2012 the end or not???

oh plus there have been disasters since the world exists.
EVERYONE is born to die.
back in the 30's my grampa was telling me stories of how his family and everyone in the world or whatever thought it was the end.
this world is about war, over population, man made things and polluting.
if the world is going to end in 2012, its just ourselves destroying our selves.

Believe me, Missxaliex, even with all the bad shit that we human produced, we WILL NEVER have the power to destroy our planet completely...

We cant, but something outside of our powers can, IE a planet! think about it, these people have talked about this for so long, and u know what. i believe em, and i am a person that likes proof, hardcore evidence, and something concrete. i just need that, and when i watched those videos, man, it make me think, what if, what if when that planet comes around it his part of us? what if when it comes around it stops the earths rotation.

i don't think we could ourselves but were playing a huge roll in the destruction.

but like i said, our earth replenishes itself.

NO NO NO NO and NO. This 2012 is a long perpetuated myth that millions of Americans believe. It talks about it in Zeitgeist - The Movie, but that movie just skims the surface of a few things.

First off, I study(ied) the ancient world, and real history, not text book lies. By constructing a timeline of events, you can make a line of when the planet Niribu has been close to earth. The Sumerians, and Egyptians both knew and glorified the planet Nibiru, Planet of the Crossing. This is represented by the Egyptian/Sumerian/Akkadian Cross, which is identical to the "Maltese Cross", and Christian crosses. It represents the planet of the crossing, a long with Egypt's winged disk which represents Nibiru.

To make a long story short, by using historial corroboration and not online myth, you can place the appearence of Nibiriu mathmatically somewhere around 2160, rouuggggly. However, since it's happened in the past and can happen again, you might beable to give or take some years due to celestial disruption in some way.


Seeeeeeeeeeeecond of all, the Mayans did predict the end of the world, but in many prophecies such as in the bible, word is never used. It should be AGE. The mayans predicted the end of the age, which is in line with the end of the Zodiacal age of Aquarius! To start off, I will explain how people arrive at the number 2012. The Mayans had 3 calendars in total, and revolved around a sacred 52 years which has more meaning but will not get into... The start of the long count calendar, is said to be August 3rd 3113 B.C. The Mayans also had different lengths of time, such as Pictun's Baktun's, Tun's, etc... The long count calendar, had 13 Baktuns( 13 baktuns = 1 great cycle ), with 144,000 days being in one Baktun

Now lets do some math. 144,000 days x 13 baktuns = 1,872,000 days = 1 Great Cycle
Take one great cycle, and divide by the length of time in a year, 365.25.
Now subtract the start of the Mayan calendar in years, 3113, to convert to our time.

You're now left with the year (2012.566).

However, one flaw exists with this theory. As stated by some author in the 1800's, insted of dividing the great cycle by the exact year, you must divide it by the mayan long count's calendar's perfect 360 which would result in the mathmatetically perfect 5200, and would align with mayan math. You then subtract the 3113 and then arive with 2087.

Now, to sum it all up, the mayans said it would be a spiritual / lighting / awakening, not any kind of end.

Cheers hope I explained everything well and taught someone something.
No worries about the end of the world, just worry about the people who will control you

kirby said:

Now, to sum it all up, the mayans said it would be a spiritual / lighting / awakening, not any kind of end.

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There is nowhere any direct source of what the Mayans actually believed would happen- only speculation. The Mayans did however associate the end of this age with the return of the
Quetzalcoatl- there serpent bird god. Anyone familiar with ancient symbolism would be aware of the implications this predicts- the return of the union between the physical world and the spiritual. Another great point is that every major religion predicts the coming of their 'savior' or 'messiah'.. all religions predict the joining of spiritual and physical as things 'once were'.

kirby said:

NO NO NO NO and NO. This 2012 is a long perpetuated myth that millions of Americans believe. It talks about it in Zeitgeist - The Movie, but that movie just skims the surface of a few things.

