2000 watt Diy CXB3590 build lets put it together

Hey all first i really would like to thank Rahz for guiding me into the right directions a person sure can get lost trying to find the right stuff .. what took me 24 hrs to accomplish nothing ,, he helped me in a hr

So being a New Year decided its time to actually build 2 Cob units 1000 watts a piece and see what there really capable of and running them against nanolux DE 's side by sides and eventually working side by side ...
I am excited to get this under way .. So with the help of everyone on here and as well as my personal friends / Pros in the field of putting this type of stuff together right its just time to keep my self busy during next month of chilling winter haha..

So first things first after deciding how we were to do this we came to a agreement to accomplish this we will need 10 - HLG185H-C1400B
5 per unit at total cost of 900 bucks for just drivers ,, buddy of mine i talked to today said wait to see if his electronic company can get a better price so mon or tues he will know..
Wednesday there ordered no matter what ..

Next thing in line is 40 cobs 20 per unit Goal here is 6500 K and 3500 K mix 10 - 10 per unit
so emailed kingbrite tonight on the availability of 6500 k or anything that is close to it
so hurry up and wait on that right ???
So pretty lucky here will make a cardboard jig and design it all measurements etc then hand it off to another best buddy of mine who will actually make my case he owns a tin shop / metal shop lathes mills plasma cutters etc so he is going to do all the design on the actual finsihed producy drilled holes and threaded holes Via computerized system ..
Might as well make it pretty as well but that is way ahead of the game .
internals parts misc buddy has as in connectors and what have you or needed only thing next i think is

Heat Sink ???? which once cobs and part design is figured out i will know also with the help of everyone here we can figure out something sweet

Welcome to the light side haha

Also my plan are to do things a little different being i am mixing spectrum's, and instead of flush mounting like most do
now i will need input and thoughts but plans are to run shims and angle the the cobs to what ever angle i get 4 - 10 degree ?? so both spectrum's hit canopy @ 28 " canopy top point in the the middle of the X so no need to have cobs so close to each other giving me a decent size spread

3 cobs on one side 6500 k or what i can get and 3 cobs on other side 3500 k both angled to cross paths right at the sweet spot of canopy

Anyways everyone's input is welcome and whats your thoughts on the shimmed 4 - 8 degree angled cob allowing spectrum s to cross paths around the canopy height or 28" from light source
So i am looking forward in building something like in picture

Kings brite is a pain in the ass to email and get quotes from.
I think cutter is cheaper with the riu discount and shipping is way less.
Good luck

torontoke said:

Kings brite is a pain in the ass to email and get quotes from.
I think cutter is cheaper with the riu discount and shipping is way less.
Good luck

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thanks guy looking for 40 cobs now most expensive hit of this build so anyone got links or coupons i need em thanks
and looking for 6500 k and 3500 k 20 each

Www.cutter.com.au
Cutandroll. Discount

They are an Australian company and is even a site sponsor.
$42.99 for 3590's

I just ordered from them, and have 4 3500k cxb3590s coming as I type this.
Not only does Cutter NOT charge a paypal fee, but prices and shipping are lower

torontoke said:

Kings brite is a pain in the ass to email and get quotes from.
I think cutter is cheaper with the riu discount and shipping is way less.
Good luck

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I agree, Jerry at kingbrite can be very slow in responding and the shipment costs are high.

How much area are you looking to cover? Do you really want all your cobs stacked on top of themselves like the fixture pictured in your post?

One cob per square foot is about almost over kill at 49 watts each 56%. Spreading them as Growmou5e or GreenGenes is a proven pattern. Putting them all together will make for one hell of a hot spot. There is plenty of overlap without having to angle the cobs, a complete seal/connection with the heatsink is far more important. As for mixing spectrum, personally I would go with one but if I were to mix it would go like this...

x o x o
o x o x
x o x o
o x o x

2ANONYMOUS said:

Hey all first i really would like to thank Rahz for guiding me into the right directions a person sure can get lost trying to find the right stuff .. what took me 24 hrs to accomplish nothing ,, he helped me in a hr

So being a New Year decided its time to actually build 2 Cob units 1000 watts a piece and see what there really capable of and running them against nanolux DE 's side by sides and eventually working side by side ...
I am excited to get this under way .. So with the help of everyone on here and as well as my personal friends / Pros in the field of putting this type of stuff together right its just time to keep my self busy during next month of chilling winter haha..

So first things first after deciding how we were to do this we came to a agreement to accomplish this we will need 10 - HLG185H-C1400B
5 per unit at total cost of 900 bucks for just drivers ,, buddy of mine i talked to today said wait to see if his electronic company can get a better price so mon or tues he will know..
Wednesday there ordered no matter what ..

