220 Watt CFL- Soil - Indica Dom Strains - 3 Females

Grandaddy87

Well-Known Member
Hello Everyone. We are currently on night 15 of 12/12

I'd like everyone to know this is all for personal use and I have no intent to sell or distribute anything with this grow. Fuck you police. :leaf:

Plant Info
Planted - 12/11/10
Flower - 1/14/11

Genetics: My buddy had a 9 gram nug and I said I wanted it and he gave it to me for 70$ and it was some potent improperly curred and over dried chrondizzle and I got 7 seeds from this nug.

All 7 of them germinated through a soak in room temp ph'd water until they sank and then the paper towel in plates method overnight and all of them had cracked or grown a root within first 30 hours except one which i just tossed.

I noted from what I had heard were "female" seeds and turns out I said plant #4,6 and I got both those right. I ended up with 3 females, 1 determined male, 2 lengthy most likely males. one had 11 pronged leaves and looked insanely cool.

Anyways I went into this just wanting 2 females at most. Didn't think 7/7 would germinate yet 6/6 grow all well to the same height/size. Ended up with most likely 4 females. I transplanted 2 of them into 1 gallon pots and kept the other in a 16 oz. Kinda a trial plant minimal LST. Minimal nutes. (Pics Later)

Soil, Light...etc.

:leaf:Lighting:

Veg - 211 Watt total
(2) 55 Watt CFL 2700k
(3) 26 Watt CFL 6500k
(1) 23 Watt CFL 3000k

Flower - 220 Watt total
(2) 55 Watt CFL 2700k
(2) 42 Watt CFL 2700k
(1) 26 Watt CFL 6500k

:leaf:Soil

The original 16 oz. party cup has Epsoma's organic soil or something like that. I ran out for the 2 transplanted ones so I filled the rest of the 1 gallon with MiracleGro organic soil.

:leaf:Nutrients/PH

The current water I use is terrible and I'm most likely going to have salt build up or something. I need to buy a Brita filter or something. But I've Ph'd the water between 5.8-7.0 the entire time so that should not be an issue (Hopefully...).

Veg
Better Grow orchid mix.
30-10-10
I found the ratio appealing and had all the micro nutrients needed. Kept them decently green throughout veg. Kept ratio low. 1/4rd tsp/gallon if that.
I'll most likely switch to FloraNova's veg nute, forgot the name.

Flower
FloraNova Bloom
4-8-7
I'm having really good success with this product. Hadn't had a single deficiency yet. Have lost maybe the first 2 or 3 sets of leaves on each plant total.

Grandma's Mollases
If anyone has any advice on amount or when the best time to use this. Please lemme know.

Grow Box

Space - 18"W 18"D 43"H (2.25 sqr foot)

(2) 80cm computer fans at the top for exhaust. Intake is a hole at the opposite corner at the bottom.

Also in the box I have a 8" fan that blows the shit out of the plants so they are sturdy as fuck.

Temps

Daytime - 77-82 :D
Nightime - 64-68

CO2

There are 4 humans and 4 dogs and 2 birds in this house. I think ima gud. :leaf:

Odor

This may be an issue. Been looking at carbon filters. I can get a 4" inline for like 60$. I can always try air sponges until its a real issue. Right now it isn't a problem at all.

Expected/Projected Yield

2.25 sqr feet = 77g

I got these calculations with the build off of 350g/sqr meter. Also you have to consider I tied each plant down in a single spot and thats it. No HST, just a simple LST.

The other calculation goes into play with .3g/Watt for CFL and .5g/Watt with HPS.

220W x .3 - 66g

Either way they are surprisingly close calculations and my goal is to beat the 66g one with 3 plants so an average of 22g per plant. This is very unlikely seeing as this is my first grow but I'l be happy with 40g total off of 3 plants.

Other Info (skip if you are a normal person)

Currently very high...prob forgot a lot. I try to go into detail just because I know when I was mad researching I liked the small random facts you learned from each grow.