First off, I study(ied) the ancient world, and real history, not text book lies. By constructing a timeline of events, you can make a line of when the planet Niribu has been close to earth. The Sumerians, and Egyptians both knew and glorified the planet Nibiru, Planet of the Crossing. This is represented by the Egyptian/Sumerian/Akkadian Cross, which is identical to the "Maltese Cross", and Christian crosses. It represents the planet of the crossing, a long with Egypt's winged disk which represents Nibiru.

To make a long story short, by using historial corroboration and not online myth, you can place the appearence of Nibiriu mathmatically somewhere around 2160, rouuggggly. However, since it's happened in the past and can happen again, you might beable to give or take some years due to celestial disruption in some way.


Seeeeeeeeeeeecond of all, the Mayans did predict the end of the world, but in many prophecies such as in the bible, word is never used. It should be AGE. The mayans predicted the end of the age, which is in line with the end of the Zodiacal age of Aquarius! To start off, I will explain how people arrive at the number 2012. The Mayans had 3 calendars in total, and revolved around a sacred 52 years which has more meaning but will not get into... The start of the long count calendar, is said to be August 3rd 3113 B.C. The Mayans also had different lengths of time, such as Pictun's Baktun's, Tun's, etc... The long count calendar, had 13 Baktuns( 13 baktuns = 1 great cycle ), with 144,000 days being in one Baktun

Now lets do some math. 144,000 days x 13 baktuns = 1,872,000 days = 1 Great Cycle
Take one great cycle, and divide by the length of time in a year, 365.25.
Now subtract the start of the Mayan calendar in years, 3113, to convert to our time.

You're now left with the year (2012.566).

However, one flaw exists with this theory. As stated by some author in the 1800's, insted of dividing the great cycle by the exact year, you must divide it by the mayan long count's calendar's perfect 360 which would result in the mathmatetically perfect 5200, and would align with mayan math. You then subtract the 3113 and then arive with 2087.

Now, to sum it all up, the mayans said it would be a spiritual / lighting / awakening, not any kind of end.

Cheers hope I explained everything well and taught someone something.
No worries about the end of the world, just worry about the people who will control you

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woooah.
thats good, see i've always wanted to know WHO the mayans were, i did alot of studying on them but the way you made it sound is like...
idk but that made me think

i like when i do that so cool!! good job explaining that

kirby said:

NO NO NO NO and NO. This 2012 is a long perpetuated myth that millions of Americans believe. It talks about it in Zeitgeist - The Movie, but that movie just skims the surface of a few things.

First off, I study(ied) the ancient world, and real history, not text book lies. By constructing a timeline of events, you can make a line of when the planet Niribu has been close to earth. The Sumerians, and Egyptians both knew and glorified the planet Nibiru, Planet of the Crossing. This is represented by the Egyptian/Sumerian/Akkadian Cross, which is identical to the "Maltese Cross", and Christian crosses. It represents the planet of the crossing, a long with Egypt's winged disk which represents Nibiru.

To make a long story short, by using historial corroboration and not online myth, you can place the appearence of Nibiriu mathmatically somewhere around 2160, rouuggggly. However, since it's happened in the past and can happen again, you might beable to give or take some years due to celestial disruption in some way.


Seeeeeeeeeeeecond of all, the Mayans did predict the end of the world, but in many prophecies such as in the bible, word is never used. It should be AGE. The mayans predicted the end of the age, which is in line with the end of the Zodiacal age of Aquarius! To start off, I will explain how people arrive at the number 2012. The Mayans had 3 calendars in total, and revolved around a sacred 52 years which has more meaning but will not get into... The start of the long count calendar, is said to be August 3rd 3113 B.C. The Mayans also had different lengths of time, such as Pictun's Baktun's, Tun's, etc... The long count calendar, had 13 Baktuns( 13 baktuns = 1 great cycle ), with 144,000 days being in one Baktun

Now lets do some math. 144,000 days x 13 baktuns = 1,872,000 days = 1 Great Cycle
Take one great cycle, and divide by the length of time in a year, 365.25.
Now subtract the start of the Mayan calendar in years, 3113, to convert to our time.

