1st grow noob question - cant really tell if trichromes are clear or cloudy

sadface

Active Member
If you want more info on the grow please see my journal in sig.

Plant is Afgan Kush Ryder (therefore an autoflower) the plant is only 58 days from sprout. According to Attitude its 55 days from seed to flower, yet many people claim they need more time.

I think I had some ph problems which caused P, Ca, and Mag lock out at the beggining of flowering. Which seemed to make her flower very quickly, as I have another AKR 12 days younger which isnt as far along into budding as the older one, yet the younger one is already almost double the height and width of the older one... So yes a lot of noob mistakes.

either way, I really don't know how much longer i have until harvest. I want to stop feeding about 1 to 2 weeks prior to harvest, and think I am close. So kinda want to know if I should feed next watering or start the "pre harvest flush" (please dont turn this into a debate about if you should flush or not).

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These are the older budsites

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Newer budsites that started to devlop after I fixed the PH problem.

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Trichrome shots (best I could do sorry!), I cant tell what color they are. But I cant see any Amber and so think don't think it time for harvest by any means. Just don't know how much longer.

Thank you very much!

- Face
 

sadface

Active Member
Oh sorry one additional question, I have seen the below 2 charts about trichromes

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One makes it sound like Amber trichromes are bad as they only have 10% THC while cloudy has a lot, while the other states it can be used to determine the type of smoke you want (head high or couch lock).

From my understanding this is contradictory, as I understood it THC gives the stoned/body high why CBD gave the head high. If amber trichromes have less THC wouldn't the more amber make it less potent therefore less couch lock? The only thing I can think is that I am not taking into account clear trichrome ratios, for example 40% clear, 40% cloudy, 20% amber is less potent then 60% cloudy and 30% amber and 10% clear. Since you can never get 100% cloudy since different parts of the plant mature at different time.
 

xxENOCHxx

Member
Good job! Making it this far man on your first grow ! I am only on my third :).. Great looking bud :D I would do another look over and make sure you do not have some amber lurking around on you :) she looks either ready or damn near ready to me.. but I am only on my third grow and I do wait to see just a few amber before I prefer to chop... Also my understanding regarding the trich color ratios vs high effect is this always have mostly cloudy if its in order of most to least present then cloudy,clear,amber = more energetic high (sativa style but not so much that you can change an Indica high into a sativa high..) then Cloudy,amber,clear = more of a couch lock.
 

jamezsr

Well-Known Member
its very hard to judge a bud if its ready from a pic
the more i look the more i see white hairs
as a guy harvested many times i start flushing now and i will wait till i see all the hair amber be4 i harvest
 

Anjinsan

Well-Known Member
How much amber do you want? The trichs look milk white to me...but w/o a microscope it's hard to tell.

I like milk white more than I like amber...but it IS a preference. Don't get bullied into 3 scoops of sugar in your coffee when you only want one...ya dig?

For me...and me only I suppose I like 10% clear...80% milk...10% amber. Ballpark %'s of course.
 

sadface

Active Member
Thank you all very much for your replies, all are extremely helpful

Trichrome pics were from a magnifiying app on my android, it is really hard to take pics with my loupe or scope. But it is good to know that those are cloudy! I think I like both couch and head high, so I am going to take a real close look for amber trichromes and if I can see if I can find any. Think this one I may feed all the way through harvest, and the next I will flush and see if there is a difference in the smoke. Seems like there is very large debate on if someone should not do a pre harvest flush or not, I am going to experiment since have 2 of the same strain!
 

AlabamaRedneck

New Member
Thank you all very much for your replies, all are extremely helpful

Trichrome pics were from a magnifiying app on my android, it is really hard to take pics with my loupe or scope. But it is good to know that those are cloudy! I think I like both couch and head high, so I am going to take a real close look for amber trichromes and if I can see if I can find any. Think this one I may feed all the way through harvest, and the next I will flush and see if there is a difference in the smoke. Seems like there is very large debate on if someone should not do a pre harvest flush or not, I am going to experiment since have 2 of the same strain!
Man I went through the same thing with my first 2 grows. Each day toward the end I debated whether to harvest or not. Be patient; harvest day will present itself soon.
 
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