25 Years old Seed! Need Help!

Smuggler

Active Member
Thanks everyone for help & answers :)

We will take care of em! None germed yet! Hope 1 or 2 will pop at least. Going to buy Superthrive today and use it for that! (Is there instruction on the bottle for the dosage for seeds?)
The GREAT thing about SuperThrive is that it is a B12 vitamin and you can’t hardly use too much of it. It is non acidic so far as a reasonable concentration goes. It isn’t a food per say, it’s primary use is to revive and strengthen weak plant cells and promote better root goowth.

I would use ¼ teaspoon in 1 quart of water to soak the seeds and cubes.
 

Lady

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The GREAT thing about SuperThrive is that it is a B12 vitamin and you can’t hardly use too much of it. It is non acidic so far as a reasonable concentration goes. It isn’t a food per say, it’s primary use is to revive and strengthen weak plant cells and promote better root goowth.

I would use ¼ teaspoon in 1 quart of water to soak the seeds and cubes.
Exellent! Good to know my friend.

Wish you a good day! I am drinking a good coffee while browsing this forum for more information and try to help fellow growers ;)
 

HowzerMD

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Seeds have been found in 4000 year old pyramids that have germinated - but they were NOT MJ.

I have found that seeds that were 5 years old lost their viability. Maybe they could have been stored better, but I would not seriously expect seeds older than 5 years to reliably germinate.
I guess the this evidence of us popping beans from the 70's is quite a shocker then eh? Yes, you probably could have stored them alot better.
 

Talrox

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Hey lady i had the same problem at the beginning of this year, Don't give up!
I found 5 seeds no real clue how old they are or where i got them from lol!
seeing as it's been over 20years since I've purchased seeds i guessed they must of been from the last batch of skunk and never never land i bought.
off topic, anyways i had the same issue and i never remembered it taking more then 2days at most for a taproot to pop out but i didn't want to give up on oldies that easily so i just left them sit in distilled water for 8days! and sure as shit they popped.
they didn't seem to suffer from the delayed pop at all, in fact 2 of them 1 from each seemed to grow with extra vigor, So they went outside this is the nevernever land taken a few weeks ago (photo 1)
And this is my Skunk ^^ as you can see the other plant in this picture has nothing on the skunk, (photo 2) mind you both of these plants have a month and a half of veg on everything else i have, But to me those numbers just don't add up lol.
Sorry for the temporary hi-jacking i hope to god you can get those genetics going that's exciting just to think about!

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Dwezelitsame

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when i have old and stubern seeds i soak in peroxide between napkins pour it off the next day do the between the napkin thingy with peroxide as well its only water and air try it might help

and then again seeds might be shot maybe not stored correct to germ

good luck
1Luv
 

Smuggler

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Just stay the course and let them soak in the magic elixir of new life. Patience grasshopper, lol. S
 

Talrox

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Like the saying goes... Good things come to those who wait. Smuggler knows what i'm talking about
 
If you're starting to see a white dot take a closer look to see if the seed casing is cracking open, it sounds like it's the root starting to pop. And yes seeds are viable for alot longer than seed vendors and people that believe their shit say they are. I popped some seeds my father gave me that were from 1974.
thoes were almost as old as me
 

SouthernGanja

Active Member
I would imagine that even MJ seeds are there in that Doomsday thingie. Hemp is very usefull.

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Copied from OSU:

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Keeping a plant seed dry is the most important storage rule in maintaining its viability.

Susan Stieve, curator of the Ohio State University Ornamental Plant Germplasm Center, said that too much moisture is the biggest contributing factor behind seed deterioration that floriculture professionals can avoid through proper seed storage.

"The higher the seed moisture content, the quicker the seed quality will degrade," said Stieve. "The most important thing is to keep the seed as dry as possible."

Stieve will discuss the basics of seed storage, factors behind seed deterioration, rules of thumb to follow when maintaining seed quality and the storage life of various plants at the 2002 Ohio Florists' Association Short Course. Her presentation will be held on July 16 at 8 a.m. The educational event and trade show will take place from July 13-July 17 at the Greater Columbus Convention Center and will bring together professionals from around the country to discuss a wide variety of topics pertaining to the floriculture industry. Over 180 seminars will be presented.

Seed deterioration is an unavoidable and progressive biological process that growers and seed companies can better manage by recognizing factors behind seed deterioration and following basic storage rules to improve longevity and enhance performance.

Stieve said that relative humidity and temperature are the two main causes of seed deterioration, although many other factors such as genetics, seed structure, seed chemistry and physical and physiological qualities can be a predisposition for seed deterioration.

"Rate of seed degradation depends on the type of seed that you have and the overall storage life of the plant," said Stieve. "Understanding what type of seed you have and its relative storage life is the first step to effective seed storage."

Stieve said that growers and seed companies can also follow a few basic rules of thumb when keeping temperature and relative humidity in check. Every 10 degrees Fahrenheit decrease in storage temperature doubles the seed storage life at temperatures above freezing. Every 1 percent decrease in seed moisture content doubles seed storage life.

"Basically, the colder the storage conditions are, the longer the seed will remain viable," said Stieve. Researchers at the Ohio State Ornamental Plant Germplasm Center maintain seed storage a few degrees above freezing which allows for seed storage of up to 20 years. The National Center for Genetic Resources Preservation, based in Fort Collins, Colo., stores seed at zero degrees Fahrenheit, maintaining seed viability for at least 50 years.

"Most growers won't have a need to store seed for that long of a period of time," said Stieve. "They should leave such storage concerns to seed companies and determine seed needs on a yearly basis."

She added that seeds represent only 5 percent of production costs, so growers should consider the risk of planting stored seed as opposed to purchasing new seed.

"Seed viability is economically important in the floriculture industry. On an agronomic scale as a whole, it is estimated that 25 percent of the annual value of inventoried seed is lost because of poor seed quality, much of which is a result of poor storage conditions," said Stieve.

The floriculture seed industry worldwide is estimated to be a $500 million-a-year business. According to the International Seed Federation, the value of seed in 2002 was estimated at $4 billion and is expected to increase to $20 billion by 2010.

"That's quite a lot of money for such a small product," said Stieve.

To help reduce seed losses, Stieve recommends that growers use opened seed within six months and unopened seed within 12 months, retest all stored seed prior to sowing, allow seeds to reach room temperature before opening package and store opened seed packages with a seed desiccant - a product that helps keep the seeds dry.
 

Lady

Active Member
Hello,

Been reading all answers and would like to thanks everyone sharing info in this post. Very appreciated !
Im going to bed for now and wish everyone a good night!
Hope tomorrow will bring some tap roots to those seeds :)
*Cross finger*
 

Artificial emotion

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Forget this nonsense of putting seeds in paper towels. Put it straight into some moist compost and sieve some fine compost over the top so that it's lightly covered and lightly water with tap water. Leave it in a warm place until it germinates and then put it under some CFL lights. The paper towel method is unnecessary and sometimes even counterproductive as you need to move the delicate germinated seed by hand which can cause damage (even if it doesn't you're still doing something completely unnecessary).
 

BoomerBloomer57

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Ooh oooh oooh,

Speaking of ladies from columbia,,,,,,,

Nah, I cant. mvf will cure my nads and make me smoke em,,,,,,,

But we have a 25 year old Lady of amazing properties, with a daughter that is 15 years old.

Making a special-special place for them because they thrive under a canopy, not direct light.

can't wait for Uber Lab to get built.


Good luck with them Beans! Love and care for em.

bb57^

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