You're now left with the year (2012.566).

However, one flaw exists with this theory. As stated by some author in the 1800's, insted of dividing the great cycle by the exact year, you must divide it by the mayan long count's calendar's perfect 360 which would result in the mathmatetically perfect 5200, and would align with mayan math. You then subtract the 3113 and then arive with 2087.

Now, to sum it all up, the mayans said it would be a spiritual / lighting / awakening, not any kind of end.

Cheers hope I explained everything well and taught someone something.
No worries about the end of the world, just worry about the people who will control you

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thank you kirby! this was a perfect explanation. whether you believe in the Return of Christ or an Awakening of Consciousness, it's all the same thing.


"No worries about the end of the world, just worry about the people who will control you"

couldn't have said that better. control of the populations has grown significantly in the past years.

Microdizzey said:

thank you kirby! this was a perfect explanation. whether you believe in the Return of Christ or an Awakening of Consciousness, it's all the same thing.


"No worries about the end of the world, just worry about the people who will control you"

couldn't have said that better. control of the populations has grown significantly in the past years.

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its true. it pretty much is the same thing, but thats when you have to worry. when people start controlling the world.
isn't there a person who will actually rule the world, in a bibical sense? i was reading something who was REALLY christian and thats when we have to worry. idk its hard to explain but does anyone know what im talking about?

Well, the Mayans were a flourishing ancient civilization, who were roughly around the same time as the late Sumerians, Egyptians. People overlook Ancient Civilizations and the technology... or information they had. I guess textbook history... in school was meant to put a spin on things -- the things they don't want you to know, you will never hear of.

Let me throw some information at you..
The Sumerians, are an ancient culture, who created the first civilization we ever have record of. You know, when you learned about those ancient society's in between the Tigris and Euphrates? Literally, out of the stone age around 7,000 years ago we see a culture, and civilization pop up out of nowhere! The Sumerians are known as the "Civilization from Nowhere", and many other things. Why this is amazing? Out of nowhere, we have this civilization that invented the wheel, agriculture, language, systems of law, religion, the Zodiac, astronomy & astrology, and everything else.

The celestial formula's the Sumerians had, to track the stars, constellations, make and predict events, were much more advanced than even the Egyptians, who came much later! The Sumerians had information of all 12 of the planets -- with our moon being in there. They counted and refereed to planets counting from the outside in -- earth being #7. They even found a battery that can conduct 1.5-3 volts when filled with a weak acid, nicknamed the "Baghdad Battery". They even had knowledge of Electrolysis and gold plating, and depending on how well you know history and what you want to believe.. they also had knowledge about Genetics, and many other things.

They created cylinder seals, which, when rolled over a wet piece of clay creates a reverse image. In some of these cylinder seals, it shows clearly the sun as the center of the solar system, along with all the planets in their correct orbit, and relative size! It's not until 1960's where we discovered Pluto, and not until the Renaissance when they heliocentric theory was put out by Copernicus. The Sumerians also explain how our solar system was formed, how the moon was created, and how the asteroid belt was formed, all still modern enigmas that are still being figured out. Surprisingly.. or maybe not so... A lot of sciences new theories corroborate exactly what the Sumerians said 6,000 years ago, about Genetics, Space, The moon, Asteroid belt, comets, meteors, and many other things...

Now, the Sumerians invented writing and language, and their writing was called Cuneiform Script. It was taking wet clay tablets, carving into them with a stylus to create semi-pictogram's, and then baked into stone. Because of the stone tablets, we have hundreds of thousands of them today. Interesingly enough... the whole book of Genesis from the bible is Sumerian. A lot of it, WORD FOR WORD can be found on Cuneiform Script, or in Akkadian version which were Sumerian copies. Modern archeology has proven the great flood to be true, and the importance is that all the stories and people of Genesis, are Sumerian stories and maybe not myths...

