2010 South Carolina Outdoor Grow Show

someone else

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1st grow big is NOT organic nor is the tiger bloom. I use ff poducts too and your ratio is very high. I foresee a nute issue in your future. I never acceed 2 tsp of the grow big per gallon. My work speaks for itself.
1st, I actually never said Tiger Bloom was organic.

2nd, didn't know Grow Big wasn't 100% organic, although it does have organic components to it.

3rd, my plants seem to be handling my nutrient feeding just fine. As I've stated, I'll be flushing by not giving any nutes for a week, every month.

I'm using 3 tsp/gallon of Grow Big (1 tablespoon).

Thanks for your opinions though, they're always entertaining to read.
 

someone else

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Looking pretty good! Atleast its better than my buckets. Mine are getting killed by bugs but deer walk right past and don't mind my plants. Id rather have deer though because then i could just use nets or fencing but bugs are a bitch and hard to kill
Man I totally hear you on that one. I've dealt with horrible bug issues in years past. It's always a delicate balance between using organic sprays that will kill the bugs, yet not poison your plants.

Caterpillars suck majorly. I'm sure I'll be seeing those ugly bastards soon enough...haha.

This year, every time I go out to the plots, I ALWAYS hear deer getting up from where they were and run away. Every time. It's just crazy. If I was some dickhead hunter, I'd have a field day.

Deer have eaten over 50% of my seedlings, so I had to pony up and buy some deer netting which is working great.

Hang in there brother, and keep on checking those leaves.
 

ICantBelieveItsNotBud

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Man I totally hear you on that one. I've dealt with horrible bug issues in years past. It's always a delicate balance between using organic sprays that will kill the bugs, yet not poison your plants.

Caterpillars suck majorly. I'm sure I'll be seeing those ugly bastards soon enough...haha.

This year, every time I go out to the plots, I ALWAYS hear deer getting up from where they were and run away. Every time. It's just crazy. If I was some dickhead hunter, I'd have a field day.

Deer have eaten over 50% of my seedlings, so I had to pony up and buy some deer netting which is working great.

Hang in there brother, and keep on checking those leaves.
Im just going to head over to homedepot this weekend and pick up some sevin or tomato insecticide because i don't feel like being let down by organics. I have a variety of bugs i know some are aphids some weird black flies and i believe white flies. But my leaves look like holy shrivelled up shit its just sad. So im hoping the insecticides will kill and detere bugs for a week+ from each application. Btw i am a hunter :) but i wouldn't mess with your plants if i found them
 

someone else

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Im just going to head over to homedepot this weekend and pick up some sevin or tomato insecticide because i don't feel like being let down by organics. I have a variety of bugs i know some are aphids some weird black flies and i believe white flies. But my leaves look like holy shrivelled up shit its just sad. So im hoping the insecticides will kill and detere bugs for a week+ from each application. Btw i am a hunter :) but i wouldn't mess with your plants if i found them
Ha! That's why I said that...I've had an entire plot destroyed by what I found out to be a bunch of local redneck hunters. Heard the fuckers were bragging about it at a bar a while after it happened.

It's bad enough to have to worry about bugs, deer, and the elements...to have to deal with the human element wrecking your hard work just for shits and giggles...well you know.

I understand your vigilance in wanting to kill the bugs man, I really do.

Just keep telling yourself its safer than growing at your own house...and the yields are gonna be better. :-)
 

northeastern lights

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First of all, I'm quite envious of you! You sound like you have quite a healthy collection of plants.

To answer your question, I think it depends on what you add to your soil to start with, for instance composts, manures, bone/blood meal, etc.

I just started with a top soil/peat moss mix....and that was it. That doesn't give the plants much to work with on the nutrient side, so supplementing my mix with Fox Farm really makes a difference, especially in the nitrogen department.

After transplanting my wimpy plants into the buckets, from a month of being in ground soil, letting them adjust, and adding Fox Farm nutes, I've seen a strong turn around in the overall vitality of the plants. They seem stronger, and are making good progress.

So I would say do what you're doing brother, especially if you're using great organic nutes in the ground when you start out your plants.

But if you would like to boost your plants just that little bit more, I'd wholeheartedly recommend Fox Farms nutes. The Grow Big nutes are 100% organic, and the Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom nutes are made from natural ingredients.

