th and now I have 14 little seedlings in about 3/4 gallon pots that they are staying in until finish. Most are perlite/verm mix and some are coco. I'm growing hempy style using dyna grow line nutes. Right now the plants only have their single blade leaves, and the next set is forming. They are currently under lots of cfls. I'm just wondering when you would switch to the 250 MH? Also, right now my plan is to top the plants at the 3rd node, and top the top shoots again as they grow in and strip the rest of the plant. Like main-lining but only to four tops. This should take a little over three weeks then I plan to flip the lights to flower. My original plan was 12/12 from seed. What would you do? Like I said I just want to hear some other grower's opinions. It helps me think things through. Lights right now are 18/6.
i was checkin that mainlining thread try it man id like to see what happens
 

RCgrowerman

Active Member
If your water is coming out like that then you would not need to pay as close attention as myself i get 7.2 out of the sink.
 

brettsog

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im using a different type of airpump to most. its a submersible air pump. hydor ario. £15 for the basic one, and can airate 25ltrs of water with absolutely no sound. im starting to think its that which has made the roots grow so much as it pumps out so many teeny tiny air bubbles. the water is 4" from the top of the bucket and you can still feel the bubbles popping on your skin if you hold your hand 12" above the bucket. only down side is that is has a sponge pre filter and it has to be cleaned everyday otherwise it gets clogged and doesnt work as well.
 

brettsog

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tell me about it. i live in quite a hard water area as well which makes me wonder...... who knows. but its working at the minute. i dont even have in my possesion ph up or down. (have vinegar and bicarb at the ready if i do need either.) i have urine strips from a gp (shhhhhh) which i can chech ph on if i need to, but touch wood. things have been fine so far.
 

Dr. Kundilini

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Do I see white hairs coming out of the balls?
@KS420, Sure looks like a hair in the photo. I got the plant out of the garbage to look again. It has balls in clusters, though not as large, all down the main stem and side branches. There are hairs from small beginnings of flowers, along side the balls.
I agree with cbtbudz, that it is a Herman...I had problems with a couple hermans last year from this strain...the ones that were pure females were pretty good, and it is DSCF0740.jpgthe best I had to plant, so here I am, back fighting males and hermes to get that one or two really good females. I have better beans for the next run.
Including an image of my pocket scope. You guys probably already have a good magnifyer, but this is under $4 on Amazon and is easy to use. 30X on low power(what I use) and goes to about 60X(too much for looking at balls and hairs. Bright light LED too, batteries included.
 

RCgrowerman

Active Member
IMG_0507.jpgDay 5 flowering for the Mazar twins

Group photo of all my ladies being wined and dined. The two Mazar kush were a freak of nature two plants from one seed and as reported by many others one grows much healthier than the other. But the weaker one is still a beast itself so its all a bonus to me not to mention the seed was a freebie for getting the top 69!
 

georgyboy

Active Member
Im goin to let the plants tell me what to do. Depending on how quickly they grow, I will either flip tthem after a
couple weeks of veg or I will mainline for four tops. My only concern is root space. I'm using one gallon bottles with the lid cut off. They only hold like 11 cups of medium. I don't want the plAnts to outgrow their containers because I don't have the space to pot them up.
 

cbtbudz

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pic1:everything not in flower execpt 1.
pic 2 and 3:blue larry with 2 tops bent over.
pic4 and 5: blue larry#2
pic6 sfv og.
pic7 and 8 blue larry #3
pic9 and 10 power.
 

10acjed

Active Member
Can a newbie get some tips? LOL

Counting down...

I am 7 weeks (49 Days) since switching to 12/12. And I am about 5.5 weeks (38 Days) since seeing flower growth. This is supposedly an 8 -10 week strain, one pheno seems a little farther along than the other two, more orange hairs showing anyway. But after a bloom feeding the other day I see new growth on the buds, tops and sides. They are getting full too. Right now I can easily estimate 17 3 - 5g top kolas, and they should fill in more, makes me happy for sure...

