1St time using coco, help!!

Dynablo

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Been away for a while but I have just planted some lemon skunk seeds in Century Cocogreen. My first time using coco, I just had 4 seedlings die and the other still not even got its 3 blade leaves out yet after 2 weeks, so I have planted another 5 seeds. When do I start to add nutes to the seedlings when in coco as I've read people saying they soak their coco in a weak nute solution before planting seed? It has always been my understanding that I don't add nutes till the first proper cannabis leaves show, but then I always used soil. Due to time lost trying to fix problems I am having to put them on 12/12 from seed to meet my deadline, so please troops, anyone that can help me with the proper way to start my seedlings with nutes, when I repot them if these ones don't die, I'm going back to the good old £1 shop compost, always had great results n no problems with the so called cheap shite. Any help at all be greatly appreciated
 

citeh

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You'll get differing opinions, but I've had better results pre charging my coco with a weak nute solution.
 

Resinhound

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Ive had best luck germinating seedlings in coco with a very light 100ppm (50ppm tap water)5.8 ph..Keep the coco moist in a little circle around the seedling until true leaves sprout then gradually start watering more.
 

Dynablo

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I've just checked and 3 of my seeds have started to break surface. When they have those first 2 little leave's could I water them with a very small amount of nutes without burning the tiny roots then? Usually when I use soil I don't start feeding till first 45 blade leaves show. I was also thinking of putting a tiny amount of root hormone in there to, would this be a bad idea? I added a small amount of nutes to the one seedling I have standing yesterday and it doesn't seem to have hurt it anyway. I am using universal Cocogreen and bio-bizz, I have the veg, topmax and flower bottles and have always had fantastic results, 7 Oz a plant with only a 4 week veg, so when I got told to use coco for better result I thought ad try, but it's been a sore head, thanks for that wee bit of info about adding nutes M8
 

3N1GM4

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Start at 1/4 strength and gradually increase as you note the plants reaction after feedings.
 

3N1GM4

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So far I am getting better results in coco, I'm doing a side by side with two smart pots, one coco one ffof.
 

Dynablo

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So, as soon as those first 2 leaves show it will be safe to add small amount of nutes then? Usually I'd have time to try a few things but this is gonna be a rush grow, 12/12 as soon as 1St true leaves show, so all tips are appreciated till I get my seedlings big enough and rooted enough th just put in soil and do my normal method. I keep them between 6.2 an 6.6 ph in the coco, so any problem shouldn't be from that should it?
 

Resinhound

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6.2 is the extreme upper end for PH in coco.5.5 -6.0.Thats the ph range you want to stay in.For veg try to stay around 5.5 to 5.8.Flower 5.8 to 6.0
 

Vikerus Forrest

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Currently growing in a coco mix I did myself. I can tell you right now that even if the ph is at 7 you should be fine. More important is making sure your coco has been leeched(Run a couple gallons of water through it.) It's entirely possible that salts are left over in it!

Oh and a 1/4 strength nute solution over your new sprouts won't hurt a thing. Just keep it light. I notice changes in my plants within an hour of watering. And try not to over think it, you'll do more harm then good after a while. Also what are your temps like?
 

bird mcbride

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5.8ph is the optimum range but a person would be driven nuts trying to keep it there.

So since the res swings up I start the ph at 5.5ph Up until 20 some years ago I use to start the res at 6ph until some wig came along and said,"proper ph for hydro is 5.8ph":)
 
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Dynablo

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Currently growing in a coco mix I did myself. I can tell you right now that even if the ph is at 7 you should be fine. More important is making sure your coco has been leeched(Run a couple gallons of water through it.) It's entirely possible that salts are left over in it!

Oh and a 1/4 strength nute solution over your new sprouts won't hurt a thing. Just keep it light. I notice changes in my plants within an hour of watering. And try not to over think it, you'll do more harm then good after a while. Also what are your temps like?
I gave the coco a rinse before using, though it's universal Cocogreen, they say they have treated n washed it to use straight from the bag. Best thing is, during my last grow I had a few coco bricks that I got out the £1 shop, I found a seed in some shit weed I had to buy so decided to do an experiment, putting that seed in the cheap pound coco brick gave me a healthy foot tall plant within 12days, without checking ph or flushing. I know what u mean about over thinking M8, that's when u start to tamper and make mistakes innit. My temp is sitting at 80'f and I have them on 20/4 light time till I get the first true leaves. So appart from my issues with being unsure with the nutes, my ph and temp is OK?
 

Dynablo

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5.8ph is the optimum range but a person would be driven nuts trying to keep it there.

So since the res swings up I start the ph at 5.5ph Up until 20 some years ago I use to start the res at 6ph until some wig came along and said,"proper ph for hydro is 5.8ph":)
I don't use a res, I water my plants and mix nutes with each plants water individually, I am using coco in place of the soil that I usually use as everything I've heard is good, but I think I need to have more than my normal set up if I want to use coco, with My soil all I need is my ph pen and my lemon juice to lower the ph, as I have never had to up my ph due to doing it this way and the tap water being ph7. I find it much better using the lemon juice to lower ph since its natural citrus with no chemicals to burn young roots, once they get their first true leaves then I seem to turn into an expert, for some reason I can never start my seeds the way I always did when I lived in Scotland, maybe it's our great water n minerals in Scotland as I used to use water from a stream up there and it was great!!
 

bird mcbride

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With coco it is important that you use a liquid fertilizer and liquid ph conditioners. If you don't or haven't any way to res the water shake the jug with the nutrient solution vigourisly just before you water. This will help airate the mix.
 

Vikerus Forrest

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I do my best to keep it under 78f, but 80 sounds just fine. I notice I get hot point during the day, possible surge in power I'm not sure. When that happens the lamp puts off more heat and it goes over 82f. Good luck getting it worked out. I've used cider vinegar to bring tap water down to 6.2~6.5. Worked alright.
 

THE KONASSURE

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When I get my dry block of coco I normally use a bit of plant start or root stimulator alone with some wetting agent to soak the coco in

If you don`t use plant start or some kinda rooter, then you`ll want to feed with something like that around day 4 to 10 otherwise the plant will grow really slowly, most coco`s don`t have any food in them so kinda depends on your water supply

Some people have water with some nutes in it right out the tap, other people don't or they filter or used bottled water, they have to feed sooner
 

Dynablo

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Thanks for assistance troops, if you don't mind, any suggestions on getting the best out of a 12/12 grow would be appreciated too.​
 
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