1st Grow Yellowing Leaves - HELP PLEASE!!!

KushisSweet

Active Member
haha hes not saying you wont hurt your plant.. hes telling you the reason WHY nute burn happens.. (if i am wrong please say so but thats how i am looking at it) read all of his post in the thread it makes sence. you overfert the soil, which if not used turns to salts which the plant then cannot use it and causes the plant to use the nutes in its leaves thus making them brown. you can feed your plant heavy just make sure you rinse the salts out by watering with just water.. on the bottle of your nutes it says to feed your plants then water with plain water. i understand why they say this now..

read this again.....
overfeeding the medium will eventually lead to salt build up. nutrient ions do not like each other.. incompatible. too many of them floating around increases the risk of them bumping into each other and becoming unavailable to the plant, solidifying into salt... this is then an attractant to other ions and the salt builds up. locking out nutrients and so the plant must then rely on the nutrients from the leaves to support growth.. hence leaf discolouration and necrosis.

It takes a lot to over fertilize a medium. You could quite happily feed full strength from a seedling and make it to flower without having to plain water feed once.

soil usually has enough nutes to last a plant 3 weeks... your plant wants food. trust me.
 

skunkushybrid01

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i'd feed them. at least 1.0ec

i'm assuming they are approaching 3 weeks old, or somewhere around that mark. This is why the plant is calling for more nutrients.

wait till flower, that's when they really start needing the nutes. I'm mostly a clone grower, and i start my clones at 2.6ec and don't give them any plain water till the end. so they get 2.6ec for 8 weeks solid.

The nutrients you use are important too, this is because nutrients contain chelating agents to keep them separated in the bottle. A cheaper company may skimp on these agents, resulting in a less stable mix. However, water itself will also help stabilise nutrients... as the medium dries out though of course then any unused nutrients have more chance of becoming destabilised as they are more likely to bump into each other and cancel each other out.

Phosphorous will cancel out iron for example... all that means is that if there is a lot of P then there is more chance of less available iron being found by the plant roots.

A lot goes on, and plants are far more adept at taking care of themselves than we might think.
 

noxzious

Well-Known Member
overfeeding the medium will eventually lead to salt build up. nutrient ions do not like each other.. incompatible. too many of them floating around increases the risk of them bumping into each other and becoming unavailable to the plant, solidifying into salt... this is then an attractant to other ions and the salt builds up. locking out nutrients and so the plant must then rely on the nutrients from the leaves to support growth.. hence leaf discolouration and necrosis.

It takes a lot to over fertilize a medium. You could quite happily feed full strength from a seedling and make it to flower without having to plain water feed once.

soil usually has enough nutes to last a plant 3 weeks... your plant wants food. trust me.
Again, soil has enough nutrients to grow a whole plant veg to flower - Period. You practically just said mother nature cant grow weed... Anything above the norm you'll need nutes to fatten the bitch up
 

noxzious

Well-Known Member
haha hes not saying you wont hurt your plant.. hes telling you the reason WHY nute burn happens.. (if i am wrong please say so but thats how i am looking at it) read all of his post in the thread it makes sence. you overfert the soil, which if not used turns to salts which the plant then cannot use it and causes the plant to use the nutes in its leaves thus making them brown. you can feed your plant heavy just make sure you rinse the salts out by watering with just water.. on the bottle of your nutes it says to feed your plants then water with plain water. i understand why they say this now..

read this again.....

I know what hes saying, hes feeding complex theories about a plant that has a tiny bit of yellowing. It just annoys me how once upon a time it just used to grow and that was it, in the wild, if you seperated from males you'd get sensimilia. Now guys have to bring up every possible explanation for why a plant can do a certain thing but when the severity is not close the less-er treatments should be tryed first. Because you'll just go fuckin up your plant even more if you dont know exactly what is wrong with it. Nobody is a plant phychic

Imo them plants would be fine, just water when the soils dry and you'll forget about those bottom leaves in no time - Probably was the soil, if its nute burn its in your soil and we'll fade eventually(Right?)

Peace

(Nobody is a plant phychic)
 

noxzious

Well-Known Member
I get bottled water delivered to my house in 5 gallon bottles for drinking. I haven't tested it but it's dechlorinated and all that. I'm thinkin that should be good right?

I'm using FFOF soil. It's supposed to have a fixed ph of 6.3-6.8. I haven't tested my soil but that all seems pretty solid to me.
Also i vaguely remember reading bad stuff about bottled water, something about its been filtered too much and something with ions? Not sure but i did see something. Boil water and leave it in the fridge or just leave a jug of water out for a few hours to evaporate chlorine - best option tho rain water

All im saying bro is check the cheap options before you go buyin aload of N P and K

But its most probably just the nutrients in your soil are too much for a plant that big :) But it wont kill it. Let us know if the severity of the yellowing gets worse and turns dry or curly - Then we'll be talkin about pH. But seriously theres no need to worry but its good that your paranoid :)
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
Again, soil has enough nutrients to grow a whole plant veg to flower - Period. You practically just said mother nature cant grow weed... Anything above the norm you'll need nutes to fatten the bitch up
Mother nature also can't grow corn... or barley or wheat...

ha ha ha

i can't believe i'm arguing with school kids.
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
I know what hes saying, hes feeding complex theories about a plant that has a tiny bit of yellowing. It just annoys me how once upon a time it just used to grow and that was it, in the wild, if you seperated from males you'd get sensimilia. Now guys have to bring up every possible explanation for why a plant can do a certain thing but when the severity is not close the less-er treatments should be tryed first. Because you'll just go fuckin up your plant even more if you dont know exactly what is wrong with it. Nobody is a plant phychic

Imo them plants would be fine, just water when the soils dry and you'll forget about those bottom leaves in no time - Probably was the soil, if its nute burn its in your soil and we'll fade eventually(Right?)

Peace

(Nobody is a plant phychic)
Just because they are complex to you doesn't make them complex in general...

also no theory but scientific fact...

You really have no idea at all... and here you are proving it to everybody.
 

Vento

Well-Known Member
/me throws a bit of :peace: In :)

Two guys offering a helping hand ..but maybe not agreed on eachothers opinion ... kind of makes the new guys a bit jumpy :-?.... But in the end the new guy will take one or both or none of the bits of advice and learn something for himself ..so not all bad :mrgreen:


OP ... Love your plant ... relax ... let time work things out and then adjust as you see fit ..Good Luck :weed:

V :peace:
 

TheCheef

Active Member
/me throws a bit of :peace: In :)

Two guys offering a helping hand ..but maybe not agreed on eachothers opinion ... kind of makes the new guys a bit jumpy :-?.... But in the end the new guy will take one or both or none of the bits of advice and learn something for himself ..so not all bad :mrgreen:


OP ... Love your plant ... relax ... let time work things out and then adjust as you see fit ..Good Luck :weed:

V :peace:
Thanks man!! It looks like its comin back around. I havent watered her in 5 days. It looks like some of the burnt up leaves are growing back. Its almost time for a water. Tomorrow im thinkin.
 
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