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I am planning on doing water + molasses for the last 2 or 3 waterings, figure a week or so before harvest. I can get either unsulphered cain molasses or unsulphered blackstrap molasses. Which is better?
Going to put the scope on them today and see how the trichs are looking.
Also is there anything wrong with just letting them grow until ready to harvest and cut them, or should I starve them before i cut? I just read alot of different threads on harvesting, not looking for "the best way" but just want to be sure I dont mess up all this work by not doing something right..

Planned method: Cut them, trim down the leaves, hang them in my tent. Once the stems crack when bent (not break) then take them down, trim the stems and put in tupperware closed for 24 hours, then open for 12, rinse and repeat til desired dryness...

Thanks
 

stoneslacker

Well-Known Member
Can a newbie get some tips? LOL

Counting down...

I am 7 weeks (49 Days) since switching to 12/12. And I am about 5.5 weeks (38 Days) since seeing flower growth. This is supposedly an 8 -10 week strain, one pheno seems a little farther along than the other two, more orange hairs showing anyway. But after a bloom feeding the other day I see new growth on the buds, tops and sides. They are getting full too. Right now I can easily estimate 17 3 - 5g top kolas, and they should fill in more, makes me happy for sure...

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I am planning on doing water + molasses for the last 2 or 3 waterings, figure a week or so before harvest. I can get either unsulphered cain molasses or unsulphered blackstrap molasses. Which is better?
Going to put the scope on them today and see how the trichs are looking.
Also is there anything wrong with just letting them grow until ready to harvest and cut them, or should I starve them before i cut? I just read alot of different threads on harvesting, not looking for "the best way" but just want to be sure I dont mess up all this work by not doing something right..

Planned method: Cut them, trim down the leaves, hang them in my tent. Once the stems crack when bent (not break) then take them down, trim the stems and put in tupperware closed for 24 hours, then open for 12, rinse and repeat til desired dryness...

Thanks
To flush or not to flush. There are lots of opinions on whether or not flushing your plants does anything but deprive them of nutrients their last few days of ripening. My friend grows in ffof soil, never flushes and I cant seem to taste anything wrong with his bud. One thing I do notice is the way his and mine burn differently in a joint. His bud burns unevenly sometimes, burns with a black ash and sometimes goes out when smoking. My bud burns evenly with a nice white ash, and almost never goes out when smoking. There are a few threads on this site that swear you are doing more harm than good by flushing, but in my own personal experience I think flushing makes a better product.

I would recommend using glass mason jars instead of tupperware. While I have no experience using tupperware the thought of plastic with my fresh buds is not appealing to me. Nice sterile, impervious glass is the way to go imo.
 

stoneslacker

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Im goin to let the plants tell me what to do. Depending on how quickly they grow, I will either flip tthem after a
couple weeks of veg or I will mainline for four tops. My only concern is root space. I'm using one gallon bottles with the lid cut off. They only hold like 11 cups of medium. I don't want the plAnts to outgrow their containers because I don't have the space to pot them up.
How many plants are you running? Have you thought about a 12/12 from seed SOG. This would help with your root space and overall space too. I think with the gallon bottles you should be able to get them packed together pretty close. Looking forward to it and I will check you out at your GJ. Peace
 

stoneslacker

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pic1:everything not in flower execpt 1.
pic 2 and 3:blue larry with 2 tops bent over.
pic4 and 5: blue larry#2
pic6 sfv og.
pic7 and 8 blue larry #3
pic9 and 10 power.
Man your stuff always looks so frosty and delicious cbt! Props man
 

stoneslacker

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A little progress on my own grow. SPIDER MITES! I hate these little fuckers, and I went to war on them. I haven't started the heavy chems yet, just doused em with neem oil, bleached my grow area and inspected all leafs removing what I could. I will treat with neem for a couple weeks and monitor the situation, hopefully it works or I will try the no-pest strips everyone is talking about.