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness

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So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him; male and female created he them.

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First of all, if you look at the Hebrew versions of this text, the word god is "Elohim" in Hebrew. This is Plural for GODS, not GOD, among many of the hundreds of mistranslations in the bible.
Also take note of this,

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness

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There's more than one god? Keep in mind all of Genesis is Sumerian.

So I'll cut to the chase and leave you guys to do the rest. The Sumerians worshiped Anthropomorphic gods. They said they looked as if human, acted as if human, and had human personalities. They called their gods, "Annunaki" which means "Those who from heaven come to earth" roughly. The Sumerians claimed they got all their information they knew from these gods. Some other mistranslations in the bible, is the word "giant/nefilim" in the bible. In the bible, it says "giants once roamed earth", and "there once was a time when giants walked among men, gods walked among men", etc.. etc...

And Ish'bi-be'nob, one of the descendants of the giants

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The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

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And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim); and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them."

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Now, why would it be mistranslated to Giants? Well the word for Giant in Hebrew is "Anakim"... a hebrew rendering of the Sumerian "Annunaki" ( They were much larger ;] )

woooooah. thats amazing lol.
but how did they have or know so much when there was no technology?

xmissxaliex said:

its true. it pretty much is the same thing, but thats when you have to worry. when people start controlling the world.
isn't there a person who will actually rule the world, in a bibical sense? i was reading something who was REALLY christian and thats when we have to worry. idk its hard to explain but does anyone know what im talking about?

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yes the Anti-Christ (which means replacement of Christ) is suppose to come into the world during chaotic times to bring a message of peace, and deceive the populations into believing his promises of peace and prosperity and unity of all nations on a global scale. with WWIII around the corner, we'll be able to see if this Anti-Christ figure does actually show up. there are also suppose to be lesser Anti-Christ figures, who either claim to be or act as if they are the One, that will show themselves before the official man comes.

some people think Obama is the Anti-Christ but eh.... maybe. his speech in Berlin was pretty shocking because of his statements about tearing down walls between nations and whatnot. and the popularity he has gained, and all the media attention. aaaand it is getting really close to WWIII which could bring out a nuclear holocaust. so we'll see what happens. i wouldn't count on him being the One though. but it's a possibility!

yeah but don't you think since most of us know, we could stop it before anything happened?
lol obama? idk how he'd take over the world. idk what to think of him because he can't make up his mind. it is a possibility but i'd like to think its not. haha

How can Lazarus cry out if he was dead? Clement says with his own words "Not all truths should be told to all men".
Lazarus was under going a death and rebirth ritual performed by Jesus. The power of the Jesuits have is that they keep
the mystery of the unknown -- unknown. These poor people that cant find, or wont seek the truth, would rather have it
dictated to them by people of power, jesuits know that, and the general public is in the dark. All while they control
the world. So they will belive anything that is dealt to them, the general public that is. As long as the Catholics approve.
68% of the world is catholic, Ehud Barak former president of Israel even bowed down to Pope John Paul, and was going to let him
build a cathedral on the site of the temple. But the orthodox Jews went berserk. The great anti-Christ these Christians have
book looking for, or waiting for is already here, and it has always been. I'm going to show you something, in the bible,
there is a lot of symbols, most of it is all symbolic, especially revelations. But it gives you some info. In that book,
the church is described as "Women". Read this.

"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. "

That verse is telling John that a church that sits on seven hills, not mountains (Mountains is a bad translation of the
origional greek), that, the church is the great anti-Christ, and the great Anti-God. Can you think of anyplace that
a church sits on seven hills? Did you guess the Vatican, well your right. Its called the "Seven kill kingdom".
Also it says that the dragons head in the middle that controls the rest has "Three Crowns". The pope is called
"The Triple Crown King". In the book of daniel, he says , he will change time and law. He has. He changed the
10 commandments, and the calendar. The law strictly forbids the worshiping of "Graven images" statues and what not,
also not even to make them. Catholics do both.

