1300 Reasons you shouldn't buy a supercloset

Discussion in 'Newbie Central' started by housefullOweed, Sep 14, 2011.

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What do you think of super closets?

  1. They are overpriced junk!

    50.0%
  2. They are reasonably priced and i would gladly purchase one!

    18.2%
  3. MEH

    31.8%
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    housefullOweed

    housefullOweed Member

    I really don't care what any one does with their money, its their choice how they grow weed and how much money they spend to do it... I am making this thread to help any one who is looking into purchasing a supercloset make a smart decision and get better equipment and yields for less money. The price to performance ratio of the system i am going to review is horrible, if you were to take the $1600 it cost to purchase this unit and figure up how many months it would take to pay for its self you would be sadly disappointed. Don't believe there sales pitches and gimmicks, superclosets are garbage for the money they cost and to prove my point I'm going to put together a list of what it would take to build one, and a list of what you could get if you spent your money wisely. Don't get me wrong here I'm not a profit Nazi i don't have a problem with people making bank off of there hard work but these guys sell absolute shit for the price they charge.

    Super locker 2.0 retail price about $1600.
    15 Reasons Everyone Grows With SuperCloset! - YouTube
    Super Closet

    I am using this system as my example because it is one of the most ridicules of all of the systems they offer, not just in price but in design & performance as well. There are a number of reasons that this system is designed poorly the first and second are the lighting and grow space, as best i can tell it looks like there is about 3 feet of vertical growing room in there. As we all know light diminishes very rapidly over distance if you take a look at this chart you will notice that the plants at the bottom would get virtually no light...
    http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x140/earlon3rd/Foot-CandlesHPSDoneNow.jpg For this reason any one growing with a set up like this would want to scrog at about 1 foot to get the best results, so your 5 1/2 foot tall grow cabinet is only actually useful for about 2 square feet of growing space. The third problem i have with this system is the ventilation, i would consider using this for a CFL grow room but for any thing more its a fire hazard and a liability of your plants. There are many times during your grow when you will need to adjust your ventilation, for example when the temperature rises in the summer, or when the humidity gets to high and mold is a risk, in those times when you most need it your ventilation wont be there... The fourth and final problem i have with these systems is the price to performance ratio, this unit cost $1600 and would produce roughly 75-150 grams every 2 months depending on the growers skill level. If you purchased the items i have listed you could build 3.75 grow cabs that would yield you in the range of 600-1200 grams every 2 months depending on the growers skill level.

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    Gimmicks: Here are just a few of the bull shit claims they use to sell there products.

    Fully automated claim
    This company throws around the term fully automated like they don't just give you a timer and call it fully automated, i don't see any thing in this system to suggest that it is fully automated... It doesn't test or adjust PH, it doesn't test TDS and augment the nutrient solution, it also doesn't adjust the ventilation based on humidity/temperature... So i guess their definition of fully automated is turning a light on and off and an air pump running constantly...

    Infra-cool steel
    infra cool steal - Google Search
    I guess I'm supposed to believe that this is going to stop FLIR from detecting my grow eh? This is as useless as tits on a bull i doubt a FLIR camera would see this thing outside in the dead of winter.

    Superponics
    Okay so they add a drip system to the DWC system and we are supposed to believe this increase the machines efficiency by 50%...

    Its all bull shit and and its all bad for ya, now on to the show...

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    Super closet shopping list

    Okay here is my list of supplies that it would take to build a system similar to the super locker v2.0, there are a few items i left out the bonuses at the end of the video, i don't consider them to be part of the grow set up or worth spending an extra $1300 for so yeah.

    The cab

    $164 Storage locker
    storage locker - Google Search

    $10-$15 Yo yo light hangers
    air pump - Google Search

    $60 150 Watt HPS, ballast, reflector, and bulb included
    storage locker - Google Search

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    DWC hydro system x2 if you want a cloning system. Deep Water Culture Explained - Hydroponic Supplies & Equipment for DWC - YouTube

    50 Gal aquarium air pump
    $15-$20 local pet store

    Aquarium air line
    $5-$10 local pet store

    Air stones
    $5 local pet store

    Rubbermaid tub of your choosing with lid
    $5 Walmart

    $5 Net pots
    storage locker - Google Search

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    Ventilation

    "Disclaimer i do not suggest under any circumstances using a plastic CPU fan to cool an HID light, i am simply listing it for recreation purposes."