For the 3 pack, it's around $50, but worth it in the long run. My 2 cents. :-)

Good luck and thanks for stopping by!
Man I totally hear you on that one. I've dealt with horrible bug issues in years past. It's always a delicate balance between using organic sprays that will kill the bugs, yet not poison your plants.

Caterpillars suck majorly. I'm sure I'll be seeing those ugly bastards soon enough...haha.

This year, every time I go out to the plots, I ALWAYS hear deer getting up from where they were and run away. Every time. It's just crazy. If I was some dickhead hunter, I'd have a field day.

Deer have eaten over 50% of my seedlings, so I had to pony up and buy some deer netting which is working great.

Hang in there brother, and keep on checking those leaves.



Moth balls and irish spring soap work great for me to deer and other big animals away. I wonder what they were hunting seeing as though nothing is "in season" till almost the end of the season.
 

junosurf125

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the location of your grow looks similar to where im going to soon begin first my guerilla grow. of course i live in florida, but i will be watching :joint::mrgreen:
 

someone else

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Moth balls and irish spring soap work great for me to deer and other big animals away. I wonder what they were hunting seeing as though nothing is "in season" till almost the end of the season.
Well, when I've had hunters in the past destroy a past grow, it's been near bow-season in the midwest, which starts around the middle of September...right during harvest.

When is 'in-season' for the 613?

As to the seedlings I've had eaten by deer...well I guess fresh foliage is always 'in-season' for a deer when not protected.

The deer net I put up after all that works pretty damn well so far, I was surprised.

NEL, I have a question for you about using soap. I've heard that soap attracts rodents big time, but works otherwise really really well. What's your experience with rats/mice/etc when using soap?

Thanks for stopping by man.
 

someone else

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P.S how much direct sunlight do your plants receive?
That's a good question. From what I can gather having being out there at different times in the late morning, I start getting direct sun around 10 or so in the morning, and I get it all day until dusk.

My spot is located in a world of hellish thorns and prickers, but to be on the safe side, I have my plants hidden in-between a forest clearing, and a set of christmas trees.

The trees are just tall enough to block the view of a plant that would grow even 8 feet tall. The sun comes over the top of the trees in the later morning. It sucks to lose those first few hours of morning sun, as that is the best sun a plant can get, but it's worth it to have a little more peace of mind in knowing they're concealed to the fullest.

It's unlikely as hell anyone would be in the valley that these plants are in, but if they are, they still wouldn't see them unless they made a major effort to look for them.

Good luck to you in your Florida grow.

I've always wondered how Florida growers do it with all the late season humidity outdoors, but that's the amazing power of marijuana....it'll grow anywhere! It's gonna be basically just as humid here in South Carolina...just hope I don't lose too much to bud rot this year.
 

someone else

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Well I just got back from the plot, did some watering, and general maintenance.

Really happy with the progress these plants are making.

It's only been 3 days since I was last out there, but I can notice definite growth.

Even my 7 Sour Diesel seedlings have popped up considerably since Wednesday. We've had a lotta sun, but it's been in the mid to upper 90s here, so I was worried they wouldn't make it.

Glad to be wrong...once again!

Here are the G13/Haze:

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Here are the Sour Diesel:

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here are the Sour Diesel seedlings:

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Those Fox Farm nutes are really rockin these plants in a good way. I will be flushing these in 2 weeks instead of a feeding schedule.

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Ah, very cool.

I read it a couple times on various message boards, but maybe it's just one of those urban myths without any validity.

When I get back to the midwest next year, I'll give moth balls and soap a try when I plant in the ground again.

Thanks for all your info!
 

capncash

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i grew some sour diesel in TN outdoors. It was amazing. best ever as far as yield and quality. It takes a loooooooong time tho. Best of luck.

why are you using the bloom ferts now? i never used it until bloom time, not sure what the tiger bloom bottle says tho..
 

northeastern lights

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Ah, very cool.

I read it a couple times on various message boards, but maybe it's just one of those urban myths without any validity.

When I get back to the midwest next year, I'll give moth balls and soap a try when I plant in the ground again.

Thanks for all your info!
Worked like a charm the last 4 seasons for me. I got a new video up in my thread you might like. I also use FF nutes. I really like the Marine Cuisine from FF too.
 

someone else

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i grew some sour diesel in TN outdoors. It was amazing. best ever as far as yield and quality. It takes a loooooooong time tho. Best of luck.

why are you using the bloom ferts now? i never used it until bloom time, not sure what the tiger bloom bottle says tho..
Because that's what Fox Farm's feeding schedule recommends.

