250 hps question

keifcake

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How much space is needed below a 250w HPS? Does it still need a lot of space above the canopy like a 600 or 400?
I have a box 3 foot tall by 3 ft wide, by about 2 ft deep.

Im running all CFL now with about 330 watts...
IF enough room, do you think a 250w HPS would produce better results, id more than likely be using some of the 55 watt CFL i have with it as well to get it back to around 350 watts(space permitting)
 

Rotweiller

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Hello keifcake. Here's a few Light Charts to give you an idea for setting your lights up. I Hope they are of use for you :wink:
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If you can get a HPS in there then Go For It :mrgreen: You won't believe how much the Girls will love it :weed: and your final yield will be Bigger and Better :clap:
Just remember though, You will have higher Temp's so will need good ventilation and a good Oscillating Fan.
Good luck with the light and Happy Growing :bigjoint:
Rotti.

Edit: I've just thought, You could get a Cool Tube for the HPS Bulb and Suck the Heat straight out of the Cab. That should keep the Temp's right down to acceptable levels.
 

keifcake

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thanks a lot!! i can definitely use those. ill be using a cool tube w it, im sure it shouldnt be much hotter in the tube than the 8 cfl. I think i have good ventilation, its 4" tjerlund fan. pulls all the heat =out now with the scrubber. theres 2 smaller fans i use cuz of size that work good at moving air around.

bigger btter is what im looking for!
FRom what ive seen i shulds get a good improvement even at 100w less even if i dont use the cfl w it
 

keifcake

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awesome charts, i think the 250 is the max ill be able to get... the 150 wouldnt penetratew much further than the 55w cfl i have now.
a 400 wouldnt give me hardly any optimal space without being to close.

Whaat kind of yield gains could i expect? 30% or so maybe?
 

Rotweiller

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I'm on my First Indoor grow with a 600 Watt Duel Spectrum HPS so i couldn’t tell you what to expect But when i switched from CFL to HPS my 4 Girls just Doubled their size Every Night. It was like growing Outside under the Sun :weed:
 

keifcake

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Cool, i cant wait to order it! Prolly be about a week or so.

I want the air hood, but itll take up a couple extra inches up over a cool tube with a reflector.
Having 3 ft high total space, ill need every inch i can get.. luckily i already have a 4 inch elbow sticking in the top of the box, so all ill need is a 6">4" reducer fitting.

If i get it within a week or so, on the next set going in the box ill have used uncle bens topping method for four colas and using a pot over 2x the size of what im using now..
I was running a lot of smaller ones trying a bunch of strains.. Ive got it down to where im comfortable using the space on less and getting a few zips of each instead of the 1/2-1zip.
 

keifcake

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what size pots do you use?

Ill using 1 gallon next, and one of them imma do a dwc in. I have a pump and stone already, and the nutes i use for soil are flora nova, so their basically dro nutes anyway.
I wanted to start out that way, but changing H2O woulda been a hassle. I think i can manage one without being to bad.
 

Rotweiller

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It sound's like you have a better idea of what you are doing than i do lol...
I must admit, I'm Very Happy with my light as the Weather here in the UK is Cold, Windy & Wet.
My Outside Grow last year was Stolen while Curing in the shed. and i need something to smoke & pass the time until my next Outside Grow so i spent a few £$ and started inside :weed: so this is all new to me :dunce:
I don't know if i'm making any sense now as it's 5.40am here so i'm going to hit the sack :wink:
If i can help you with any advice just give me a shout and i'll do my best for you 8)
Happy Growing
Rotti.
 

keifcake

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I think i do, but it never hurts to check before throwing money at sumin ya know.

That sucks about the theft, Id have been sick for about a week. I like indo lol, its easier to keep secret..

Thanks for the help.
 

Rotweiller

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i use 7.5 litre and 10 litre inside and 14 litre upwards outside :-P and BioBizz Grow/ Bloom, AN CarboLoad & BigBud. and like you i'm setting up a dwc or bubblephonics of some sort in about 4/5 weeks after my girls are finished flowering. AK47 & Pineapple Chunk :weed:
I'll catch up with you later and leave some more details for you :bigjoint:
 
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