    A guide on wiring CPU fans to AC power.
    http://forum.grasscity.com/do-yourself/370802-wiring-computer-fan-s-run-120v-c.html

    $5-$10 Or possibly free laying around your house 12VDC 1500mA AC Adapter
    12VDC 1500mA AC Adapter - Google zoeken

    $5-$10 80mm Or 120mm CPU fan
    80mm cpu fan - Google Search
    80mm cpu fan - Google Search

    $15-$25 DIY carbon filter: Since there are no companies out there that make carbon filters small enough to fit on CPU fans ill give you some DIY links to give you ideas on how to make a custom one to fit your needs.
    http://youtu.be/0cYb5siZ8iI
    http://youtu.be/wTaqpowXFyw
    http://youtu.be/J8JL4_pmAmo
    http://youtu.be/JzkZgQkrT40

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    Misc

    White poster board reflective material
    $5 Walmart

    $5-$10 10 Amp light timer
    Google

    Power strip
    $5 Walmart

    $5-$10 6" Fan
    Google Search

    $5-$10 PVC pipe: For making light traps for your power connections and intakes.


    $5-$10 Weather stripping: For light proofing the doors seams.

    Okay so we have our grand totals $324 for the cheapest possible pricing and $379 at the most expensive possible pricing, so for the price we pay for one unit we could build 5 1/3 units excluding tool cost or we could do the right thing for our plants and build a real fucking grow cab.

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    Building a real fucking grow cab

    So lets just say for a moment that the reason you are considering a super closet is because you are not very handy or you do not want to modify your house. Well with the money you were going to spend on a supercloset you could build a grow system that would pay for its self several times over in one grow and still not have to modify your dwelling or build any thing. I did leave a few things out of this list because i did not feel they should be included after all we are talking about a grow cab here not every thing you need to grow. If you are looking for a shopping list or a beginners guide you can check the bottom of this thread for a link to some excellent information.

    The cab

    $100 Mylar grow tent mylar grow tent - Google Search

    $10-$15 Yo yo light hangers
    air pump - Google Search

    When purchasing a grow light that does not come as a set you may need an adapter for your ballast and reflector to be compatible.

    $100 400 Watt ballast
    Google

    $45-$100 Cool tube reflector
    Google

    $10-$75 400 Watt hps bulb
    mylar grow tent - Google Search

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    DWC hydro system
    Deep Water Culture Explained - Hydroponic Supplies & Equipment for DWC - YouTube

    50 Gal aquarium air pump
    $15-$20 local pet store

    Aquarium air line
    $5-$10 local pet store

    Air stones
    $5 local pet store

    Rubbermaid tub of your choosing with lid
    $5 Walmart

    $5 Net pots
    storage locker - Google Search

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    Ventilation

    $50-$100 4 Inch centrifugal fan
    mylar grow tent - Google Search

    $50-$100 4 Inch carbon filter
    mylar grow tent - Google Search

    $20 Centrifugal fan speed controller: If you want to be able to control your fan speed.
    Google

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    Misc

    $5-$10 10 Amp light timer
    Google

    Power strip
    $5 Walmart

    Our grand total for this set up is $430 for the cheapest possible pricing and $670 for the highest possible pricing, it may be a bit more expensive but it will produce enough bud to keep you medicated between harvest unlike the prebuilt competition.

    The reason this company is so big is not because they are good at what they do, its not because they make a quality product either, its because they are good at ripping people off...

    For some more information on grow room or grow cab set up and design you can check out my shopping list/beginners guide located here.
    http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-marijuana-growing/895055-shopping-list-v2-0-a.html

    Or check out this awesome video on stealth grow cab design, and construction here.
    How To Build A Grow Box From Start to Finish Introduction - YouTube

    If this thread was helpful to you and it took some digging to find please bump the thread so that others can learn from it as well...
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    TM421

    TM421 Member

    FYI
    HousefullOweed just got kicked off of the Grasscity Forums for this post. He is getting paid to write negative stuff about SuperCloset.

    The moderators deleted his thread because of his excessive use of profanity, the fact that he had multiple user names active, and was obviously being compensated to trash talk this company. He went so far as to pretend to be someone else, created a slanderous youtube page, uploaded all of supercloset's promo videos to it, and then linked it all back to his own thread on Grasscity. I found out because he spammed my video on youtube. He is definitely being paid to speak out against this company.
    DO NOT TRUST HIS POSTS!

    If you really want to know about these cabinets, check out my video. :lol:

    [video=youtube;GIe49_b5Bvg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIe49_b5Bvg[/video]
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    squarepush3r

    squarepush3r Uncle Buck Fan Club

    who would pay him to speak out against this company?
    he advocated making your own DIY system, so it doesn't seem like hes promoting a competitor's product, therefore doubtful at this point that he is a 'paid basher'
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    Beansly

    Beansly RIU Bulldog

    I think he's just a serious unsatisfied customer.
    Frankly I don't trust either of you. 1-2 post and signed up today? Obvious.
    I've seen that locker and lmao because, yeah, I'm sure even a child could grow weed in that thing. Only someone who's too lazy to read would waste $1600 on something you could build for $100 bucks and an old locker from the junk yard.
    Just answer me this;
    What is "infra"-cool steel? and
    How does a trelis add 40% to your yeild?

    pmsl!
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    asafan69

    asafan69 Active Member

    I think they are both trolls.
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    TM421