First week 20/4 Light cycle
Second through fourth week 18/6 Light Cycle.
Until 12/12 I then switched it to 14/10 Light Cycle.
12/12 for 15 days today.

This is due to the fact that I read somewhere that the most natural and less of an adjustment the plants had to make, the less they would stretch and be more ready to flower. I think this was very true and has worked.

Nutrient rotation. I only gave the plants water every day or two. waited until the pots were entirely dry (ya know when you just pick it up and its extremely light). Every 3rd time I gave them nutrients so was probably around 4-5 times with the last one being the flowering nutes during veg lighting.

Currently under the flowering cycle each plant has gotten nutrients once due to the fact of the transplant of new soil, I figured it could survive off of that for a week or so while it adjusted. There wasn't any stunt at all from transplant, noticed new growth overnight.

The one in the 16 oz cup didn't get nutes nor and transplant and I noticed today it had mad potassium deficiencies and was the 2nd furthest into flowering so I hit that dog up with some FloraNova bloom.

I give them a folair spray almost daily with a very very diluted nutrient solution PH'd. Also I always keep my water sitting out for a few days. Whenever I water the plant, I just refill the container and let it sit entire time between waterings.

Anyways I decided tonight to make a grow journal and the growbox is currently dark so all I have is some pictures from my phone today, just 3 and they aren't that good of quality or even good pictures in general. There isn't even a picture of the biggest plant in there. I have a very nice camera for future picutres.


:leaf:Last night the plants were almost dry and I decided to just not water because I really wanted the roots to expand and not waste room so when I woke up they were droopy and pots were light as a feather so I watered them and then took a few pics so they are not as droopy now. :leaf:

Anyways sit back and enjoy the grow. +Rep for helpful input/conversation.

I will ignore you if you are ridiculous.:wall:


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The Freebird

Active Member
Very cool, tuns of info. My Maui is 2 days behind yours in flowering, day 13 for me and this is my first grow as well so I'll be following yours. Good luck bro and happy growing
 

sicks string samurai

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Heyo-Gran! Looking nice my friend. The only thing i can comment on, with my experience. I noticed you said your top temp is 82 degrees. This is apparent. you might not be able to tell right now, cause you're addicted to growing the stuff now. :) Anyway, to me it looks like the particular strain you have doesn't really like those 82-degree days. She looks kinda droopy to me. Try to keep the temps between 74-78. 80 is kinda the threshold for certain strains. Good luck man, look forward to seeing the end result!
 

Grandaddy87

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Ok it was too much of a hassle to get the nice camera to import pics so i'll do that when they actually are flowering more. So for the next week or so it'll be with my phone (still aren't that bad)

Plant 1 (Largest, slowest to start flowering. 8 heads)

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Plant 2 (My favorite, probably a perfect plant for SOG, refuses to bush out, 5 heads)

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Plant 3 (Runt, 2nd furthest into flowering, had/has phosphorous deficiency if you look at the stem its purplish and plant is light in color)

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Grow box (hard to take a pic)

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Grandaddy87

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I noticed you said your top temp is 82 degrees. Try to keep the temps between 74-78. 80 is kinda the threshold for certain strains.
Ya I definitely agree, also they are droopy cause they were dry right before the pics but they are looking happier now. But I notice if the temps go any higher than low 80s, immediate unhappy so they are probably 75* girls.

Im working on my growbox slowly for next grow (multiple future grows) this is a trial run basically in order to see what I need.


Im not sure how to quote people in the same response but thank you everyone for stopping by. ill be around in a second to check out your grows
 

Grandaddy87

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With the 16 oz cup its about every 1.5 days and with the larger one its about 3 days. I just go off of how feather-like the containers are.
 

clitlover

Member
I have learned with not much help or others input, be carefull of the roots to become to cramped or root bound, that will slow it down if not stop growth. In door is new for a lot of us, its not like it was in the 70s you could do this in your yard without any problem, good luck
 

sicks string samurai

Well-Known Member
Ya I definitely agree, also they are droopy cause they were dry right before the pics but they are looking happier now. But I notice if the temps go any higher than low 80s, immediate unhappy so they are probably 75* girls.

