2 weeks of drooping...

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Durkee13

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Im at my wits end with this plant...or maybe im worried bout nothing. This plant used to be perky...seems ever since I fed it a 1/4 dose of fish emulsion with ph balanced water it never looked the same. color seems good...at least nothing obvious (to my inexperienced eyes anyway). Its been very hot...end of day highs avg is around 90 degrees on a 80+ degree day...my grow room is in the attic...yes, not the greatest local in the summertime, but only choice i have at the moment. its not over watered, actually very dry what with this heat, so she been drinkin alot, RH is 50% +/- 10%, but its hard to maintain a consistent rh as my tent will over heat when its closed up, so ive had to open the tent up entirely to let the fans get air into it or it prolly get to over 100 degrees .
Im determined to find a way to make it work but this plant has not perked up in a couple weeks, I had a 1000 watt mars hydro led about 36" from the plant, and the intensity turned to the lowest setting.
I dont know if the heat is getting to her, if the fish fertilizer was to soon or not the correct amount or consistency, I dont know it it needs transplanted, if its too dry, too wet...ive let it go dry all the way to the bottom, watered her till she peed, and no changes. It seems to look the healthiest in the first hour or so after the lights come on. Plus it just looks like there is a lot of space between the nodes...

what do yall think???

NOTE: the soil is wet (happy frog) because i just watered it right before I took the pic
 

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Durkee13

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Just did some reading...I do believe I possibly have root rot going on? I have all the symptoms...high temps, slight light leaks through seems of my grow tent...it makes sense...but how would I verify that? Should I pull the plant out of the pot and look at the root ball and if its good transplant into a bigger pot?

Also, I read that if I "disturb the roots" at a early stage (i feel i have regularly as I use a moisture/light/pH meter to check the soil for moisture and I put the probe all the way to the bottom of the pot) it can damage some protective membrane on the roots that would typically protect them from root rot.
 
Casanova Frankenstein

Casanova Frankenstein

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I would bet it would be environment as the issue ... stifling heat does not make happy plants.
You should try to add silica to watering to help temper the heat and harden up the plant to the heat.
 
KingQuazy

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I don't see root rot. Looks fairly healthy to me. What I would do though is up my fans in that room since it's not likely you can throw in some ac up there. I suspect that she is praying when you're not around. Since you recently watered in these pics, is she starting to perk up now? She's also ready for a new pot too. That's half the reason she's so thirsty.
 
The303Yeti

The303Yeti

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Durkee13 said:
Im at my wits end with this plant...or maybe im worried bout nothing. This plant used to be perky...seems ever since I fed it a 1/4 dose of fish emulsion with ph balanced water it never looked the same. color seems good...at least nothing obvious (to my inexperienced eyes anyway). Its been very hot...end of day highs avg is around 90 degrees on a 80+ degree day...my grow room is in the attic...yes, not the greatest local in the summertime, but only choice i have at the moment. its not over watered, actually very dry what with this heat, so she been drinkin alot, RH is 50% +/- 10%, but its hard to maintain a consistent rh as my tent will over heat when its closed up, so ive had to open the tent up entirely to let the fans get air into it or it prolly get to over 100 degrees .
Im determined to find a way to make it work but this plant has not perked up in a couple weeks, I had a 1000 watt mars hydro led about 36" from the plant, and the intensity turned to the lowest setting.
I dont know if the heat is getting to her, if the fish fertilizer was to soon or not the correct amount or consistency, I dont know it it needs transplanted, if its too dry, too wet...ive let it go dry all the way to the bottom, watered her till she peed, and no changes. It seems to look the healthiest in the first hour or so after the lights come on. Plus it just looks like there is a lot of space between the nodes...

what do yall think???

NOTE: the soil is wet (happy frog) because i just watered it right before I took the pic
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It's just over watered. Dont water until the top of the soil is dry to the touch.
 
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ComfortCreator

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Gently pull the plant from its pot and look at the rootball, im thinking its on its way to rootbound. If so you did good it needs more space now.
 
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Theguyfrom85

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I had some of the same issues from overwatering. Also what temp are you rocking in that attic? Make sure you keep it at a most, 80F.
 
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Durkee13

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The303Yeti said:
It's just over watered. Dont water until the top of the soil is dry to the touch.
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This is what I dont understand...I use that moisture meter probe...its been shoved all the way through the middle and the needle was in the red...I water it and within 5 minutes shes sagging...I thought watering was good?! This time I purposely left the plant dry for an entire day...bone dry.

Unless the moisture huddled around the stem...cause I always probe in at least 2 places and always along the perimeter of the pot and all the way to the bottom watching that meter needle. Unless it's getting too much water at a time, I dont think the soil is staying wet...christ, it surely couldn't in the 90 degree environment! Lmao.
It's been once about every 2-3 days here lately I'll water it till it trickles out the bottom based on probe readings and how long it's been since the last watering...pH water given was 6.3
 
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Durkee13

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ComfortCreator said:
Its becoming too big for its container. Otherwise it looks great.
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That was taken care of based on this reply....and when doing so I checked the roots...they look good, white, not brown.

One thing I didnt do since I had just watered it, i didnt re-water the fresh soil, just packed it around the wet root ball. I did that within an hour of lights out, figured the quick switch to darkness would help the roots recover a bit...idk, I got it in my head daytime is leaf time...and lights out means root maintenance .
I also got rid of 2 opposite bottom branches that were yellowing and broken
 
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ComfortCreator

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In your first post you said they were just watered so judging droop and why is hard to see past this point of a pic taken right after watering.

When it stopped flourishing is when the roots began filling the pot. Rootbound or filling the pot does not indicate rot necessarily, it only means the roots filled the container and eventually could slow or stunt growth.

Overwatering a small container is possible of course if you water it say 2x a day...but that plant should use all the water it gets every day. That is why it would droop...either it gets watered too often or it cant get enough water overall.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Durkee13 said:
This is what I dont understand...I use that moisture meter probe...its been shoved all the way through the middle and the needle was in the red...I water it and within 5 minutes shes sagging...I thought watering was good?! This time I purposely left the plant dry for an entire day...bone dry.

Unless the moisture huddled around the stem...cause I always probe in at least 2 places and always along the perimeter of the pot and all the way to the bottom watching that meter needle. Unless it's getting too much water at a time, I dont think the soil is staying wet...christ, it surely couldn't in the 90 degree environment! Lmao.
It's been once about every 2-3 days here lately I'll water it till it trickles out the bottom based on probe readings and how long it's been since the last watering...pH water given was 6.3
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Ditch the worthless meter.
 
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ComfortCreator

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Durkee13 said:
That was taken care of based on this reply....and when doing so I checked the roots...they look good, white, not brown.

One thing I didnt do since I had just watered it, i didnt re-water the fresh soil, just packed it around the wet root ball. I did that within an hour of lights out, figured the quick switch to darkness would help the roots recover a bit...idk, I got it in my head daytime is leaf time...and lights out means root maintenance .
I also got rid of 2 opposite bottom branches that were yellowing and broken
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That is incorrect but understandable. When transplanting the idea is to merge the containers together. You want to water around the outside edge mostly then over the middle and water to slight runoff. The general idea is if the new soil is wet the roots will search out that water and expand to give themselves more water and space.

It may droop for a few more days while it adjusts but should absolutely take off. If you use more FFOF soil in the transplant you likely need very little nutes for a while still
 
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