    TM421 Member

    Funny thing is that he is not even a customer! He admittedly has never even owned one and never even seen one in person. I wish you could have seen the other thread....it was straight crazy.
    I don't need you to trust me. I have my vid....I obviously have a supercloset and I have obviously grown in it and it obviously worked really well....
    I only came over here to warn folks about him because of what he did over there. I don't give two squirts what you think about SuperCloset. DIY, tent set, whatever...as long as everyone is getting irie and enjoying the hobby.
    For the record though...I friggin' love mine. :0)
    What exactly is a troll by the way? ....and please don't say, "you are!" I seriously don't know what that is and I am curious.
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    darkdestruction420

    darkdestruction420 Well-Known Member

    i saw the price and i thought i was going to pass out. No offense but that thing is way overpriced, $1600? it better print money too.....
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    Nusky

    Nusky New Member

    why even bother with a damn tent? Just get mylar, staple it to the ceiling and drape it to the ground, do that a few times and you got a space to grow in
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    housefullOweed

    housefullOweed Member

    Sigh this guy again, he turned my last thread on grasscity into a 12 page flame throwing contest until the admins deleted it, and i didn't get kicked off grasscity i left because i didn't think my thread should have been deleted, locked maybe but not deleted, and i don't need to be paid to talk shit on supercloset i do it for free...
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    Metasynth

    Metasynth Well-Known Member

    Is this for real? Haha, so you(housefullOweed) came to Show us the Light and tell us not to buy something that most of us here on RIU wouldn't waste money on anyway...And then then you(TM421) SOMEHOW realized housefullOweed came over here to trash the supercloset, came over here, signed up and started an account, just to defend a product that most of us on RIU wouldn't bother to waste money on?

    Come on, really? Maybe stoners, but not stupid.....
    darkdestruction420 likes this.
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    TM421

    TM421 Member

    That actually sums it up pretty good.

    I didn't just realize it though. He announced it.

    His last post was, "Well the mods on this forum decided to remove my 1300 reasons you shouldn't buy a supercloset thread so i have decided this forum isn't worth my time any more...
    Im moving to rollitup.org if any one wish's to contact me you can do so there..."

    ...and I really didn't have anything to do with the flame war. Most of it was him bickering hard with this other SC customer. I only got involved cause I saw his SPAM on my youtube page.

    I guess you all didn't need fair warning, though. It seemed important when I was baked last night.
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    Metasynth

    Metasynth Well-Known Member

    Well, I dunno how things work on GrassShitty, But here on RIU we specialize in cutting though the bullshit, and keeping it focused on growing dank...But at the same time, we're a crafty bunch, and usually don't have any reason to purchase a ready-made grow cabinet...Maybe some wealthy people on here do, but I assure you, they are the minority.
    batf1nk and budfever like this.
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    Banditt

    Banditt Well-Known Member

    Dude fuck that I'm gonna buy like 5!!!!! They look awesome! :lol:
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    Xcon

    Xcon Active Member

    You can even use the bullshit as fertilizer!!! :-P
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    Banditt

    Banditt Well-Known Member

    hahaha nice!
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    tokenbrownguy

    tokenbrownguy Active Member

    Is this for real? Seriously?...no, seriously...kick the two of them outta here. Nobody here really BUYS a "ready-made-grow-room". I like to think of RIU as a cerebral group of like minded individuals. Crafty, yet appreciative of the finer items life has to offer. I don't really think anyone is very interested in this "product". Go to another site and hack your BS there. Please, feel free to come back if you have something IMPORTANT to share or ask. Have a wonderful day!
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    jcdws602

    jcdws602 Well-Known Member

    Suuuuper Cloooooooset commence!! look at the corner, is it a closet, is it a locker......no it's super locker here to rip off gullible people everywhere!!Ha Ha.....okay I'm done..........tm421 sounds like your getting paid to defend this shitty overpriced recycled high school locker....hehe....get out of here with that bull
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    housefullOweed

    housefullOweed Member

    Yeah like i said this dude turned my thread into a 12 page flame war on grasscity the dudes a sales rep and he was the one using multiple accounts to defend his precious supercloset.
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    massah

    massah Well-Known Member

    RIU be a drama free zone...you both can diaf...the one the supercloset made lawl :D
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    cutaftacut

    cutaftacut Member

    Good day. I just wanted to add my thoughts to the topic. My mind frame is this. Companies can't make products for growing cannibus. Cannnibus growers are not the majority of gardners in this country, or any country. Systems are intended for gardners. I see post about Scrogging this thing and it's hilarious enough to take me through my entire day. Movin on. It's a garbage product, like most, just trying to get money and spend as liitle as possible. Think about Stg cubes and why they never mention cannibus when marketing. As far as using it for food I guess Martha wants to keep her grandkids fooled about the stealthy grown batch of cucumbers. REDICULOUS.:spew:

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