16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Joedank

Well-Known Member
This is not a doctoral disiertaion but a great read on building your own bennies and what they do...http://www.nurserymanagementonline.com/nursery-0711-beneficial-soil-microorganisms.aspx

For all you non link clickers here's how I avoid pm and other pathogens;Commercially available beneficial bacterial strains of Bacillus and Streptomyces grow near the roots, releasing secondary metabolites that inhibit pathogen growth by causing cell membranes to become “leaky.” Some of these commercial microbes and certain native bacterial strains also act as plant-growth promoting rhizobacteria or PGPRs by improving nutrient availability to the plant and through their interactions with host plants.** Many PGPR strains of the bacteria described above have also been shown to induce systemic resistance in some plant species.


Systemic resistance that's right mutha fucka! Oh take that weak immune system due to massive growth over short periods with no attention paid to chewing your food before you swallow you get sick like that
Certain beneficial fungi grow near, on and inside root tissue. The mycoparasite, Trichoderma harzianum isolate T-22 provides several beneficial effects. It preventively controls diseases through rhizosphere competence, hyperparasitism, and competitive inhibition and antagonism. T-22 also promotes plant growth as do other Trichoderma isolates. Mycorrhizal fungi from the genus Glomus grow in and around roots of many mycorrhizal plant species to help supply host plants with insoluble phosphorus, especially in highly mineralized soils and container media. Several different mycorrhizal products are commercially available either as mycorrhizal spore preparations or formulated with fertilizers.***
 

Joedank

Well-Known Member
I am sourcing my t-22 out of Texas but I am trying to get it cheaper and better quality from Montana ! Just the trico and bac. Sub. Are enough to rock some plants socks off!
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
soooooo...... the cat's out of the bag :lol:
(this happens to me every time i try to be all cool and enigmatic about something :lol:)

i'm guessing that those of you following collective gardener's thread have pretty much surmised that a thru c group are the organic nutes he mentioned earlier tonight....

for those of you not following, herewith:

I sent you a PM regarding the Indoor Gardening Show today. We hooked up with your Buddy Simon at Grotek. Dude has mad growing knowledge. Stand by for the Grotek nutrient challenge. To the group- Grotek is coming out with a line of liquid organic nutes which will be available to public inside a year. I believe Kitty already has some (you little she-devil). This guy Simon, who's the developer of the nutrient, knows his shit. We'll be trying some out in a couple months when he gets it a little better perfected. Keep an eye on this company. He is the first nute rep I've met that cares more about plant health and vigor than just trying to get you to buy a bunch of their shit. With people like him driving the project, great things are bound to happen.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
I am sourcing my t-22 out of Texas but I am trying to get it cheaper and better quality from Montana ! Just the trico and bac. Sub. Are enough to rock some plants socks off!
the more i read about EM (effective microorganism), the more it leads me to believe that i want to use it in my tea recipe..... it's mainly lactic acid bacteria, "purple" bacteria, yeast and a few others.

[URL="http://embokashi.com/parrhigabkltCF1 on EM.pdf"]http://embokashi.com/parrhigabkltCF1 on EM.pdf[/url]

lactic acid bacteria are, well, some familiar lactic acid bacteria are the ones that make yogurt and cheese and whatnot via fermentation. they're reported to have better tolerance to lower pH's than other bacterial species. which, in turn, since bacterial action tends to raise ph and fungal action tends to lower it, would suggest to me a higher degree of co-existence with beneficial fungi.

"purple" bacteria, aka photosynthetic bacteria, are capable of photosynthesizing without an oxygen component, their byproduct is sulfur. remember our discussion on sulfur?

cg says he just uses hot compost as an inoculant, and i'm going to ask my nute guru if he can source me some trichoderma (chances are, he already has some kicking around.)
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
This is not a doctoral disiertaion but a great read on building your own bennies and what they do...http://www.nurserymanagementonline.com/nursery-0711-beneficial-soil-microorganisms.aspx

For all you non link clickers here's how I avoid pm and other pathogens;Commercially available beneficial bacterial strains of Bacillus and Streptomyces grow near the roots, releasing secondary metabolites that inhibit pathogen growth by causing cell membranes to become “leaky.” Some of these commercial microbes and certain native bacterial strains also act as plant-growth promoting rhizobacteria or PGPRs by improving nutrient availability to the plant and through their interactions with host plants.** Many PGPR strains of the bacteria described above have also been shown to induce systemic resistance in some plant species.