Next thing in line is 40 cobs 20 per unit Goal here is 6500 K and 3500 K mix 10 - 10 per unit
so emailed kingbrite tonight on the availability of 6500 k or anything that is close to it
so hurry up and wait on that right ???
So pretty lucky here will make a cardboard jig and design it all measurements etc then hand it off to another best buddy of mine who will actually make my case he owns a tin shop / metal shop lathes mills plasma cutters etc so he is going to do all the design on the actual finsihed producy drilled holes and threaded holes Via computerized system ..
Might as well make it pretty as well but that is way ahead of the game .
internals parts misc buddy has as in connectors and what have you or needed only thing next i think is

Heat Sink ???? which once cobs and part design is figured out i will know also with the help of everyone here we can figure out something sweet

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Did I read $20 per cob? how so cheap? usually they are 47 from kingbrite?

PerroVerde said:

How much area are you looking to cover? Do you really want all your cobs stacked on top of themselves like the fixture pictured in your post?

One cob per square foot is about almost over kill at 49 watts each 56%. Spreading them as Growmou5e or GreenGenes is a proven pattern. Putting them all together will make for one hell of a hot spot. There is plenty of overlap without having to angle the cobs, a complete seal/connection with the heatsink is far more important. As for mixing spectrum, personally I would go with one but if I were to mix it would go like this...

x o x o
o x o x
x o x o
o x o x

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I agree, I have 2-5000k and 2-4000 k on one light and the plants grow different even though the cobs are only a few inches apart on the bar, they dont blend as much as one would think. Personally Loving my all 4000k set ups....could experiment with adding some deep reds and blues but 4000k is the best all around starting spectrum from my own and other experience.

torontoke said:

Www.cutter.com.au
Cutandroll. Discount

They are an Australian company and is even a site sponsor.
$42.99 for 3590's

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Cutter will be a lower price and they are an actual CREE dealer. Jerry will take a few days back and forth, but he got me 70 of the CXB3590s @ $44 a piece. Delivery same week in CREE packaging. Also bought the ideal holders on the same shipment.

Shipping was $85 to Denver CO.

To be honest I'm likely to go with Cutter for my next build but I would feel both out if I were you.

Thanks

The Pope

PerroVerde said:

How much area are you looking to cover? Do you really want all your cobs stacked on top of themselves like the fixture pictured in your post?

One cob per square foot is about almost over kill at 49 watts each 56%. Spreading them as Growmou5e or GreenGenes is a proven pattern. Putting them all together will make for one hell of a hot spot. There is plenty of overlap without having to angle the cobs, a complete seal/connection with the heatsink is far more important. As for mixing spectrum, personally I would go with one but if I were to mix it would go like this...

x o x o
o x o x
x o x o
o x o x

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Until i get cobs drivers and big cardboard box to play with placement I am thinking something that is 4 x 4 or even 5 x 5 unit or inbetween one big spread out unit

and i am also wanting to do something Different as well as many flush mount i want to make lt like a parabilc or wrinkled style hood ,,,,

Think of a 24 egg cartoon you buy in bulk but angled much less where cobs are not flush mounted but at a certain angle, shoud not be very har running a string square from center of cob so it intersects with other cob Around 28" mark so perect blend of both spectrums
this will also allow me to figure out cob placement being maybe 9 inches apart again who knows this is just idea

Would like input and everyone;s thought i there grasping what i am saying ??? i want all cobs to cross each spectrums path right at 28 " mark below unit which would be actual canopy of plant

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but the thing is all cobs are angled interesecting there partners @ 28 " canopy

Still got to get some guys to figure it out if i got any extra Amps maybe add 4 - 5 more cobs on the sides

1,000 watts or 20 3590 at 1.4ma 50 watts each in a 4' x 4' will fix you a PPFD of 1,567, in a 5' x 5' that would be a PPFD of 1,003...

Its got to beat my nano's big time in order or me to switch out 6900 watts of NEW DE's to all cobs 6900 worth but
would like to know what the umol per m2 in seconds

sorry to stomp ya thread seen it was active one min ago i am in the middle of a build right now just wanted to no is a pc heat sink ok to use to hold the cob diods 2 ? sorry again to stomp ya thread

An abbreviation for photosynthetic photon flux density, PPFD is a measure of the number of photons in the 400-700nm range of the visible light spectrum (photosynthetic active radiation or PAR) that fall on a square meter of target area per second

Anyways Also stopped in 2 big lighting tech companies today ... so will see what the best price on drivers are by Wed then i am purchasing them and then fully commited
then in another 2 weeks order all cobs week later order mechatronix and everything else mounting etc dimmer ,,,,
still in the air on active or passive heat sinks from cutter lost there

Great start to a promising thread. I am looking forward to tagging along.