Im working on my growbox slowly for next grow (multiple future grows) this is a trial run basically in order to see what I need.


Im not sure how to quote people in the same response but thank you everyone for stopping by. ill be around in a second to check out your grows
Here's another pro tip (of which i havn't been doing lately, due to reasons beyond my controll) Try to water an hour or so before lights cut off. These plants do 90% of their growing in the dark, or "night" phase. This is especially good, when watering with nutrients.

Also, Right next to the "Reply with quote" thingy, is a little quote box, with a tiny plus sign, click that for multiple replies to people.

Check ya later holmes
 

Grandaddy87

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I have learned with not much help or others input, be carefull of the roots to become to cramped or root bound, that will slow it down if not stop growth. In door is new for a lot of us, its not like it was in the 70s you could do this in your yard without any problem, good luck
Ya if i can I want to move my favorite one into a 2 gallon or 2.5 gallon, I personally like square pots, they seem to be more efficient for the space they take up. Id move the small runt into the 1 gallon. But this is just a trial grow so next one will be way better.

Here's another pro tip (of which i havn't been doing lately, due to reasons beyond my controll) Try to water an hour or so before lights cut off. These plants do 90% of their growing in the dark, or "night" phase. This is especially good, when watering with nutrients.

Also, Right next to the "Reply with quote" thingy, is a little quote box, with a tiny plus sign, click that for multiple replies to people.

Check ya later holmes
Thanks for the tip. I was reading the other day about the best time and how often to spray the plants, they said in the "morning" and "dusk" because thats when the stomatas open up on the plant so this would also make sense probably for watering.
 

Grandaddy87

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I gave them filtered PHd water the first time between last update and then yesterday I gave them 2/3rd bloom nutes and 1/3rd veg nutes.

These pics are from yesterday (about an hour after watering)

Big Mamma
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Harrietta
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Runt
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Grandaddy87

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thanks for stopping by smokey

checked out your grow and its looking nice and green, goodluck on getting a woman +rep
 

Grandaddy87

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Plant 1 (3 weeks into flowering, prob 4-5 more)
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Plant 2 (2 weeks into flowering, prob 6-7 more)
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Plant 3 (Idk how long cause of deficiencies)
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Been getting yellowing at the bottom, been trying to raise my humidity to 30% plus but has been in 20s. Gave it some veg/bloom nutes and then filtered water yesterday. Lovin' how that first bagseed is turning out.

Any suggestions/comments?

got the perfect amount of time to pack a bowl while they upload! bongsmilie
 
Looking real sick man! Like it. I am about to get my first OG Kush clones and start my grow. Built out a small cab with about 230W of CFL lights. Nice to see some simular growing conditions! Subbed
 

Grandaddy87

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nice nice, what kind of temps are you running?

Im thinking about for my next grow getting a 150w HPS with 2 plants in a DWC 5 gallon buckets and just run those. in a dresser thats 18"Wx30"Land like 4 feet high
 

sicks string samurai

Well-Known Member
nice nice, what kind of temps are you running?

Im thinking about for my next grow getting a 150w HPS with 2 plants in a DWC 5 gallon buckets and just run those. in a dresser thats 18"Wx30"Land like 4 feet high
Think about it dude, you're downgrading in terms of light. If i were in your shoes, i'd stick with the CFLs, unless you plan on going past 500w of HID lighting. A tiny benefit (imo) is that you can sometimes place CFL lights in certain areas around plants, to get maximum light coverage over the whole plant.

In other news, your plants are looking quite nice dude! Keep it comin'!
 
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