1st official attempt..CFL & Bubbleponics/DWC AF Fem Short Rider & Fem Master Kush

Hi Everyone.....

This is my first official attempt. By that I mean that I am actually trying to do it the best of my knowledge and with semi limited cash flow. Have made a half assed attempt before( random bagseed in dirt sitting under 2 flouros that happened to be hanging in basement and I wasn't the best mom to them lol) so I started to research...I have notebooks with info and notes written down even..I am trying to do this right...well atleast the best I can do....And hopefully I am sucessful...This is first journal so I am trying not to goo on and on but still giving up relevant info......

Feel free to comment or whatever....If Im rambling feel free to let me know or ask questions....Try not to bash me though...lol...its just rude and Im learning...But I am a fan of constructive criticizm.....

Im hoping this journal starts to flow but I feel I should give some base info on the set up.

BACKGROUND
I didnt have a logical place to set this up..I researched alot about dimensions of rooms, tents pros and cons, stealth cabs ect. I knew I wanted a room but no logical room to use.... Most tents were to expensive for the size they were.. I have space in basement but its a big room...not equipped for that kind of set up lol... So in my infinite wisdom...Im going to build a room...I should tell u im no master builder... or a builder at all for that matter...So I started to sketch out a design.. I was trying to take in consideration the dimensions..with the amount of plants I planned as well as the amount of light I had available...I decided on 5 1/2 ft tall (as tall as possible) 6ft long and a 3 ft wide. (in retrospect to big for current grow but I do have the option of using one side for flow/one for veg eventually, need to plan ahead). That gives me 18 Sqft. I knew I needed reflective walls so after more research....I found that panda film (like a thick plastic black on one side white on the other and pvc pipe...Not sturdy by no means but I didnt need the room to support anything and it was cheap...I used 1/2 inch pvc (would recommend thicker)..Tada a room is born.......

LIGHTS
I'm using Sunleaves t5 light currently...I have more CFLs but not hooked up yet..As they get bigger I will add more..That light is 47 x 25.

SYSTEM
I have set up 1 DWC 4 pot system
and 1 6 pot Bubbleponic sytem
both from Stealthhydro

Plan to upgrade if these work out by upgrade I mean make my own bigger ones lol.

SEEDS
I ordered seeds from Nirvana I got:

Auto flower feminized Short Rider
Feminized Master Kush


What has went down so far I germed 2 SR (SR) and 3 MK (Master Kush)#2 not looking so good. They got put in the system on 9/19/10 with no nutes. I feel they kinda small but hydro systems new to me so I am trying to be patient...Not one of my skills but with this you gotta be. They are on 24 light. And wow those lights get warm I am concerned because in my infinite wisdom I didnt expect that much heat to come from there..But this is a learning process.. But I cant put them too close to plants now and Im dealing with a bit of stretching..Also trying to regulate water temps with warm lights an issue. The lights in the pics are farther away than I keep them for picture purposes.


I will be flushing and adding first nutes at 25% tomorrow.

Here are some pics.. will be keeping more ontop of the pics and info now that journal started

Day 2


Day 5


Day 8
oh and my runt kush didnt make it
kush ones

Short rider


Well that is all for now...Will do beter updates as we go......

Thamks

MissM

Very nice setup, looks like you learned a lot. How close are your lights now and have you considered switching to HPS for flowering?

good luck.
ill be keeping tabs

Thanks valuable and I had thought about it but then I would have to definetly rethink some things in regards to available electrical sockets and temperature...So I think for this grow I am going to use cfls. And if I am successful switch to that. I am hoping for the best> And I did learn lots I was even taking notes...lol my theory was if I am going to do it do it the best I am capable of......


Thanks Eric I am going to need it...lol...dont be a stranger...I will be attempting to change the water tomorrow....Hopefully it goes smoothly as I am thinking about adding first round of nutes. Why I didnt get those drain valves for the tanks is beyaond me....Will be updating tomorrow if Im not too wet to hold the camera..LoL

Oh and as for the lights right now they are at about 6 inches...I had them closer but that light gets hotter than I anticipated....Been trying to find a happy medium...the saga continues

Miss

Well the advantage of CFLs is it might be easier beacuse you wont have to think about heat etc. Also youll really appreciate the difference in results once you do upgrade to HPS after a few CFL grows.

my thoughts exactly.......oh but now im nervous...Im trying to research a bit more on replacing the water in my tanks i touched the thermometer and it was slimy........ughhhh

Cant help you there, I grow in soil. Might want to search around or start a thread somewhere

Delay of update all my tubing slimey......researching as we speak....

What does the temp get to in your tanks? 65-68 degrees seems to be my "butter" range. I was having problems keeping my water temps under 74 degrees and I didn't want to get a chiller (limited funds). I read about using frozen gaterade bottles. So I tried some 20 oz soda bottles of frozen water. Found out that two in my res knocks my temps down to 67. I change them out when lights come on.

Silent runnings my water temps have been running high unfortunately I didnt think my T light was gonna get so warm will def start dropping that temp in there down checked this am an its like 78!!!!!yikes

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Silent runnings my water temps have been running high unfortunately I didnt think my T light was gonna get so warm will def start dropping that temp in there down checked this am an its like 78!!!!!yikes

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Yeah. That temp is a breeding ground for algae and bad bacteria. I don't see your exhaust/intake setup in the pictures and maybe I missed it in your description. The lights shouldn't be putting out too much heat. What are you doing for exhaust/intake and air movement (any fans?).

Yeah got 2 fans going had to re work a few things to deal with my new found temp, slime, and humidity issues got pics to post but lost the cord WTF. You cant see them in the pics.

Miss L

Well I know I am delayed on the updates I have ran into a whole bunch of issues. The bubbleponic system is causing me alot of problems. These have been going since 9/20/10 I expected them to be bigger....I kinda hit a wall.

I did remove the layer of styrofoam I had under the buckets.....Added an additional fan...and had an executive decision...I only have 2 babies in each system.... At this point with there size...They all got moved in to the 4 pot DWC last nite.

I changed the water for the first time last nite...That went fairly smooth... And so far the "move" has went ok....I also started them on nutes last nite....Like I dont have enough issues lol. Only 25% at this point..

My goal is to get these girls alittle bigger then they can move into there own homes..

I also have decided to do 2 Master Kush and 2 Short Rider in dirt.....Started germing today I will keep yall posted.

PIcs prior to water change and putting the girls togather



10/5/10

Check this A.M

Water Temp: 69'
Room Temp: 77'
Ph: 5.75
Humidity: 50%



This is so sad.....


MissL

Dont know anything about bubblponics, otherwise i would help you out

yeah taking it one day at a time hoping they get on track lol

its slimey because you need frozen water bottles to keep the water temps down

an light leaks you want to make sure that cover is light proof. try using reflective tape
also the sides and bottom

also make sure you have a couple airstones at least in each container because they are so large
some other things you could use is a little bit on hydrogen peroxide to keep the slimey ness at bay for now

flush first tho

goodluck

Thanks malady....finally getting my water temps down

pm bed check on these girls

everyone still alive lol.....will see come morning how they are looking


ph 5.75
water temp 72
air 79
humidity 49%

Just remember that H2O2 also kills beneficial bacteria and can cause brown slime to take off like wild fire. The frozen water bottles to drop that temp down to 66-68 range would be best. But you're going to have to do that with a fresh res change out.