Systemic resistance that's right mutha fucka! Oh take that weak immune system due to massive growth over short periods with no attention paid to chewing your food before you swallow you get sick like that
Certain beneficial fungi grow near, on and inside root tissue. The mycoparasite, Trichoderma harzianum isolate T-22 provides several beneficial effects. It preventively controls diseases through rhizosphere competence, hyperparasitism, and competitive inhibition and antagonism. T-22 also promotes plant growth as do other Trichoderma isolates. Mycorrhizal fungi from the genus Glomus grow in and around roots of many mycorrhizal plant species to help supply host plants with insoluble phosphorus, especially in highly mineralized soils and container media. Several different mycorrhizal products are commercially available either as mycorrhizal spore preparations or formulated with fertilizers.***
Been using Bacillus Subtilis, Trichoderma, and Mycorrhizae in my tea for a while now, and have been loving it, makes a great PM spray and foliar feed too. And I've been putting Trichoderma and Mycorrhizae in my soil for a while now, but it wasn't until I loaded it with a massive amount of Bacillus Subitlis that I had a near screeching hault on PM of all plants put into the medium. In fact, I don't think I've seen any on the plants I put into that medium. I just mixed in some Bio Mix from Pro Mix into my Sunshine Mix #4, added a few bales of Growers Gold, and threw some ZHO of each transplant and they are bullet proof. I fucking love it.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
lol, that's not my scrog, but thanks for stopping in!
beans, whose scrog IS that?
It's by a guy SN 'Marlo' from ICMag
This is the guy's vert ScrOG thread
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=164050

This is thread I read to find the guy's ScrOG
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=189454

the more i read about EM (effective microorganism), the more it leads me to believe that i want to use it in my tea recipe..... it's mainly lactic acid bacteria, "purple" bacteria, yeast and a few others.

http://embokashi.com/parrhigabkltCF1%20on%20EM.pdf

lactic acid bacteria are, well, some familiar lactic acid bacteria are the ones that make yogurt and cheese and whatnot via fermentation. they're reported to have better tolerance to lower pH's than other bacterial species. which, in turn, since bacterial action tends to raise ph and fungal action tends to lower it, would suggest to me a higher degree of co-existence with beneficial fungi.

"purple" bacteria, aka photosynthetic bacteria, are capable of photosynthesizing without an oxygen component, their byproduct is sulfur. remember our discussion on sulfur?

cg says he just uses hot compost as an inoculant, and i'm going to ask my nute guru if he can source me some trichoderma (chances are, he already has some kicking around.)
Hey kit, can you re-post the .pdf link please. I can't find the right page or dl thingy and my comp is being stupid.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
so i cut 'er down like you said, they're doing well!!

here's another one: once the branches are well established, can i take off the little budlets that are attached to them?



 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
little miss april (stop humping the lights already, slutmuffin!)
had to move her ooot from under the t5



hail britannia:





sleezy Ceegee:



dankette is true to her name so far:





ebony (still a bit of The Claw but frosty!):





fumble (also still a bit Clawed but nicely frosting too):





control group:







 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
so. stoked.

first glance:


the pump:


the view of the inside (and mr kitty's foot):


it has a slot for the teabag that the pump pumps a steady-stream of water over. it's designed to have a couple of inches between the hose and the brewing tea so it's self aerating (vermicrop, the company that makes this extractor, also sells vermiT, which is like a square ewc/compost "puck" that fits in the slot:




mr kitty's newest toy: kel instruments soil ph meter

 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
little miss april (stop humping the lights already, slutmuffin!)
had to move her ooot from under the t5



hail britannia:





sleezy Ceegee:



dankette is true to her name so far:





ebony (still a bit of The Claw but frosty!):





fumble (also still a bit Clawed but nicely frosting too):





control group:







*sigh* And I'm still a Sad Panda... where's mine kitty? Where? *howls defiantly*
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
Also, I can't seem to find that particular pH meter anywhere. Got a link? I haven't used a pH meter in years, don't need it, but I'm curious now.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I got a question you guys, but rather than give yu0 a link to my thread I'll just ask it here

I was wondering if one of you fine folks could point me toward a strain the consistently finishes within 60 days for my short flowering needs. The strain should either be connoisseur quality (high potency-small yields) or if it's not the strongest bud in the world, it should have at least an average yield.
I was thinking some cindy99 from either Dutch Grown Seeds, Mosca or Joey Weed, but any potent, short-flowering strain would be fine.
I'm not looking for a strain that has phenos that finish short. I'd like a strain that has a reputation for short flowering and consistently finishes fast. Thanks.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
How did you test ph before the new meter? How does it compare to testing runoff?
we have a wall-hanging ph/tds meter that lives in the feed res; when we use straight soilless it doesn't matter too much, although mr kitty is paranoid ever since we got a bad batch of promix a few runs back. mostly we've just been going around putting it in pots for fun; it's self-powered (ie no batt) so i've been going around like a luddite villager going, "the devil is at work again! i need a goat to sacrifice, STET!!"

Also, I can't seem to find that particular pH meter anywhere. Got a link? I haven't used a pH meter in years, don't need it, but I'm curious now.
seems to be a small company out of nj....

http://userweb.cybernex.net/kelway/ph.html

more than likely, some hydro store or other that we know is considering carrying it, and that's why we have it.
 
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