Seems to be working just fine so far, and honestly, with the simple mix that I have for soil, the plants can use as many nutes as I can give them.

Good to hear the Sour Diesel is high yielding. Says these seeds are supposed to harvest around mid-October.
 

whiteflour

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I have another question for anyone that could help.

Because I had such stunted growth for so long (due to poor drainage directly in the ground), my plants are about a month behind schedule as far as overall growth.
Did they appear to be over watered? Since you say stunted it leads me to believe it's pH. I grew up in that area as well and from looks of your soil you got some kaolin and chalk going on? That clay soil can be your best friend during hot southern summers without it you got to do some watering.

I actually just wrote up a journal about this to determine the pH of an area by tree species. check out and find a better spot or adjust it next time.
 

TCurtiss

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SE,

I was just checking out your thread and it sounds like you have your plants in a good spot, a friend always said put them in places you don't want to go

And you can use fishing line and spray paint it with flat black paint to camo it to use as a perimeter fence

I used to be an outdoor kind of guy, but CAMP is no joke out here where I am,and they got my partner

You also may want to look at this --- > https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html

This will eliminate you using those bottles for nutes and can carry just the water, I do not miss those 5 gallon container - carrying them though the forest is zero fun

Good luck, I will pull up a chair for this one

T
 

someone else

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Did they appear to be over watered? Since you say stunted it leads me to believe it's pH. I grew up in that area as well and from looks of your soil you got some kaolin and chalk going on? That clay soil can be your best friend during hot southern summers without it you got to do some watering.

I actually just wrote up a journal about this to determine the pH of an area by tree species. check out and find a better spot or adjust it next time.
Well the soil is clay. Clay pure and simple. It's so hard to dig into...it took me an hour to dig a decent 3X3 hole earlier in the year when I was planting in the ground. Just merciless digging. I'm originally from the midwest, and I can't even begin to describe how hard the clay is here, compared to there.

So in bitching about that like I have...I gave up and decided to use buckets. The soil I put down in my original holes was fine, but because the clay under it had ZERO ability to drain, my plants would often sit in a watery-mud stew for days and days after a rain. Basically the entire month of May was just one big rain storm here, so my plants were constantly fighting for air, surrounded by water.

I humped in soil and peat moss, and reused what I could from what I put in the holes originally....and just started over with 5-gallon buckets.

It's disheartening to have to start over in the middle of the season like I did, but I was left with little choice considering the circumstances of the holes I dug.

I'm only here for this year, then I'm moving back to the midwest, where I'm more familiar with the soils and weather patterns.

I'm enjoying the longer summer here though. I couldn't grow Sour Diesel where I'm from, nor G13/Haze probably either, without succumbing to an early frost.

Thank you for stopping by!
 

someone else

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SE,

I was just checking out your thread and it sounds like you have your plants in a good spot, a friend always said put them in places you don't want to go

And you can use fishing line and spray paint it with flat black paint to camo it to use as a perimeter fence

I used to be an outdoor kind of guy, but CAMP is no joke out here where I am,and they got my partner

You also may want to look at this --- > https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html

This will eliminate you using those bottles for nutes and can carry just the water, I do not miss those 5 gallon container - carrying them though the forest is zero fun

Good luck, I will pull up a chair for this one

T
Hey thanks for the link and stopping by!

I actually put up deer netting that's 7' high around the perimeter of my plot. It's really working well, as I haven't had a single animal (knock on wood) penetrate it.

I'm lucky that the 5-gallon containers of water I hump in are on the downward portion of the valley I grow in. So I have gravity on my side, which is a huge bonus. I have access to a lake 2 football field-lengths away, but I have to go through a forest of hell and risk being possibly seen when I fill up the containers.




As of right now, I have 8 G13/Haze, 7 Sour Diesels (plants), and then I have 7 Sour Diesel seedlings that are making great progress.

I'll be happy as hell if I can pull 10 female from all of them, and a few ounces from each female.
 

someone else

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I was inspired by the video that NEL has on his grow page, so I thought I'd add a few blurbs about my little patch.

First video is of the 8 G13/Haze:

[video=youtube;z8zQJP_JRrA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8zQJP_JRrA[/video]

Second video is of the Sour Diesel:

[video=youtube;bSqA2nRvNJA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqA2nRvNJA[/video]

On Wednesday I'm gonna carefully spray paint those orange buckets green....gotta conceal them better than I have them.
 
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