U1 is growing right along. I am training her hard, tying off and shaping her branches in multiple directions. I use the screen for much of my training, but will also tie limbs off to the pot or the screen to manipulate her branches where I want them.

U1
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U2 is starting to get ramped up a bit. She is hitting the screen in multiple places now and I am lightly training her so she will grow a bit faster. Once I get a few side branches to penetrate 2-3 inches over the screen I will begin training her in earnest.

U2
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AP2K

Active Member
Sup 250ers? Setting up my tent as we speak.

Tent is 2 x 3 x 6. The light came with a 19" long cooltube. My question is, how much ventilation will I need? Will I really need to run ducting on either side of the tube and out of each end of the tent? Fans?

If it matters, the tent is in a bedroom that is AC cooled to 78F all day long. Really need any opinions, thanks.
 

10acjed

Active Member
To flush or not to flush. There are lots of opinions on whether or not flushing your plants does anything but deprive them of nutrients their last few days of ripening. My friend grows in ffof soil, never flushes and I cant seem to taste anything wrong with his bud. One thing I do notice is the way his and mine burn differently in a joint. His bud burns unevenly sometimes, burns with a black ash and sometimes goes out when smoking. My bud burns evenly with a nice white ash, and almost never goes out when smoking. There are a few threads on this site that swear you are doing more harm than good by flushing, but in my own personal experience I think flushing makes a better product.

I would recommend using glass mason jars instead of tupperware. While I have no experience using tupperware the thought of plastic with my fresh buds is not appealing to me. Nice sterile, impervious glass is the way to go imo.
Yeah I saw some mason jars at wally world pretty cheap. The "tupperware" I may use is glass too, just with a rubber lid.

I cant get a feel on the flush part. Figure just lay off the nutes for the last week, put some molasses in see how they come out and try something different next time if I find something wrong.
Too many debates here already to start that thread. some do some dont.. I will a little, but really its not "flushing" but using water + molasses the final 2 or so feedings.

Was wondering if there is anything wrong with just letting them go til they look ready and cutting. I see some leave them in the dark or starve them etc. I was hoping to cut all the tops and then check the lower growth with a scope, maybe letting it go an extra week to fill in a little more.
 

RCgrowerman

Active Member
Sup 250ers? Setting up my tent as we speak.

Tent is 2 x 3 x 6. The light came with a 19" long cooltube. My question is, how much ventilation will I need? Will I really need to run ducting on either side of the tube and out of each end of the tent? Fans?

If it matters, the tent is in a bedroom that is AC cooled to 78F all day long. Really need any opinions, thanks.
ventilation is key with hps. I use a 400 cfm motor for my 2*2*6 tent and it keeps temps 68-75 depending on time of day. I dont have experience with cooltubes but i would imagine they would work better with cooling than traditional hoods. keeping airflow in between the canopy and light is also very important to combat heat stress with the plants. btw i started with a 190 cfm and it was not even close enough to cool the tent so keep that in mind while shopping for yours. Hope this helps happy gardening =)
 

ace720

Active Member
Yup I use two 250cfm dutfans and my temps still stay 90-95. I just think whatever temps you get at first you got to keep around
 

I85BLAX

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This one looked like the others in my tentView attachment 2303992View attachment 2303997, just a little behind in developing, until....this morning if found this....see attachment

I am not taking any chances. I had a bad experience last year "waiting to make sure". If it looks like balls, it getting the AXE!
Herman Sherman! I had an auto in my veg area that kicked hella sacks. But I let it since there isn't anything it could hit but itself.
 

Southtexasman87

Active Member
I have a 1.5x1.5x4 foot tent with a diy cooltube room temp 73-78 and tent tempo with a 150watt stay about 82-86 running at night I've been wanting to run a 250 but ink yet and that's on a 190 cfm with out a carbon filter
 
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