The first commandment forbids you praying to anyone else, or worshiping anyone else besides him.
Catholics worship Mary, Saints, Jesus in the place of god. Direct Opposition to him. God originated Saturday as the day of
rest, Catholics moved it to Sunday.

In revelations, I believe it is, they say, when the end of the world comes, the food in the grocery stores will be evil.
And if you feed your children with it, you will go to hell, and if you let them starve, you will go to heaven.

Well see, heres the thing, its not that simple. Thats for the everyday Christians, but.. sadly, it isent the truth.
The mark is "Knowledge", "Love", "Cleanliness". Nothing to do with anything physical. The forehead is symbolic
for the mind. Also, heaven and hell arent physical places, they are a state of being. Them being places is catholic
bullshit. The food shit, thats going to be the new economy coming. Its going to be universal, run by the pope.
Everyone will eat, as long as your part of the new system. I won't be one of them. That system will be run by the pople,
under the command of the evil god. Ive had dreams of that day, I was constantly running. I will pretty much just
find, make, or grow my own food.

Whats the point of this system, lets say, you had the power to make any woman fall in love with you. Wouldent you like
that power? Amplify that by 1000, and thats how the pope feels about power over the world. But, so what if its run by an
evil god, what does that effect in the long run, if theres no heaven and hell? Non-Existance. You will cease to exist.
When the creator comes to judge, I want to live forever. That can only be accomplished by what the creator wants.
The system will probably come into place, within the next 50 years, or sooner. New pope by then.
I know the pope is evil, even the bible attest to that. He is under the evil god, what ever you want to call him.

A little thing I just found, October 26th, 2005.

(
THE PROPHECIES OF ST. MALACHY
Pope John Paul II is the last pope before the beginning of the end times (2000).
Only two more popes will follow him during a period of great tribulation.

They are:
GLORIA OLIVAE; The Glory of the Olive
and finally PETRUS ROMANUS
"In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven hilled city (Rome) will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people"
From " The Prophecies of St. Malachy", 1969.
)

Think about what it means, think about everything I just typed out. Seven hilled kingdom? Sound familiar? I hope so.


More Random Shit:
Whats to come in the future?, Like the New World Order. Everyone will be under one rule, though most wont even know it.
They will think that are following god, or the creator. Read this.

5 For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
and even the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.

xmissxaliex said:

yeah but don't you think since most of us know, we could stop it before anything happened?
lol obama? idk how he'd take over the world. idk what to think of him because he can't make up his mind. it is a possibility but i'd like to think its not. haha

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well the world will be in chaos. people will not know what to do or know if they will even be alive the next day. everyone will be in such great fear, anything positive will sway the peoples minds. he will seem like a savior and the only way for safety. but there will be people who will be protected from his deceiving claims and promises and will know who he really is. but i'm sure you would be considered stupid and a loon for thinking he is the Anti-Christ.

just like the conspiracy theorists who claim that the government is evil and the New World Order is coming. everyone calls them crazy. soon enough everybody will be running to the nearest conspirator they know to get as much information as possible. time is speeding up and things are getting worse much more quicker as the days go by!

everyone watch out,we all goin die!

yeah, see thats a good way of saying it. i'm not catholic, but i am christian but idk i always knew that heaven and hell isn't physical, its your spirit, but it really just makes me sit down and think about all of this.

neo anarchist, ur a crack head and need to stop believing everything u hear. ahahahhaa its so funny how ur so confident lol... i would love to see ur face on 2012. fckin weird mother fucker

Let me see if I have this right. When this planet comes back around, the Earth will stop rotating for a week. This would pretty much do away with gravity, the atmosphere would disipate and everything would float away. Life as we know it will cease to exist. This happens every 3600 years. That means all this happened the last time about 1600 B.C. And every 3600 years before that. My question is, if this happened before, how is it that we are still here?

Here, takes some time to read through the thread I started..pretty cool stuff in there

https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/90381-2012.html